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15:00:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TTML
15:00:39 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
15:00:39 <trackbot> Date: 11 December 2014
15:00:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
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15:03:10 <nigel> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:10 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has not yet started, nigel
15:03:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see tmichel, Frans-EBU, Zakim, RRSAgent, nigel, trackbot
15:03:20 <nigel> zakim, this is ttml
15:03:20 <Zakim> ok, nigel; that matches SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM
15:03:32 <nigel> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see pal, nigel, +41.22.717.aaaa, ??P21
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15:03:56 <nigel> zakim, aaaa is Frans
15:03:56 <Zakim> +Frans; got it
15:03:58 <tmichel> zakim, P21 is me
15:03:58 <Zakim> sorry, tmichel, I do not recognize a party named 'P21'
15:04:12 <tmichel> zakim, ??P21 is me
15:04:12 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it
15:04:32 <Zakim> + +1.408.771.aabb
15:04:49 <nigel> Present: Frans, tmichel, nigel, courtney
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15:04:58 <nigel> zakim, who is making noise?
15:05:03 <Zakim> +jdsmith
15:05:08 <Zakim> nigel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: nigel (38%)
15:05:17 <nigel> Present+ jdsmith
15:05:37 <nigel> chair: nigel
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15:06:33 <nigel> scribeNick: nigel
15:06:52 <nigel> Topic: This meeting
15:07:52 <nigel> group: no AOB to raise
15:08:28 <nigel> Present+ pal
15:08:35 <nigel> nigel: Is the TTML2 publication timeline okay?
15:09:18 <nigel> pal: I wonder if it is realistic.
15:13:39 <nigel> Topic: IMSC 1 transition to CR
15:13:51 <nigel> nigel: We have published the CR - thanks everyone!
15:14:11 <nigel> nigel: And we have send a Call for Implementations.
15:14:59 <nigel> tmichel: The latter is a message that must be sent by the Comm team as part of the W3C process.
15:15:16 <nigel> ... It went to ac-forum, which is member-restricted. We can take that message, redact it if necessary,
15:15:26 <nigel> ... and send it to anyone who might be interested in implementing the specification.
15:15:53 <nigel> tmichel: Or we can send any other message we want too.
15:16:45 <nigel> nigel: So I think we have 2 actions: 1) to work on the test suite and
15:17:00 <nigel> ... 2) to publicise that this is a good time to work on implementations.
15:17:55 <nigel> tmichel: I can draft a message and prepare a list of bodies that we could send it to, and people could
15:18:04 <nigel> ... complement the list and then we can send the message out.
15:18:54 <nigel> Action: tmichel Draft a message re IMSC 1 CR test suite and implementation and a list of bodies to send it to.
15:18:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-359 - Draft a message re imsc 1 cr test suite and implementation and a list of bodies to send it to. [on Thierry Michel - due 2014-12-18].
15:20:02 <nigel> jdsmith: Is anyone working on the test suite right now?
15:20:23 <nigel> pal: DECE has contributed all its CFF-TT test content, so we already have a good basis.
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15:20:33 <Zakim> +Plh
15:20:38 <nigel> ... My first plan is to translate them into IMSC 1 test cases e.g. by translating namespace values.
15:20:47 <nigel> Regrets: andreas, mdolan
15:21:03 <nigel> Present+ plh
15:21:27 <nigel> jdsmith: I can contribute by doing a gap analysis comparing the current test suite to IMSC 1 CR
15:22:29 <nigel> Frans: you can send me issues for EBU to tackle, e.g. EBU-TT-D features that are in IMSC 1.
15:23:38 <nigel> Topic: Action items
15:24:13 <nigel> action-354?
15:24:13 <trackbot> action-354 -- Mike Dolan to Investigate formal contact at arib -- due 2014-11-27 -- CLOSED
15:24:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/354
15:25:25 <nigel> nigel: Mike did identify someone in ARIB and sent a liaison request note.
15:25:38 <nigel> plh: These group to group liaisons are managed at a group level.
15:25:47 <nigel> http://www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison.html
15:26:07 <nigel> plh: We will need to update that page for the liaison, so we'll need two names, one for each organisation.
15:26:14 <nigel> ... And that's pretty much it.
15:27:30 <nigel> plh: It's an action on the chair to send the letter, but I or Thierry can assist.
15:27:44 <nigel> Action: nigel Send liaison request on behalf of W3C TTWG to ARIB
15:27:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-360 - Send liaison request on behalf of w3c ttwg to arib [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-12-18].
15:27:58 <nigel> Action: plh Update liaisons table to include ARIB
15:27:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-361 - Update liaisons table to include arib [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2014-12-18].
15:28:12 <nigel> close action-354
15:28:12 <trackbot> Closed action-354.
15:28:52 <nigel> Topic: Issues
15:29:16 <nigel> issue-358?
15:29:16 <trackbot> issue-358 -- Add identifier support for related ordered sequences of documents -- raised
15:29:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/358
15:29:17 <nigel> reopen issue-358
15:29:17 <trackbot> Re-opened issue-358.
15:29:42 <nigel> issue-10?
15:29:42 <trackbot> issue-10 -- Allowing pointers to pre-rendered audio forms of elements -- pending review
15:29:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/10
15:31:54 <nigel> close issue-10
15:31:54 <trackbot> Closed issue-10.
