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13:59:21 <kaz> zakim, this will be tv
13:59:21 <Zakim> ok, kaz; I see UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
13:59:27 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
13:59:27 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
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13:59:30 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
14:00:04 <Zakim> + +1.650.580.aaaa
14:00:24 <Zakim> + +47.23.69.aabb
14:00:26 <kaz> zakim, aaaa is paul
14:00:26 <Zakim> +paul; got it
14:00:56 <Zakim> +??P14
14:00:58 <ddavis> zakim, ??P14 is me
14:00:58 <Zakim> +ddavis; got it
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14:01:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:40 <kaz> zakim, aabb is giuseppep
14:01:40 <Zakim> +giuseppep; got it
14:01:49 <kaz> zakim, IPcaller is yosuke
14:01:49 <Zakim> +yosuke; got it
14:01:54 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:01:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki, paul, giuseppep, ddavis, yosuke
14:01:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bin_Hu, RRSAgent, Zakim, ddavis, kaz, yosuke, jcverdie, MarkS, sangwhan_, tobie, timeless, schuki, trackbot
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14:02:16 <kaz> zakim, giuseppep is giuseppe
14:02:17 <Zakim> +giuseppe; got it
14:02:40 <Zakim> + +1.650.946.aacc
14:02:54 <Bin_Hu> zakim, aacc is me
14:02:54 <Zakim> +Bin_Hu; got it
14:03:11 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:03:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki, paul, giuseppe, ddavis, yosuke, Bin_Hu
14:03:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see giuseppe, Bin_Hu, RRSAgent, Zakim, ddavis, kaz, yosuke, jcverdie, MarkS, sangwhan_, tobie, timeless, schuki, trackbot
14:03:48 <ddavis> zakim, mute me
14:03:49 <Zakim> ddavis should now be muted
14:04:23 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:04:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki, paul, giuseppe, ddavis (muted), yosuke, Bin_Hu
14:04:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see giuseppe, Bin_Hu, RRSAgent, Zakim, ddavis, kaz, yosuke, jcverdie, MarkS, sangwhan_, tobie, timeless, schuki, trackbot
14:04:25 <Zakim> + +1.818.370.aadd
14:05:16 <kaz> zakim, aadd is glen
14:05:16 <Zakim> +glen; got it
14:05:53 <kaz> zakim, glen is glenn
14:05:53 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
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14:06:39 <kaz> zakim, glenn is Gdeen
14:06:39 <Zakim> +Gdeen; got it
14:06:51 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:06:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki, paul, giuseppe, ddavis (muted), yosuke, Bin_Hu, Gdeen
14:06:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see Gdeen, giuseppe, Bin_Hu, RRSAgent, Zakim, ddavis, kaz, yosuke, jcverdie, MarkS, sangwhan_, tobie, timeless, schuki, trackbot
14:08:12 <kaz> zakim, pick up the victim?
14:08:12 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, kaz.
14:08:19 <giuseppe> zakim, pick a victim
14:08:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kazuyuki
14:08:44 <kaz> topic: GGIE TF
14:08:55 <kaz> yosuke: would finalize the GGIE TF Charter
14:09:05 <yosuke> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF
14:10:12 <kaz> Gdeen: GGiE looks for glass to glass end-to-end ecosystem for digital video
14:10:34 <kaz> ... would identify features
14:10:53 <kaz> ... better scalability, user identification, privacy, etc.
14:11:04 <kaz> ... global/international use cases
14:12:30 <kaz> ... would generate a report by TPAC 2015 in Sapporo
14:12:40 <kaz> ... tight schedule
14:13:13 <kaz> ... questions?
14:13:34 <kaz> (nothing)
14:13:44 <kaz> Gdeen: bi-weekly telcos
14:13:51 <kaz> ... at least one f2f meeting
14:14:19 <kaz> ... prioritizing use cases
14:15:18 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Basic_Information_of_the_Task_Force.27s_work Basic information of the  task force
14:15:24 <kaz> Gdeen: make sense?
