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20:21:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
20:21:01 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM scheduled to start in 39 minutes
20:21:02 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
20:21:02 <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2014
20:21:24 <janina> agenda?
20:21:29 <janina> Chair:  Janina_Sajka
20:21:29 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
20:21:29 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Planning http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
20:21:29 <janina> agenda+ Checkin with Web Apps' Editing TF [See below]
20:21:29 <janina> agenda+ Clipboard API http://www.w3.org/standards/history/clipboard-apis
20:21:32 <janina> agenda+ Editor's Report
20:21:34 <janina> agenda+ Requirements & Use Cases Progress
20:21:37 <janina> agenda+ Testing Conversation; Polyfills
20:21:39 <janina> agenda+ User Context Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/3
20:21:42 <janina> agenda+ Events Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2
20:21:45 <janina> agenda+  Other Business
20:21:48 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
20:57:19 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has now started
20:57:26 <Zakim> +??P0
20:57:31 <janina>  zakim, ??P0 is me
20:57:31 <Zakim> +janina; got it
20:57:32 <Zakim> +Jason_White
20:57:51 <janina> zakim, next item
20:57:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
20:58:41 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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21:00:54 <Ryladog> trackbot, start telcon
21:00:56 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
21:00:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
21:00:58 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM already started
21:00:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
21:00:59 <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2014
21:01:07 <Zakim> +??P3
21:01:41 <kurosawa> Zakim, +??P3 is me
21:01:41 <Zakim> sorry, kurosawa, I do not recognize a party named '+??P3'
21:01:46 <kurosawa> Zakim, ??P3 is me
21:01:46 <Zakim> +kurosawa; got it
21:02:33 <Zakim> +??P4
21:02:44 <Ryladog> zakim, this will be WAI_Indie
21:02:44 <Zakim> ok, Ryladog, I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM already started
21:02:57 <Ryladog> Scribe: Katie Haritos-Shea  (zakim-name and/or real full name)
21:03:10 <Ryladog> ScribeNick: Ryladog
21:03:30 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:03:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Jason_White, Katie_Haritos-Shea, kurosawa, Michael_Cooper (muted)
21:03:37 <Ryladog> zakim, next item
21:03:37 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TPAC Planning http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/" taken up [from janina]
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21:04:17 <MichaelC> ack me
21:04:22 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
21:04:22 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
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21:04:37 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
21:04:50 <Ryladog> JW: I am currently at Educational Testing Service ETS
21:04:57 <janina> janina has joined #indie-ui
21:05:01 <benjamp> Zakim, [Microsoft] is me
21:05:01 <Zakim> +benjamp; got it
21:05:10 <Ryladog> JW: They are  a W3C Member Organization
21:05:11 <MichaelC> ack me
21:06:03 <Ryladog> JS: Welcome to Ben from Editing TF
21:06:17 <Ryladog> zakim, next item
21:06:17 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TPAC Planning http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/" taken up [from janina]
21:07:02 <Ryladog> JS: It is extremely sparse. My expectation will be a 2 day work session
21:07:12 <MichaelC> ack me
21:07:51 <Ryladog> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC
21:08:20 <Ryladog> Scribe: Katie Haritos-Shea
21:08:41 <Ryladog> JS: We have a couple of docs to work on. We will meet with Ben's TF
21:08:53 <MichaelC> ack me
21:09:20 <Ryladog> JS: Michael when will you be able to join us and not be at WCAG
21:09:42 <Ryladog> MC: UI do expect to have overlapping WCAG and EOWG agenda items
21:10:00 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2014
21:10:19 <Ryladog> s/UI/I
21:11:00 <Ryladog> JS: Requirements Document and the User Context module are the two documents we will need to work on
21:12:00 <Ryladog> JW: for the Events Document we will want to talk about complex widgets that have complex graphis or visual other event type. This effects SLIDERS so I think we need to work on and has the most outstanding problem
21:12:34 <Ryladog> JW: Several did not want to implement 1.0 without that thing in Event being fixed
21:12:43 <Ryladog> zakim, next item
21:12:43 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Checkin with Web Apps' Editing TF" taken up [from See below]
21:13:22 <Ryladog> Ben: What do you think you will do at the Meeting on Monday at TPAC?
21:13:34 <Ryladog> JS: Yes several of us will be there
21:14:58 <Ryladog> Ben: I am working on a demo of (Intensions Explainer) intention events it is really simple right now. We need to understand how web developers
21:15:29 <Ryladog> Ben: Google wants to implement some intention events for Chrome
21:16:01 <Ryladog> Ben: Demo is a genera; intention event demo - before and after - much like IndieUI is trying to do/solve
21:16:30 <Ryladog> JW: Device Independent select intention events
21:16:49 <Ryladog> Ben: Yes. To clarify it is text selection
21:17:01 <Ryladog> JW: Before input?
21:17:22 <Ryladog> Ben: That is in DOM 3 - we are working with them. We just filed a bug on that spec
21:17:51 <Ryladog> Ben; Any time before their is input events..
21:17:59 <Ryladog> JW: Multilingual?
21:18:18 <Ryladog> Ben: You select text it will say we are going to bold this text
21:19:09 <Ryladog> Ben: I encourage all to read this and comment Intensions Explainer
21:19:20 <Ryladog> JS: Fabulous
21:19:27 <benjamp> http://w3c.github.io/editing-explainer/commands-explainer.html
21:20:11 <Ryladog> zakim, next item
21:20:11 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Clipboard API http://www.w3.org/standards/history/clipboard-apis" taken up [from janina]
21:20:37 <Ryladog> Ben: It is another type of intension - but is that is make a little differently
21:20:53 <Ryladog> JS: It did not look like the usual W3C format
21:21:31 <Ryladog> Ben: We are considering. For context, it has a lot of direct manipulation of the Clipboard - and a lot of Copy and Paste
21:22:22 <Ryladog> Katie: Is that a Security/Provacy concern?
21:23:00 <Ryladog> Ben: It depends on which browser - the user has to allow it through some security
21:23:06 <Ryladog>  zakim, next item
21:23:06 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Editor's Report" taken up [from janina]
21:23:19 <Ryladog> JW: Have you seen any commits?
21:23:35 <Ryladog> JS: Michael can you look?
21:23:45 <Ryladog> MC: His last commit was 21 days ago
21:23:57 <Ryladog> JW: No significant updates since last time
21:24:27 <Ryladog> JS: They have not actually moved and as you know it is  a bif adjustment
21:24:39 <Ryladog> s/bif/bit
21:24:44 <Ryladog> zakim, next item
21:24:44 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Requirements & Use Cases Progress" taken up [from janina]
21:25:31 <Ryladog> JS: It will be that at TPAC we will be working and work with Bens Group. The User Context 1.0 is a proprity
21:26:13 <Ryladog> JS: I am looking forward to being at TPAC and seeing everyone. Very sorry you cant be there Jason
21:26:36 <Ryladog> Ben: I will send your group a demo - very much a draft
21:27:06 <Ryladog> JS; Great - thank you so much, this will get WebApps a clue
21:27:21 <Zakim> -janina
21:27:26 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:27:28 <Zakim> -kurosawa
21:27:29 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:27:29 <Zakim> -benjamp
21:27:31 <Zakim> -Jason_White
21:27:32 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has ended
21:27:32 <Zakim> Attendees were janina, Jason_White, Katie_Haritos-Shea, kurosawa, Michael_Cooper, benjamp
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21:30:36 <Ryladog> zakim, bye
21:31:08 <Ryladog> rrsagent, draft minutes
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