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16:59:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:59:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
16:59:21 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:21 <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2014
16:59:29 <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
16:59:29 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:59:37 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
16:59:37 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
16:59:57 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
17:00:04 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:00:14 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
17:00:14 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:00:31 <Titi_Alone> how does it work?
17:00:32 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
17:02:04 <paulc> Thanks, ShaneM
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17:02:53 <Zakim> +ShaneM
17:03:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:03:30 <ShaneM> ScribeNick: ShaneM
17:03:33 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
17:03:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:03:51 <LJWatson> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:03:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
17:04:05 <ShaneM> Chair: paulc
17:04:08 <gregDavis> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
17:04:08 <Zakim> +gregDavis; got it
17:04:26 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items
17:04:27 <LJWatson> zakim, [IPcaller] is LJWatson
17:04:27 <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
17:06:52 <ShaneM> ACTION-249?
17:06:52 <trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN
17:06:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
17:07:14 <Zakim> +??P0
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17:07:27 <ShaneM> In Progress - we need an updated due date.  Paul will work to get that.
17:07:31 <ShaneM> ACTION-250?
17:07:31 <trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Paul Cotton to Prepare cfc concerning moving dom4 to the new process -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:07:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/250
17:07:37 <paulc> Since DOM4 is currently in Last Call, I don't think this CfC is required.
17:07:41 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
17:07:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, LJWatson, gregDavis, ??P0
17:07:54 <janina> zakim, ??P0 is me
17:07:54 <Zakim> +janina; got it
17:08:08 <janina> 
17:08:12 <ShaneM> The discussion at the f2f about moving to the new process was not relevant.  The document is current in last call.
17:08:43 <ShaneM> ... the CfC was to take it straight to PR.  We don't need the new process because we were not in CR.
17:09:16 <ShaneM> ... we can still potentially skip CR and go to PR assuming the tests work and we can demonstrate interoperability.
17:09:22 <ShaneM> ... will report on this to the mailing list.
17:09:24 <ShaneM> ACTION-251?
17:09:24 <trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Paul Cotton to Contact public identifiers and form http extension proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the specs -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:09:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/251
17:09:41 <paulc> Re: public identifiers and form http extension
17:10:09 <ShaneM> There are two threads on this on the mailing list.  Starting at messages 38 and 39 respectively.
17:10:11 <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0038.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0039.html
17:10:38 <ShaneM> One of the proponents is withdrawing the public identifier extension spec.   Figuring out how to proceed.
17:10:40 <ShaneM> ACTION-252?
17:10:40 <trackbot> ACTION-252 -- Paul Cotton to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:10:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
17:10:53 <ShaneM> In progress.
17:11:05 <ShaneM> ACTION-253?
17:11:05 <trackbot> ACTION-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:11:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
17:11:24 <ShaneM> Status unknown.
17:11:38 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Decisions this week
17:11:44 <ShaneM> a) WG Decision: Request transition of Image Description Extension (longdesc) to Proposed Recommendation
17:11:51 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0025.html
17:12:22 <ShaneM> transition request has been sent to the director.  Waiting to schedule a meeting.  Unclear if it will happen before the Thanksgiving break.
17:12:28 <ShaneM> b) WG Decision: CfC: publish HTML5 Differences from HTML4 document as a WG Note
17:12:34 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0026.html
17:12:46 <Zakim> +??P8
17:12:51 <tantek> zakim, ??p8 is me
17:12:51 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
17:12:54 <tantek> zakim, mute me
17:12:54 <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
17:13:06 <ShaneM> Should be published early next week.
17:13:14 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items Closing this week
17:13:16 <ShaneM> None.
17:13:20 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
17:13:36 <ShaneM> a) Accessibility Task Force
17:13:51 <ShaneM> JS: looking at additional issues to take up in next round of HTML development.
17:14:26 <ShaneM> ... discussed accesskey today.  other topics coming up are from digital publishing and testing communities.  use cases and requirements are expected.
17:14:45 <ShaneM> ... will have things in hand in time for a Paris meeting should there be one.
17:15:18 <ShaneM> ... Also got comments on the MAUG document from the EO group.  Media subteam will start meeting again on Monday to process EOs comments.