15:31:59 <nigel> issue-230?
15:32:00 <trackbot> issue-230 -- Forced display -- pending review
15:32:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/230
15:32:21 <nigel> close issue-230
15:32:21 <trackbot> Closed issue-230.
15:32:26 <nigel> issue-238?
15:32:26 <trackbot> issue-238 -- smpte:backgroundImage -- pending review
15:32:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/238
15:33:12 <nigel> close issue-238
15:33:13 <trackbot> Closed issue-238.
15:33:16 <nigel> issue-239?
15:33:16 <trackbot> issue-239 -- smpte:backgroundImageHorizontal -- pending review
15:33:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/239
15:33:48 <nigel> issue-240?
15:33:48 <trackbot> issue-240 -- smpte:backgroundImageVertical -- pending review
15:33:48 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/240
15:33:56 <nigel> close issue-239
15:33:56 <trackbot> Closed issue-239.
15:33:59 <nigel> close issue-240
15:33:59 <trackbot> Closed issue-240.
15:34:06 <nigel> issue-241?
15:34:06 <trackbot> issue-241 -- smpte:data (inline binary data) -- pending review
15:34:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/241
15:34:48 <nigel> close issue-241
15:34:48 <trackbot> Closed issue-241.
15:34:54 <nigel> issue-242?
15:34:54 <trackbot> issue-242 -- smpte:image (inline image data) -- pending review
15:34:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/242
15:35:32 <nigel> close issue-242
15:35:32 <trackbot> Closed issue-242.
15:35:38 <nigel> issue-244?
15:35:38 <trackbot> issue-244 -- m608:channel -- pending review
15:35:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/244
15:37:25 <nigel> nigel: On the reflector Andreas has signalled that all the issues solved with ttm:item need further
15:37:36 <nigel> ... consideration because they can't be validated using XML Schema 1.1.
15:38:57 <nigel> nigel: Glenn isn't here to respond to the comment, and neither is Andreas.
15:39:13 <nigel> Frans: As we're aware that more discussion is needed we could keep these open until resolved.
15:40:35 <nigel> nigel: We'll skip down past the ttm:item related issues...
15:40:38 <nigel> issue-273?
15:40:38 <trackbot> issue-273 -- Map fontFamily to external font file resources -- pending review
15:40:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/273
15:43:01 <nigel> nigel: It's hard to pull out the specific change on the Mercurial diff for this issue, plus it seems to be
15:43:15 <nigel> ... incomplete since there are editorial notes outstanding that are needed for full understanding of
15:43:17 <nigel> ... this solution.
15:43:29 <nigel> issue-287?
15:43:29 <trackbot> issue-287 -- Generic ability to tunnel BASE64 encoded binary files for legacy support -- pending review
15:43:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/287
15:44:04 <nigel> close issue-287
15:44:04 <trackbot> Closed issue-287.
15:44:09 <nigel> issue-289?
15:44:09 <trackbot> issue-289 -- For TTML created for overlay on top of video, signal the aspect ratio of the video the TTML was created for -- pending review
15:44:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/289
15:44:34 <nigel> nigel: this is another ttm:item one, so leaving open.
15:45:20 <nigel> nigel: The remaining issues are all dependent on ttm:item, which needs to be closed off.
15:46:02 <nigel> Topic: Change Proposals
15:46:23 <nigel> nigel: We just closed Issue-230, which was the only dependency for CP16
15:46:30 <nigel> ... so I'll close CP16.
15:46:53 <nigel> nigel: Looking at CP18...
15:47:11 <nigel> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal018
15:48:02 <nigel> nigel: We closed issue-238, 239, 240, 242 and 287 so we can close this change proposal.
15:48:08 <nigel> ... which I'll do.
15:48:57 <nigel> nigel: I'll take the highlighting off Change Proposal 8 and 23 too, while I'm editing the index page.
15:49:12 <nigel> Topic: Note on TTML versions
15:49:21 <nigel> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html
15:50:36 <nigel> nigel: It'd be useful for everyone to look at this and propose any edits - note that it's a product on the tracker
15:50:42 <nigel> ... so you can raise issues against it.
15:51:36 <Zakim> -Frans
15:51:38 <Zakim> -pal
15:51:38 <Zakim> - +1.408.771.aabb
15:51:39 <Zakim> -Plh
15:51:41 <Zakim> -nigel
15:51:42 <Zakim> -jdsmith
15:51:54 <tmichel> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:51:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html tmichel
15:52:11 <nigel> nigel: Thanks everyone - we've completed our agenda. We meet for the last time in 2014 for 1 hour next week.
15:52:15 <nigel> ... [adjourns meeting]
15:52:20 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:52:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html nigel
16:01:27 <Zakim> -tmichel
16:01:29 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
16:01:29 <Zakim> Attendees were pal, nigel, +41.22.717.aaaa, Frans, tmichel, +1.408.771.aabb, jdsmith, Plh
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16:02:18 <nigel> s/wonder if it is realistic./wonder how long the whole Rec track process will take for TTML2.
16:02:22 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:02:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html nigel
16:03:02 <nigel> ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics
16:03:03 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:03:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html nigel
16:03:21 <nigel> s/end a Call/ent a Call
16:03:22 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:03:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/11-tt-minutes.html nigel
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