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13:29:12 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp
13:29:12 <Zakim> ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 31 minutes
13:29:21 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aabb
14:00:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:00:57 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:00:57 <Zakim> +phila; got it
14:01:40 <phila> zakim, who is here?
14:01:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.609.557.aaaa, +1.510.384.aabb, phila
14:01:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see Eric_Kauz, newton, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, Caroline_, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
14:02:07 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aaaa is me
14:02:08 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
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14:02:41 <newton> o/
14:02:48 <phila> regrets: Lewis, Hadley
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14:03:14 <Zakim> +Caroline
14:03:37 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aacc
14:03:50 <ericstephan> zakim, +1.509 is me
14:03:50 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
14:04:22 <Zakim> + +1.516.944.aadd
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14:04:28 <annette_g> Zakim, aabb is me
14:04:28 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it
14:04:34 <phila> zakim, who is here?
14:04:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, annette_g, phila, Caroline, ericstephan, +1.516.944.aadd
14:04:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see MakxDekkers, laufer, adler1, ericstephan, annette_g, Eric_Kauz, newton, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, Caroline_, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot
14:04:37 <adler1> zakim, aadd is me
14:04:38 <Zakim> +adler1; got it
14:05:19 <phila> chair: yaso
14:05:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:05:35 <yaso> Dialing, Phil
14:05:36 <laufer> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:05:36 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
14:06:39 <laufer> Zakim, mute me
14:06:39 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
14:07:03 <phila> zakim, pick a victim
14:07:03 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Caroline
14:07:17 <phila> chair: Steve
14:07:25 <Caroline_> I might have to leave early,  so I am sorry to say I cannot scribe today
14:07:25 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141121
14:07:34 <phila> zakim, pick another victim
14:07:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick another victim', phila
14:07:39 <phila> zakim, pick a victim
14:07:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose annette_g
14:07:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:08:00 <yaso> Zakim, IPcaller is yaso
14:08:00 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
14:08:03 <yaso> Hi all
14:08:09 <phila> steve: Do we have a quorum for a call today?
14:08:49 <phila> Steve: Some of the folk here are calling remotely, it's difficult to haver a proper call today
14:09:02 <phila> yaso: I'm in a bar so it's hard but there are a lot of issues
14:09:15 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open
14:10:21 <phila> scribe: phila
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14:10:34 <adler1> propose: approve meeting minutes from last week?
14:10:35 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-14 last week’s minutes
14:10:50 <laufer> \me proposed
14:10:57 <phila> PROPOPSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-14 last week’s minutes
14:10:58 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is talking?
14:11:07 <ericstephan> +0
14:11:07 <Caroline_> +1
14:11:08 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: phila (55%), adler1 (59%), yaso (24%)
14:11:10 <yaso> +1
14:11:10 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:11:11 <adler1> +1
14:11:15 <laufer> +1
14:11:17 <phila> +1
14:11:19 <newton> +1
14:11:21 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-14 last week’s minutes
14:11:27 <Caroline_> zakim, mute yaso
14:11:27 <Zakim> yaso should now be muted
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14:12:41 <phila> issue-52?
14:12:41 <trackbot> issue-52 -- We keep having confusion around our terms. (glossary?) -- open
14:12:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/52
14:13:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:13:40 <ericstephan> Is there a burning desire for anyone on the call to discuss a particular issue?
14:13:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me
14:13:41 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:13:43 <yaso> i+q
14:13:45 <Caroline_> zakim, unmute yaso
14:13:45 <Zakim> yaso should no longer be muted
14:13:46 <yaso> sorry
14:13:47 <yaso> q+
14:13:47 <phila> Steve: Looking at the issues, we have a lot, but I;m not sure we have enough of the right people to have a meaningful discussion
14:14:23 <phila> Steve: We're having a hard time having a call.
