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19:55:50 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3668
19:55:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_Fonts()4:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
19:55:51 <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
19:55:51 <trackbot> Date: 08 October 2014
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20:01:48 <Vlad> zakim, this is 3668
20:01:48 <Zakim> ok, Vlad; that matches IA_Fonts()4:00PM
20:01:53 <Vlad> zakim, who is here?
20:01:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, jfkthame, Vlad
20:01:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see kuettel_, sergeym, jfkthame, RSheeter, Zakim, RRSAgent, Vlad, kuettel, trackbot
20:02:34 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:04:27 <ChrisL> ChrisL has joined #webfonts
20:04:37 <ChrisL> rrsagent, here
20:04:37 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2014/10/08-webfonts-irc#T20-04-37
20:05:29 <Zakim> +ChrisL
20:05:56 <ChrisL> scribenick: ChrisL
20:07:46 <ChrisL> Vlad: attached new spec to agenda
20:08:07 <ChrisL> ... we can continue editing test plans
20:08:23 <ChrisL> topic: open and pending actions
20:09:21 <ChrisL> action-143?
20:09:22 <trackbot> action-143 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Update the spec in regards to the bug -- due 2014-09-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:09:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/143
20:09:56 <ChrisL> Vlad: decided to change name of table to transform glyph table with explicit definition
20:10:31 <ChrisL> ... also noticed some things about LOCA calculation, changed toa nrmative requirement
20:10:40 <ChrisL> ... in section 5.1
20:12:01 <ChrisL> Vlad: also some minor changes on bounding box, ref impl was not same as spec, stream size plyus length of bbox, see email
20:12:25 <ChrisL> ... so let us keep it like the Google implementation
20:12:33 <ChrisL> ... not pretty but ok
20:12:42 <ChrisL> action-144?
20:12:42 <trackbot> action-144 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Add langauge to the WOFF2 spec to define how checksum of the 'head' table should be treated -- due 2014-09-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:12:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/144
20:13:00 <ChrisL> Vlad: added explicit UA reqmt to update checksums
20:13:16 <ChrisL> ... now normative statements, need testing
20:13:21 <ChrisL> action-147?
20:13:21 <trackbot> action-147 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Update spec for bbox dropping criteria, min max of all coordinates -- due 2014-09-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:13:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/147
20:13:39 <ChrisL> Vlad: added one para in 5.1 second para after table
20:14:04 <ChrisL> ... detailed description of calc bbox and conditions when to omit it or keep it
20:14:21 <ChrisL> ... and explicit for composite glyph
20:14:50 <ChrisL> action-151?
20:14:50 <trackbot> action-151 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Change first paragraph of section 3 to remove reference to private data compression -- due 2014-09-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:14:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/151
20:15:13 <ChrisL> Vlad: removed indication about compressing. its opaque binary data
20:16:23 <ChrisL> jfkthame: needs a bit more clarification on the table itself
20:17:02 <ChrisL> ... the semantic portion on various streams. its a sequence of uint16 not a single uint16
20:17:09 <ChrisL> ... and how many entries they have
20:17:20 <ChrisL> Vlad: depends on actual glyph records
20:18:32 <ChrisL> jfkthame: sizes in bytes, needs to be explicit, size in words or bytes
20:18:35 <ChrisL> Vlad: ok
20:19:04 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF2/spec/ now updated in cvs
20:19:29 <ChrisL> Vlad: better if we drop the additional description as stream defined later
20:19:42 <ChrisL> jfkthame: ok, redundantr but still say size in bytes
20:20:23 <ChrisL> Vlad: any other comments
20:20:37 <ChrisL> jfkthame: no but not carfefully read through it yet
20:21:12 <ChrisL> close action-143
20:21:12 <trackbot> Closed action-143.
20:21:15 <ChrisL> close action-144
20:21:15 <trackbot> Closed action-144.
20:21:18 <ChrisL> close action-147
20:21:18 <trackbot> Closed action-147.
20:21:22 <ChrisL> close action-150
20:21:22 <trackbot> Closed action-150.
20:21:25 <ChrisL> close action-151
20:21:25 <trackbot> Closed action-151.
20:21:50 <ChrisL> action vlad to review and update description field of transform glyph table
20:21:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-152 - Review and update description field of transform glyph table [on Vladimir Levantovsky - due 2014-10-15].
20:22:39 <ChrisL> topic: open actions
20:22:40 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open
20:23:50 <ChrisL> action-133?
20:23:50 <trackbot> action-133 -- Raph Levien to Review the spec edits and finalize the definition of the "nominal size" -- due 2014-10-15 -- OPEN
20:23:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/133
20:24:12 <ChrisL> Vlad: hope to hear from Raph on this
20:24:44 <ChrisL>  ... david could you ping him on that?
