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14:59:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:59:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
14:59:02 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:59:03 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
14:59:03 <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
14:59:22 <paulc> zakim, list conferences
14:59:22 <Zakim> I see WAI_MATF()11:00AM, MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM, Team_(digpub)14:29Z, SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM active
14:59:24 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are Team_Global(review)8:00AM, XML_XSLWG()11:00AM, WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, Team_(er)14:00Z, Math_IG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM,
14:59:24 <Zakim> ... I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM, DIG_weekly()10:00AM, UW_DAP()10:00AM, XML_QueryWG(XSLT)11:00AM
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16:00:31 <paulc_> trackbot, start meeting
16:00:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:00:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:00:35 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start now
16:00:36 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:00:36 <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
16:00:50 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
16:00:53 <paulc_> zakim, what is the meeting code?
16:00:53 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc_.
16:00:57 <Zakim> +??P3
16:01:03 <janina> zakim, ??P3 is me
16:01:03 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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16:01:16 <Zakim> +Sam
16:01:23 <paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0001.html
16:01:42 <Zakim> +Plh
16:01:44 <Zakim> +ShaneM
16:01:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:02:02 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:15 <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:02:15 <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
16:02:27 <paulc_> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Sam, ShaneM, Plh, [IPcaller], paulc_
16:02:32 <gregDavis> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
16:02:33 <Zakim> +gregDavis; got it
16:03:03 <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM
16:03:18 <paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0001.html
16:03:29 <paulc_> Scribenick: ShaneM
16:03:40 <paulc_> Chair: paulc_
16:04:26 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action items due today
16:04:27 <ShaneM> none
16:04:37 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items closing this week
16:04:53 <ShaneM> none
16:05:00 <ShaneM> TOPIC: New Calls this week
16:05:11 <ShaneM> a) CfC: Request transition of DOM4 to Proposed Recommendation
16:05:13 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Oct/0013.html
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16:05:29 <paulc_> See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0000.html
16:05:54 <ShaneM> plh: Boris noted that some of the statements in the spec dont match reality.  Flagged two.
16:06:10 <ShaneM> ... should probably do a deeper analysis of the tests that are failing on all the implementations.
16:06:23 <ShaneM> ... the first one he caught is a clear item where the spec needs to change.
16:06:42 <ShaneM> ... 103 tests are failing.  Mostly related to WebIDL.  Are going to need time for further investigation.
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16:06:54 <ShaneM> PC: Has a bug been filed?
16:07:06 <ShaneM> PLH: I don't know - Robin has been working on it.
16:07:20 <ShaneM> PC:  When we get to the end of the CfC we are going to need that data to report back to the group.
16:07:40 <ShaneM> TOPIC:  Draft [URL] reference update to informative text
16:07:43 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0002.html
16:08:01 <ShaneM> A few responses.  Caused a couple of changes to the proposed text.
16:08:13 <paulc_> Proposed text is at: http://dev.w3.org/html5/2014/10/url-ref.html
16:08:29 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
16:08:39 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Accessibility Task Force Report
16:09:02 <ShaneM> janina: There is a draft longdesc decision floating around W3M.
16:09:21 <ShaneM> ... once that is out we will be able to decide how to unblock the alt note.
16:09:37 <ShaneM> ... there was a long discussion about it in the A11Y Task Force meeting today.  See the minutes for details.
16:10:13 <ShaneM> ... Basically there are changes needed whichever way the decision goes.  There will be bugs filed against the alt document once the decision is ready.
16:10:24 <ShaneM> s/decision/longdesc decision/
16:10:39 <ShaneM> ...  lots of A11Y discussions at TPAC.  See the minutes for details.
16:10:55 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Media Task Force
16:11:10 <paulc_> Media TF minutes: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/07-html-media-minutes.html
16:11:28 <ShaneM> Spend 90% of the time processing EME bugs.
16:11:29 <paulc_> http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo for open EME bugs
16:11:31 <ShaneM> s/Spend/Spent/
16:11:47 <ShaneM> There are about 19 or 20 bugs.
16:12:04 <ShaneM> There are 3 or 4 significant areas that are blocking the rest of the issues.
16:12:21 <paulc_> Media TF has asked for Fri morning at the TPAC F2F meeting
16:12:23 <ShaneM> ... converting the spec to ReSpec format.
16:12:37 <ShaneM> q+ to ask about the respec conversion
16:12:51 <ShaneM> q-
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16:13:38 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Canvas Task Force
16:14:00 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JulSep/0039.html
16:14:29 <rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Canvas_Task_Force/CR-Test
16:14:59 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014OctDec/0010.html
16:15:05 <ShaneM> rubys: test results.  plan is to have all the tests run at least once by tomorrow.  Not a lot of progress so far so it is possible that date will be missed.
16:15:17 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:15:18 <ShaneM> ... next meeting is tomorrow.  Anyone interested should join!
16:15:46 <Zakim> +ShaneM
16:15:55 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
16:16:11 <ShaneM> a) Longdesc CR
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16:16:16 <paulc_> See http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
16:16:34 <ShaneM> janina: heard that there may be a decision forthcoming.
16:17:12 <ShaneM> ... implementation report ready.  PR version of the spec is ready.  If the decision goes in favor of the spec, we are ready to put out the CfC request to proceed to PR.
16:17:37 <ShaneM> b) Text alternatives
16:17:40 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Oct/0015.html
16:18:12 <ShaneM> This is effectively blocked until the longdesc decision is complete.  Whichever way the decision goes some tweak will be needed.
16:18:27 <SteveF> am here to respond to any questions on alt doc
16:18:31 <paulc_> FTR see the A11Y TF discussions today on text alternatives: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-a11y-minutes.html
16:19:47 <paulc_> SteveF: get in touch with me if you want re text alternatives status
16:19:47 <janina> The Proposed Recommendation (PR) draft is available at:
16:19:47 <janina> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-PR-html-longdesc/
16:19:47 <janina> Our Implementation Report for this specification showing that it meets
16:19:47 <janina> W3C recommendation requirements is available at:
16:19:47 <janina> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/html-longdesc/cr-report.html
16:20:21 <ShaneM> TOPIC: HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
16:20:23 <paulc_> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda
16:20:43 <paulc_> See https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#Day_1
16:20:50 <ShaneM> Agenda is getting locked down because of required time coordination with other groups.
16:21:05 <SteveF> paulc_: will do, would like to point out a number of incorrect statements made in todays taskforce meet
16:21:18 <ShaneM> ...  try to do the A11Y stuff on Thursday morning.
16:21:31 <ShaneM> ... Joint session with dPub, CSS, A11Y and HTML on thursday afternoon.
16:21:41 <ShaneM> ... Media TF has asked for a slot Friday morning.
16:22:25 <ShaneM> janina: not aware that CSS is going to be part of that meeting.  They are sending some people, not the whole group.
16:23:03 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
16:23:13 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:23:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-minutes.html paulc_
16:23:15 <ShaneM> Next meeting is 16 October.  Sam will chair.
16:23:49 <Zakim> -Sam
16:23:55 <Zakim> -gregDavis
16:23:59 <ShaneM> Adjourned.
16:24:01 <Zakim> -paulc_
16:24:03 <Zakim> -Plh
16:24:03 <Zakim> -janina
16:24:06 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:24:07 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:24:07 <Zakim> Attendees were janina, Sam, Plh, ShaneM, paulc_, gregDavis
16:24:16 <ShaneM> rrsagent. make minutes
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16:24:41 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
16:24:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
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