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19:56:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
19:56:07 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
19:56:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
19:56:08 <trackbot> Date: 25 November 2014
19:56:14 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM has now started
19:56:21 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
19:56:28 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:28 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
19:56:36 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:36 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:43 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:52 <clown> agenda: this
19:56:59 <clown> agenda+ ISSUE-568:  (All) need actions for mappings or aria-modal for all AAPIs.
19:57:04 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current.
19:57:10 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1529/ISSUE-587: (Joseph) Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current.
19:57:15 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current.
19:57:22 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435:  (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text".
19:57:27 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435:  (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text".
19:57:38 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1532/ISSUE-435:  (Joseph) investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text".
19:57:43 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1104: (Cynthia) Define the UIA mapping for aria-describedby when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies.
19:57:49 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1445/ISSUE-661: (Cynthia) Investigate ideal mapping for role presentation in tables and lists.
19:57:55 <clown> agenda+ Continue with ACTIONs/ISSUEs for core-aam 1.1:  https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23
19:58:03 <clown> agenda+ be done.
19:58:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
19:59:10 <Zakim> +Joanmarie_Diggs
19:59:25 <joanie> Zakim, I am Joanmarie_Diggs
19:59:25 <Zakim> ok, joanie, I now associate you with Joanmarie_Diggs
20:00:24 <Zakim> +Bryan_Garaventa
20:01:45 <Zakim> -Joanmarie_Diggs
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20:02:33 <bgaraventa1979> zakim, I am Bryan_Garaventa
20:02:33 <Zakim> ok, bgaraventa1979, I now associate you with Bryan_Garaventa
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20:03:48 <Zakim> +Joanmarie_Diggs
20:03:57 <Zakim> + +1.416.848.aaaa
20:04:14 <davidb> Zakim, aaaa is David_Bolter
20:04:14 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
20:04:17 <Zakim> -Joanmarie_Diggs
20:11:01 <clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#text
20:12:58 <davidb> looks good
20:14:42 <clown> scribenick: bgaraventa1979
20:15:27 <bgaraventa1979> zakim, take up item 1
20:15:27 <Zakim> agendum 1. "ISSUE-568:  (All) need actions for mappings or aria-modal for all AAPIs." taken up [from clown]
20:15:34 <clown> issue-568?
20:15:34 <trackbot> issue-568 -- Introduce system modal attributes for dialogs -- open
20:15:34 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/568
20:15:52 <Zakim> +Joanmarie_Diggs
20:16:42 <joanie> scribenick: joanie
20:17:03 <joanie> JS: The spec already has aria-modal in it.
20:17:03 <clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-modal
20:17:12 <joanie> JS: Here it is (above)
20:17:30 <joanie> JS: We need mappings for them. There are currently no actions. I'd like to assign them.
20:17:42 <joanie> JS: One for David for IA2, one for Joanie for ATK, etc.
20:17:47 <joanie> JS: Is that ok?
20:17:56 <joanie> All: Yes.
20:18:46 <joanie> DB: It will be more than mapping.
20:18:52 <joanie> JS: What else would it be?
20:19:16 <joanie> DB: I guess... I bet James is wondering if it will disallow user action outside the modal dialog.
20:19:24 <joanie> JS: [Reads definition]
20:19:44 <joanie> s/James/James Craig/
20:20:10 <joanie> DB: We should try to scope ARIA so that it has clearly defined boundaries.
20:20:25 <joanie> DB: My thinking is that I would not change accessibility stuff.
20:20:47 <joanie> DB: So if someone put aria-modal on something, I'd want them to have already handled making it functionally modal.
20:21:02 <joanie> JS: It was my assumption that authors would have created a modal user experience.
20:21:13 <joanie> DB: As we've discovered over the years, we need to be explicity about that.
20:21:35 <joanie> JS: [Reads more text]
20:22:13 <clown> action:  David Bolter to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for IA2 and/or MSAA.
20:22:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1538 - Bolter to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for ia2 and/or msaa. [on David Bolter - due 2014-12-02].
20:22:15 <joanie> JS: So HTML has an inert attribute so they (authors) should mark the rest of the document inert. Though it's not required.
20:22:18 <joanie> DB: Ok.
20:22:41 <clown> action:  Joanie to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for ATK/AT-SPI
20:22:41 <clown> 
20:22:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1539 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for atk/at-spi [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2014-12-02].
20:22:51 <joanie> action-1539
20:22:51 <trackbot> action-1539 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for atk/at-spi -- due 2014-12-02 -- OPEN
20:22:51 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1539
20:23:07 <clown> action: Cythia to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for UIA.