14:15:27 <kaz> yosuke: yes
14:15:29 <Zakim> -giuseppe
14:15:30 <kaz> giuseppe: yes
14:15:42 <kaz> Gdeen: success criteria
14:16:17 <Zakim> +giuseppe
14:16:28 <kaz> ... requirements documents to each of the responsible SDOs
14:16:41 <kaz> ... there will be an IETF meeting in Yokohama in 2015
14:17:12 <kaz> ... request for participants to contribute
14:17:24 <kaz> ... two months to prioritize use cases
14:17:36 <kaz> ... what are important ones
14:17:49 <kaz> ... third/fourth month we could have a f2f meeting
14:18:02 <kaz> ... march or april
14:18:22 <kaz> giuseppe: let's say "1st Q"
14:18:45 <kaz> Gdeen: IETF meeting in Dallas in March
14:18:54 <kaz> ... we'll see
14:18:58 <giuseppe> kaz, I never said 1Q :)
14:19:11 <giuseppe> I said let's wait for the first call of the group
14:19:40 <kaz> s/let's say "1st Q"/let's wait for the first call/
14:20:16 <yosuke> [JFYI: HTML WG is planning to have "mini TPAC" in Paris around the AC meeting. This may be a good timing for the IG to have an f2f meeting.]
14:21:12 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Timeline timeline
14:22:46 <kaz> Gdeen: collaborate with related SDOs
14:23:53 <kaz> ... ATSC, CEA, HbbTV, IETF, IPTV Forum Japan, MPEG, Smart TV Alliance, SMPTE
14:24:22 <kaz> giuseppe: no dependency on the documents?
14:25:11 <kaz> Gdeen: can obtain recommendations based on IETF's discussion, etc.
14:25:33 <kaz> Gdeen: Communication
14:25:46 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Communication Communication section
14:26:04 <kaz> Gdeen: use TF identifier "[GGIE]"
14:26:16 <kaz> ... moderator will be probably me, Glenn Deen
14:27:13 <kaz> ... telco slot
14:27:23 <yosuke> http://doodle.com/mkaneessdt35ubgkz6f44s99/admin#table
14:28:09 <kaz> giuseppe: midnight in Europe
14:28:50 <kaz> yosuke: doodle poll above
14:29:11 <kaz> ... 10am Eastern
14:29:14 <kaz> giuseppe: not aware of that poll...
14:29:23 <kaz> ... would extend the deadline for one more week
14:29:26 <kaz> Gdeen: ok
14:29:43 <kaz> giuseppe: would add additional candidate slots
14:30:05 <kaz> Gdeen: one week fit better for Japan, another week fit better for Europe
14:30:41 <kaz> giuseppe: we can talk about the alternative slots option at the first call
14:31:04 <kaz> ... let's find the best time first
14:31:29 <Zakim> -giuseppe
14:31:56 <Zakim> +giuseppe
14:32:03 <kaz> yosuke: if we want to involve JP stakeholders, earlier slot would be better
14:32:28 <kaz> ... but if we have later slot, would not be fatal
14:33:14 <kaz> Gdeen: if people complain, we can add some more candidate slots
14:33:52 <kaz> yosuke: managing alternative slots would be complicated
14:34:24 <kaz> ... having a midnight call would be better that that
14:34:31 <kaz> s/that that/than that/
14:34:44 <kaz> (giuseppe broke up)
14:35:10 <giuseppe> I was just asking if we still need the poll
14:35:26 <kaz> Gdeen: we have 5 candidate slots now
14:35:34 <giuseppe> sounds good
14:35:41 <kaz> ... would get wider participation in the poll
14:35:52 <kaz> s/... would/Gdeen: would/
14:35:58 <kaz> ... I'm fine with Wednesday
14:36:27 <kaz> ... 8am pacific time
14:37:13 <giuseppe> I was saying
14:37:18 <giuseppe> we can add an extra day if we want to
14:37:23 <giuseppe> like wednesday and thursday
14:38:34 <kaz> Gdeen: advertise this poll and extend the deadline till next Monday
14:39:14 <kaz> ... first call I'd propose is 7 Jan.