17:15:28 <ShaneM> ... and other public comments we received after last heartbeat.
17:15:45 <ShaneM> b) Media Task Force
17:16:05 <ShaneM> F2F minutes show that we spent most of Friday morning on EME and MSE.
17:16:18 <ShaneM> ... lots of action items raised.  We are working through those actions.
17:16:37 <ShaneM> ... 3 or 4 of the most substantial bug comments on EME came from the TAG about privacy and security issues.
17:17:03 <ShaneM> ... 4 or 5 additional bugs filed.  Henri Sivonen followed up with some concrete proposals.
17:17:27 <ShaneM> ... before F2F we were at 20 bugs.  Now we are at 30.  not as bad as it sounds, since some have proposed solutions.
17:17:58 <ShaneM> Group is trying to work out its scheduling for the remainder of the year.
17:18:24 <ShaneM> A volunteer came forth at the F2F who will help with MSE testing.  Trying to help get that person up to speed.
17:18:43 <ShaneM> c) Canvas Task Force
17:19:13 <ShaneM> PC: Mark Sadeki has file a couple of bugs that describe material that is missing from the CR.
17:19:29 <ShaneM> ... discussion about how to make the changes.  Task Force continues developing tests and collecting results.
17:19:58 <ShaneM> ... Additional action out of the F2F is to figure out how to move Canvas to the new process, since it is already in CR.
17:20:18 <tantek> +1 on switching Canvas Level 1 to new process (LCCR)
17:20:56 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
17:21:03 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-html-wg-minutes.html#item52
17:21:03 <ShaneM> a) HTML WG F2F, Spring 2015
17:21:15 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014OctDec/0328.html
17:21:43 <ShaneM> PC: Working with Telecom University in Paris.  Looking at the week after the AC meeting in Paris.
17:21:56 <ShaneM> ... up in the air until we get sponsor commitments.
17:21:58 <tantek> q
17:22:26 <tantek> q+
17:22:37 <ShaneM> ... TPAC at the end of next year is in Japan.  Having a meeting in Europe seems like a reasonable pattern since we were in China and then in the US.
17:23:15 <tantek> Zakim, unmute me
17:23:15 <Zakim> tantek should no longer be muted
17:23:39 <ShaneM> tantek: A prefer end of April before the AC/AB meeting rather than after the meeting.
17:24:25 <ShaneM> PC: May 1 is a holiday in France - that has an effect on the decision.
17:25:13 <ShaneM> ... also academic institutions might have more space for us during their breaks, which might also be why after was being considered.
17:25:37 <ShaneM> ... but I will take your position to the group.
17:25:42 <ShaneM> tantek: has anyone started a doodle?
17:26:12 <ShaneM> PC: No - we wait until we have a firm location so that people have a more concrete thing to vote upon.
17:26:40 <ShaneM> ... we are doing it one step at a time.  Once we declare a meeting other groups tend to attach themselves to our "train" so we need to take that into consideration as well.
17:27:24 <ShaneM> ... but we will go to the working groups with some sort of poll or survey once we have a good idea of the location and potential schedule.
17:27:30 <paulc> ;<)
17:27:39 <tantek> zakim, mute me
17:27:39 <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
17:28:00 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Next Meeting
17:28:09 <ShaneM> Sam will chair the next meeting.
17:28:17 <ShaneM> No scribe volunteers.
17:28:28 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
17:28:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
17:28:46 <tantek> bye!
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17:28:48 <Zakim> -janina
17:28:49 <Zakim> -gregDavis
17:28:51 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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17:29:19 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
17:29:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc
17:29:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see LJWatson, Zakim, RRSAgent, Titi_Alone, paulc, tantek, ShaneM, SteveF_, wooglae, MarkS, anssik, danbri, mjs, MikeSmith, [Beta], nicolasbadia, rniwa, jgraham, Philip,
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17:29:28 <ShaneM> zakim, drop paulc
17:29:28 <Zakim> paulc is being disconnected
17:29:30 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:29:30 <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, ShaneM, gregDavis, LJWatson, janina, tantek
17:29:43 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
17:29:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
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