20:23:07 <clown> 
20:23:07 <trackbot> Error finding 'Cythia'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
20:23:24 <clown> action: Cynthia to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for UIA.
20:23:24 <clown> 
20:23:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1540 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for uia. [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2014-12-02].
20:24:23 <clown> action:  James Craig to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for AXAPI.
20:24:23 <trackbot> 'James' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jcraig, jhawkins2, jnurthen).
20:24:25 <joanie> JS: Warning, because this is already in the spec, I'm going to propose something soon if no one else does.
20:24:36 <joanie> JS: I think David was the only one who replied (to my email)
20:24:39 <joanie> DB: Sounds right.
20:24:39 <clown> action:  jcraig to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for AXAPI.
20:24:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1541 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for axapi. [on James Craig - due 2014-12-02].
20:25:16 <joanie> JD: I just did my action and transfered it to you (Joseph)
20:25:34 <joanie> JS: I think there is already an IA2 one.
20:25:42 <joanie> JS: [Looks for email on mailing list]
20:26:08 <clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Nov/0077.html
20:26:25 <joanie> JS: There it is [reads from above email]
20:26:54 <joanie> JS: I stand corrected, nobody replied to me.
20:27:25 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:27:25 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:27:40 <clown> action-1528?
20:27:40 <trackbot> action-1528 -- Alexander Surkov to Bolter to investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:27:40 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1528
20:27:47 <joanie> JS: aria-current is not in the spec yet.
20:28:03 <joanie> JS: This is about the MSAA mapping for aria-current.
20:28:14 <joanie> JS: Since it's not in the spec yet, there's no rush on this.
20:28:32 <joanie> DB: I filed a bug about this earlier today.
20:28:41 <clown> s/the MSAA mapping for aria-current/the MSAA-IA2 mapping for aria-current/
20:28:52 <joanie> DB: We were talking about it a few days ago.
20:29:04 <joanie> DB: Whatever ATK does, we'll do in IA2.
20:29:16 <joanie> JS: ATK is doing STATE_ACTIVE.
20:29:28 <joanie> DB: We filed the bug and CCed James Teh.
20:29:46 <joanie> JS: But there's still discussion on the mailing list regarding this versus selected versus focused.
20:30:10 <joanie> JD: [Points out that Dominic suggested aria-active]
20:30:41 <joanie> DB: Question, what if the user changes the browser tabs. Should we attempt to put focus there?
20:30:44 <joanie> JS: No.
20:31:01 <joanie> JS: When they come back, they should go back to where they were before.
20:31:06 <joanie> BG: That makes sense to me.
20:31:13 <joanie> DB: I just asked because it would be a handy thing.
20:31:30 <clown> http://idrc.ocad.ca/index.php/research-and-development/ongoing-projects
20:31:59 <joanie> JS: I actually found that our own website [link above]. If you look on the left, there's a table of contents on the left. It's not a tree view; it's just a list of links.
20:32:17 <joanie> JS: [Describes blue arrow showing current item in contents]
20:32:21 <joanie> JS: That's aria-current
20:32:29 <joanie> DB: When does it matter wrt the screen reader?
20:32:41 <joanie> JS: "Screen reader, tell me what's current?"
20:33:04 <joanie> BG: It shouldn't be anything complicated. When you're arrowing or tabbing through it. The screen reader should speak what's current.
20:33:17 <joanie> JS: Would you want a gesture for "what's current?"
20:33:32 <joanie> BG: You could do that, but you don't have to.
20:33:36 <joanie> DB: That makes sense to me.
20:34:03 <joanie> JS: Also, if you're on the main page and there's a next button that takes you to something else, making the current change, I think you should get an event.
20:34:12 <joanie> JS: And you will in a proper implementation of ATK.
20:34:16 <joanie> BG: Sounds good to me.
20:34:25 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 5
20:34:25 <Zakim> agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435:  (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:34:36 <clown> action-1531?
20:34:36 <trackbot> action-1531 -- David Bolter to Bolter to investigate ia2 mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:34:36 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1531
20:35:49 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 2
20:35:49 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:36:03 <joanie> DB: aria-active could be confused for aria-activedescendant
20:36:21 <joanie> JS: And I take it you're warning that the name aria-active might not be a good one.
20:36:24 <joanie> DB: Maybe
20:36:56 <joanie> DB: I also think the aria-current idea in my head is overlapping with aria-activedescendant
20:37:07 <joanie> DB: But I understand they are different
20:37:13 <joanie> JS: aria-activedescendant is about focus.