14:39:14 <giuseppe> there is CES that week
14:39:25 <giuseppe> lets' start from the week of 12th
14:39:30 <kaz> Gdeen: make sense?
14:39:39 <kaz> giuseppe: there will be CES that week
14:39:54 <kaz> ... better to start the week of Jan 12th
14:40:03 <kaz> Gdeen: 14th Jan. would be perfect
14:40:31 <kaz> Gdeen: poll deadline Dec. 22
14:40:44 <kaz> giuseeppe: ok
14:40:53 <kaz> s/giuseeppe:/giuseppe:/
14:41:13 <kaz> Gdeen: participation
14:41:30 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF#Participation participation section
14:41:47 <kaz> giuseppe: ML is public, but telcos should be restricted to the W3C Members
14:41:50 <kaz> Gdeen: ok
14:42:08 <kaz> giuseppe: anyone can read the minutes
14:42:23 <kaz> Gdeen: anything else?
14:42:56 <kaz> giuseppe: do you have any skelton work to start with?
14:43:21 <kaz> Gdeen: request for participation
14:43:31 <kaz> ... will generate skelton by the first call
14:43:48 <kaz> s/skelton/skeleton/g
14:43:59 <kaz> Gdeen: let me think about that
14:44:06 <kaz> giuseppe: ok
14:44:21 <kaz> Gdeen: tx
14:44:39 <kaz> yosuke: so the TF charter has been finalized now
14:45:18 <kaz> ... you'll be the moderator for the TF mailing list
14:45:33 <kaz> topic: second round use cases
14:45:54 <kaz> yosuke: regarding synchronization with Mike Smith and PLH
14:46:30 <kaz> ... Media Control API needs improvement
14:46:42 <kaz> ... with interoperability
14:46:57 <kaz> ... asking stakeholders about how they could contribute testing work for that
14:47:10 <Zakim> -giuseppe
14:47:22 <kaz> ... also trying to involve them to W3C work
14:47:27 <kaz> ... on the IG ML
14:47:28 <Zakim> +giuseppe
14:47:34 <kaz> ... questions?
14:47:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:47:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:47:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/10-webtv-minutes.html kaz
14:47:59 <kaz> yosuke: Bin, any update from the TV Control API CG?
14:48:12 <kaz> Bin: had a call a few weeks ago
14:48:20 <kaz> ... compare existing APIs
14:48:24 <kaz> ... Mozilla, etc.
14:48:30 <kaz> ... Mozilla would make contribution
14:48:40 <kaz> ... gap analysis is ongoing
14:49:11 <kaz> ... working with Mozilla
14:49:18 <kaz> ... Shawn is nominated as one of the editor
14:49:29 <ddavis> s/Shawn/Sean Lin/
14:49:41 <giuseppe> nothing from my side
14:49:53 <kaz> yosuke: anything else for today?
14:49:55 <kaz> (nothing)
14:49:59 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
14:50:13 <Zakim> -paul
14:50:14 <kaz> i/any update/topic: TV Control API CG/
14:50:14 <Zakim> -Gdeen
14:50:16 <Zakim> -Bin_Hu
14:50:18 <Zakim> -yosuke
14:50:23 <Zakim> -giuseppe
14:50:25 <Zakim> -ddavis
14:50:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:50:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/10-webtv-minutes.html kaz
14:50:34 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
14:50:35 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM has ended
14:50:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Kazuyuki, +1.650.580.aaaa, +47.23.69.aabb, paul, ddavis, yosuke, giuseppe, +1.650.946.aacc, Bin_Hu, +1.818.370.aadd, Gdeen
14:50:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:50:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/10-webtv-minutes.html kaz
14:50:54 <kaz> Chair: Yosuke
14:51:14 <kaz> Present: Kaz, Paul, Daniel, Yosuke, Giuseppe, Bin, Glen
14:51:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:51:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/10-webtv-minutes.html kaz
14:51:37 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG call
14:51:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:51:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/10-webtv-minutes.html kaz
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