14:14:25 <phila> ack yaso
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14:14:45 <phila> yaso: I was going to say that we can talk about the Best Practices timeline, maybe
14:14:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:14:55 <phila> ... Newton was asking about this
14:15:06 <phila> ... so maybe we can talk about that
14:15:12 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:15:12 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it
14:15:17 <phila> ... when are we going to deliver the FPWD of the BP doc
14:15:21 <phila> .... and how can we work with the contributors
14:15:35 <phila> adler1: We can but Bernadette isn't here
14:15:41 <phila> yaso: Newton and Croline are here
14:15:44 <phila> ... and they are also editors
14:15:56 <phila> adler1: Newton. Caroline - do you have any comments?
14:16:00 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
14:16:11 <Caroline_> q+
14:16:19 <adler1> ack caroline
14:16:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:16:29 <phila> Caroline_: What we did was to propose a table...
14:16:33 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:16:34 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it
14:16:43 <newton> Today I sent an email asking about the FPWD BP doc deadline
14:16:49 <phila> ... I think Newton was asking about the deadline for the BP FPWD
14:16:58 <phila> ... so what is the deadline?
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14:17:08 <phila> adler1: So you're not ready to propose a deadline yet?
14:17:20 <phila> Caroline_: We asked the chairs what is the deadline?
14:17:27 <phila> ... then we can make a proposal
14:17:33 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
14:17:36 <yaso> Yes
14:17:41 <yaso> Tks Adler :-)
14:18:01 <Caroline_> q+
14:18:26 <phila> adler1: I have a question for our Brazilian friends - have you managed to think about our f2f meeting in Brazil next year
14:18:55 <phila> Caroline_: I sent a note during TPAC. See https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Choosing_the_venue_for_a_F2F_2015_hosted_by_NIC.br
14:19:23 <phila> ... there are 2 options. One during IGF in September, but that means no f2f at TPAC
14:19:39 <phila> ... alternative might be Sao Palo in April
14:19:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:19:57 <phila> Caroline_: There was a suggestion for a table so people can fill in what they would do
14:20:10 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:20:10 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
14:20:22 <phila> phila: The link is in the IRC already, Caroline_
14:20:41 <phila> phila: TPAC 2015 is last week in October in Toky
14:20:59 <phila> adler1: I'd prefer that we have on emeeting a year not mixed with other conferences
14:21:17 <phila> ... when you combine, it's more tiring for particiaption as it's 2 events at once
14:21:37 <newton> s/on emeeting/one meeting
14:21:46 <phila> ... make value proposition higher, yes, but speaking personally... I go to so many conferences... I'd rather have a separate meeting
14:21:47 <yaso> maybe It’s better to do it “tradicionally”, at TPAC
14:21:56 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to adler1
14:22:01 <phila> ... it's higher value for me to particiapte in a focused way
14:22:05 <annette_g> +1 to adler1
14:22:08 <phila> ... I wouldn't attend an IGC meeting anyway
14:22:11 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> we need focus
14:22:23 <phila> s/IGC/IGF/
14:22:44 <phila> Caroline_: If we go to IGF, we wouldn't host a f2f. It's one or the other
14:22:47 <Caroline_> this is the table fot the participants choose where they could go to F2F in Brazil http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Choosing_the_venue_for_a_F2F_2015_hosted_by_NIC.br
14:23:10 <phila> adler1: If you need some help organisationally, I'd be happy to help
14:23:27 <phila> Caroline_: One meeting will be in Brazil. it's up to the chairs to decide where the other one will be
14:25:11 <yaso> q+
14:25:17 <phila> phila: TPAC is encouraged but not mandatory
14:25:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it's a great place, but I'd prefer São Paulo - because it's more convenient to get to
14:25:39 <phila> adler1: I;m now looking at a map of Joao Pesso - that's a beautiful spot. But it might be hard to get to
14:26:08 <newton> s/I;m/I'm
14:26:10 <phila> s/I;m/I'm/g
14:26:23 <yaso> q?