20:37:19 <joanie> JS: aria-current is not about focus.
20:37:38 <joanie> [group makes fun of the scribe]
20:37:44 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 5
20:37:44 <Zakim> agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435:  (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:38:19 <joanie> DB: The main thing for me is Alex has to be ok with whatever we have planned.
20:38:33 <joanie> action-1531
20:38:33 <trackbot> action-1531 -- David Bolter to Bolter to investigate ia2 mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:38:33 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1531
20:39:04 <joanie> DB: So where is the group? What do you want from me.
20:39:17 <joanie> JS: ATK/AT-SPI2 has a new role: ROLE_STATIC.
20:39:24 <joanie> JS: They even created the documentation for it.
20:40:07 <clown> https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html
20:40:28 <davidb> https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html#AtkRole
20:41:33 <joanie> DB: This seems to mirror the spec text well, at least not contradict it.
20:41:40 <joanie> DB: What do we have in IA2 currently?
20:42:07 <joanie> DB: This should ... Alex had a stronger opinion on this than I did.
20:42:31 <joanie> DB: I can say the spec text looks good and the ATK text looks good, but I cannot give you an answer for IA2 today.
20:43:02 <joanie> [DB departs]
20:43:04 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
20:43:12 <joanie> JS: I'll mark it as TBD in the spec.
20:43:18 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 3
20:43:18 <Zakim> agendum 3. "ACTION-1529/ISSUE-587: (Joseph) Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:43:23 <clown> action-1529
20:43:23 <trackbot> action-1529 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:43:23 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1529
20:43:30 <joanie> JS: I think I'm ready to go on this.
20:43:49 <joanie> JS: Yes, I'm ready to write everything that needs to be. I just haven't done it yet. I'll do it sometime this week.
20:44:02 <joanie> BG: I'll catch up on that.
20:44:08 <joanie> JS: There's a lot of notes.
20:44:23 <joanie> JS: Oh this is for aria-current. I guess I should wait until the spec text is there.
20:44:39 <joanie> JS: Usually the mapping points back to the spec where the property is defined.
20:44:56 <joanie> JS: So I may wait until the next heartbeat.
20:45:10 <joanie> BG: Does it matter if it's called aria-current or aria-active?
20:45:29 <joanie> JS: I would have said 'no' until David mentioned the potential confusion with activedescendant.
20:45:40 <joanie> JS: We're trying to make it easy for the author.
20:45:58 <joanie> [Jokes about Matt's aria-youarehere]
20:46:10 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:46:10 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:46:21 <joanie> Zakim, close item 2
20:46:21 <Zakim> agendum 2, ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current., closed
20:46:23 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:46:24 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:46:24 <Zakim> 4. ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current. [from clown]
20:46:24 <Zakim> agendum 4. "ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:46:33 <clown> action-1527
20:46:33 <trackbot> action-1527 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN
20:46:33 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1527
20:46:41 <joanie> JS: We'll check the action to see if she made any notes. But she's not here.
20:46:56 <joanie> JS: She says in her latest note [reads].
20:47:16 <joanie> JS: My vote is get something like aria-current added to UIA.
20:47:28 <joanie> BG: That's my vote. I never liked the idea of them being the same thing.
20:48:23 <joanie> The text from action-1527 under discussion is: "selectionitem pattern can't be used on images. It looks like there is not a good mapping to UIA for this. Now the question is whether to update both ARIA and UIA to allow selection on any role/control type, or to try to get something like aria-current added to uia."
20:48:42 <joanie> JS: I guess we'll address this when she's back.
20:48:49 <joanie> JS: Thank you Cynthia for adding that note.
20:48:53 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:48:53 <Zakim> agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435:  (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:49:03 <joanie> Zakim, close item 5
20:49:03 <Zakim> agendum 5, ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435:  (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"., closed
20:49:05 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:49:06 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:49:06 <Zakim> 6. ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435:  (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text". [from clown]
20:49:06 <Zakim> agendum 6. "ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435:  (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:49:13 <clown> action-1530?
20:49:13 <trackbot> action-1530 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate uia mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:49:13 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1530
20:49:21 <joanie> JS: [Looks for note for this action]
20:49:36 <clown> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee671651%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
20:49:52 <joanie> Cynthia's note on action-1530 is: "The best mapping would be the Text control type. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee671651(v=vs.85).aspx
20:49:55 <joanie> However, I the inheritance model of the text role described in the draft makes me very uncomfortable. I think it will be used in error and remove a lot of semantics and behavior from children.