20:24:58 <ChrisL> action-145?
20:24:58 <trackbot> action-145 -- Roderick Sheeter to check padding and alignment in reference implementation -- due 2014-09-21 -- OPEN
20:24:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/145
20:25:12 <ChrisL> RSheeter: not yet
20:25:17 <ChrisL> action-146?
20:25:17 <trackbot> action-146 -- Chris Lilley to Use ietf-w3c liaison to get review and guidance for next steps on brotli id -- due 2014-09-23 -- OPEN
20:25:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/146
20:27:10 <ChrisL> ChrisL: (summaries emails)
20:27:33 <ChrisL> Vlad: is informational rfc enough?
20:27:38 <ChrisL> ChrisL: yes
20:27:57 <ChrisL> Vlad: david can you ask your compressions folks for a reviewer
20:28:22 <ChrisL> kuettel_: ok so wehen the ID is refreshed, suggest reviewers
20:28:46 <ChrisL> kuettel_: also setting up a top level project for brotli as discussed at f2f
20:29:28 <ChrisL> ChrisL: also provide some context on places the spec is used
20:29:33 <ChrisL> action-148?
20:29:33 <trackbot> action-148 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Review and edit the conformance test for extraneous data -- due 2014-09-23 -- OPEN
20:29:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/148
20:29:42 <ChrisL> Vlad: not domne yet
20:29:49 <ChrisL> action-149?
20:29:49 <trackbot> action-149 -- Chris Lilley to Check expectations regarding cts from ietf -- due 2014-09-23 -- OPEN
20:29:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/149
20:30:03 <ChrisL> ChrisL: not found much, keep open
20:30:39 <ChrisL> topic: reviewing spec changes
20:30:50 <ChrisL> Vlad: please read changed parts and email comments
20:31:27 <ChrisL> Vlad: test plans have some mistakes, need to update them
20:32:09 <ChrisL> kuettel_: a diff would be useful
20:32:18 <ChrisL> ChrisL: will look for one and send it out
20:32:58 <ChrisL> topic: test plan
20:33:25 <ChrisL> Vlad: can do this on the phone but hard without spec changes reviewed
20:33:34 <ChrisL> ... better to do this in email
20:35:14 <ChrisL> topic: tpac meeting
20:35:53 <ChrisL> Vlad: several of us are there anyway so lets have an informal meeting
20:36:42 <ChrisL> Vlad: can we do a call for consensus in email?
20:36:44 <ChrisL> ChrisL: yes
20:37:05 <ChrisL> Vlad: wednesday will be busy. maybe on tuesday or thursday
20:37:12 <ChrisL> ... tues pm is ac meeting
20:37:31 <ChrisL> ChrisL: tues better than thurs for me
20:37:45 <ChrisL> Vlad: hoperaph can attend, tuesday morning/
20:37:48 <ChrisL> kuettel_: yes
20:38:52 <ChrisL> sergeym: if anyone is going to unicode but not tpac, thursday is better
20:39:05 <ChrisL> ... john hudson may be going
20:39:34 <ChrisL> Vlad: currently tuesday seems better
20:40:01 <ChrisL> kuettel_: can set up a hangout, and also space at google offices
20:40:47 <ChrisL> kuettel_: what about time, 8am to 10am
20:41:37 <ChrisL> jfkthame: do send out a time but don't be sure i can join
20:41:54 <ChrisL> ... no preferred time
20:42:19 <ChrisL> jfkthame: depends on what else is happening
20:43:39 <ChrisL> Vlad: how about 9am?
20:43:56 <ChrisL> kuettel_: earlier means we finish earlier
20:44:45 <ChrisL> Vlad: ok, 8am start. please see if raph is available and if 8am is ok for him
20:44:56 <ChrisL> Vlad: 2 hours is enough
20:46:16 <ChrisL> zakim, list attendees
20:46:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jfkthame, Vlad, [Microsoft], ChrisL
20:46:21 <ChrisL> chair: vlad
20:46:47 <ChrisL> present+ rod, kuettel_
20:46:54 <Zakim> -??P0
20:46:57 <Zakim> -Vlad
20:46:59 <ChrisL> trackbot, end telcon
20:46:59 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:46:59 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jfkthame, Vlad, [Microsoft], ChrisL
20:47:02 <Zakim> -jfkthame
20:47:03 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
20:47:05 <Zakim> -ChrisL
20:47:06 <Zakim> IA_Fonts()4:00PM has ended
20:47:06 <Zakim> Attendees were jfkthame, Vlad, [Microsoft], ChrisL
20:47:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:47:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/08-webfonts-minutes.html trackbot
20:47:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:47:08 <RRSAgent> I see no action items