14:26:30 <phila> Caroline_: For me it's easy eitehr way, here in the office in Sao Palo or there in Jaoa Pesso
14:26:34 <newton> s/Joao Pesso/Joao Pessoa/g
14:26:39 <phila> q- Caroline_
14:27:05 <yaso> q+
14:28:16 <phila> yaso: It's not about the beach, it's because CGI (our employer) is sponsoring the IGF meeting. They are also our sponsor for the f2f meeting if we have it in SP
14:28:37 <phila> ... so it doesn't really matter to us. But it would be easier if it were at Joaoa Pessoa
14:28:56 <phila> adler1: I guess we need to ask members to put forward proposals for meeting locations and times next year
14:29:01 <yaso> +1
14:29:05 <newton> s/Joaoa/João/g
14:29:22 <phila> adler1: Ideally we have 2 meetings next year. One in Brazil, one elsehwre
14:29:33 <phila> phila: We have half an offer from the university in Amsterdam
14:29:42 <Caroline_> q+
14:29:47 <yaso> q-
14:29:53 <phila> adler1: So we need proposals and i'm volunteering to help with that
14:29:57 <phila> ack Caroline_
14:30:11 <phila> Caroline_: I think it would help if people filled in the table we have
14:30:14 <Caroline_> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Choosing_the_venue_for_a_F2F_2015_hosted_by_NIC.br
14:30:29 <phila> Caroline_: If epopel can fill that in it would help
14:30:39 <phila> s/epopel/people/
14:30:43 <phila> adler1: OK, yes
14:30:50 <newton> s/elsehwre/elsewhere/g
14:31:10 <phila> adler1: My own POV - if the choice is Joaoa Pessoa or Tokyo - Brazil wins. Esp in November
14:31:50 <phila> Caroline_: The choice is really Joao Pessoa or Sao Paulo. Hadley is saying TPAC is worth trying to get to
14:32:26 <newton> s/Joaoa/Joao/g
14:34:04 <yaso> +1 to hadley
14:34:27 <yaso> +1 to Phil
14:34:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:34:32 <yaso> Tpac and Sao paulo
14:34:33 <yaso> is good
14:34:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> to São Paulo + TPAC
14:35:37 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> let's have people fill in https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Choosing_the_venue_for_a_F2F_2015_hosted_by_NIC.br at least
14:35:47 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> to know people's preferences
14:36:03 <phila> General discussion continues around this
14:36:31 <phila> Some support for São Paulo + TPAC
14:36:42 <phila> adler1: So we should vote as Caroline_ has suggested
14:36:49 <phila> ... that's an action for everyone
14:36:57 <phila> +1 to Steve
14:37:03 <Caroline_> +1
14:37:07 <yaso> +1
14:37:16 <ericstephan> +1
14:37:21 <phila> adler1: If it's going to be in April - it takes a lot of work to prepare so we should decide this soon
14:37:27 <phila> ... so that CGI can prepare
14:37:39 <phila> adler1: Do we have nay otehr issues to discuss today
14:37:50 <yaso> No! For me were done
14:37:53 <phila> adler1: Anything else that we can discuss meaningfully today?
14:38:04 <Caroline_> I am sorry but I have to leave
14:38:07 <Caroline_> thank you! Bye
14:38:08 <phila> adler1: the I propsoe we end here
14:38:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> bye
14:38:19 <ericstephan> thanks Steve!
14:38:20 <Zakim> -Caroline
14:38:22 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:38:24 <yaso> Bye all!
14:38:28 <ericstephan> You too Steve
14:38:29 <CarlosIglesias> short one, have a nice weekend!
14:38:29 <yaso> newton: hahhaa
14:38:30 <annette_g> bye
14:38:31 <phila> adler1: Thanks everyone.
14:38:34 <laufer> bye all, nice wkd
14:38:36 <Zakim> -annette_g
14:38:37 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
14:38:37 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
14:38:39 <Zakim> -phila
14:38:39 <Zakim> -adler1
14:38:41 <Zakim> -ericstephan
14:38:45 <Zakim> -laufer
14:40:48 <Zakim> -yaso
14:40:49 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
14:40:49 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.609.557.aaaa, +1.510.384.aabb, phila, Eric_Kauz, Caroline, +1.509.554.aacc, ericstephan, +1.516.944.aadd, annette_g, adler1, laufer, yaso, JoaoPauloAlmeida,
14:40:49 <Zakim> ... MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias
14:42:20 <phila> regrets: Antoine, Nathalia, Adriano César, BernadetteLoscio, RiccardoAlbertoni, Ghislain, Flavio, Hadley
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