20:50:05 <joanie> (end of quote)
20:50:19 <joanie> JS: That sounds right, but there's a "However".
20:50:34 <joanie> JS: It has events too.
20:50:55 <joanie> JS: That does make me a little.... I wouldn't expect something that has role="text" to spawn any events.
20:51:02 <joanie> JS: Is offscreen an event?
20:51:08 <joanie> BG: I guess.
20:51:27 <joanie> JS: It's a property. If it moves offscreen... text can move/scroll offscreen.
20:51:37 <joanie> JS: I guess I need to talk to her to see what this means.
20:51:46 <joanie> BG: That could be useful.
20:51:55 <joanie> JS: I'm not planning on adding any events for role="text"
20:52:06 <joanie> JS: So wait until she gets back. I think that's a topic for the Monday group.
20:52:15 <joanie> BG: Sounds good to me.
20:52:57 <joanie> JS: I'll just do the role mapping part for now; nothing new to the events table.
20:53:33 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:53:33 <Zakim> agendum 7. "ACTION-1532/ISSUE-435:  (Joseph) investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:53:39 <clown> action-1532?
20:53:40 <trackbot> action-1532 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:53:40 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1532
20:54:02 <joanie> JS: I think that's going to be nothing more than... I know what I need to do here. Yes.
20:54:22 <joanie> JS: I have the mappings for ATK/AT-SPI2 and will use that.
20:55:00 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:55:00 <Zakim> agendum 8. "ACTION-1104: (Cynthia) Define the UIA mapping for aria-describedby when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies."
20:55:03 <Zakim> ... taken up [from clown]
20:55:10 <clown> action-1104?
20:55:10 <trackbot> action-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:55:11 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
20:55:14 <joanie> JS: Another Cynthia one. Is there a note?
20:55:24 <joanie> JS: No.
20:55:43 <joanie> JS: This is the one where when you use aria-describedby with UIA it actually creates a pointer to the description.
20:55:59 <joanie> JS: If the description has CSS display:none, it's not in the accessibility tree and there's nothing to point to.
20:56:12 <joanie> JS: Everyone else just grabs the string so there's no need for pointers.
20:56:29 <joanie> JS: So there's been this question since 2012 about how do you handle this in UIA.
20:56:50 <joanie> JS: At one point, Cynthia suggested fallback to legacy description, but then stated that is not really the right thing to do.
20:57:19 <joanie> BG: Unless and until something does get added, there's nothing else available.
20:57:32 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:57:32 <Zakim> agendum 9. "ACTION-1445/ISSUE-661: (Cynthia) Investigate ideal mapping for role presentation in tables and lists." taken up [from clown]
20:57:37 <clown> action-1445?
20:57:37 <trackbot> action-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:57:37 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
20:57:50 <joanie> JS: No note on action-1445
20:58:08 <joanie> JS: I don't think I'll get how to handle role="presentation" for tables and lists into the mapping guide.
20:58:18 <joanie> JS: But I'll think about it. There might be something general I can say.
20:58:40 <joanie> JS: I know we have this resolved for ATK and I think IA2.
20:59:24 <clown> scribnick:  clown
21:00:07 <clown> JD:  I created a bug against FF that said to map, say, a gridcell with role presentation to the same thing as a div.
21:00:25 <clown> JD:  But, they recently closed that bug, and maybe something similar was done with IA2.
21:00:31 <clown> JD:  <looks up bug>
21:00:54 <clown> JD:  My point is it may have been resolved for IA2 as well.
21:01:05 <joanie> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013584
21:01:19 <joanie> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/38f5bfa0e2f7
21:04:34 <clown> s/scribnick:  clown/scribenic:  clown/
21:05:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
21:05:56 <joanie> ACTION: Joanie to verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the ATK role to Joseph.
21:05:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1542 - Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph. [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2014-12-02].
21:06:11 <joanie> s/scribnick/scribenick/
21:06:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
21:06:24 <joanie> scribenick: joanie
21:07:40 <joanie> Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly
21:09:58 <joanie> Zakim, part
21:09:58 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Joseph_Scheuhammer, Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa, +1.416.848.aaaa, David_Bolter
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21:13:28 <joanie> RRSAgent, stop
21:17:42 <joanie> s/scribnick/scribenick/g
21:17:46 <joanie> RRSAgent, make minutes
21:17:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html joanie
21:18:35 <joanie> RRSAgent, stop