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13:57:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:57:33 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
13:57:33 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:57:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:57:34 <trackbot> Date: 02 October 2014
13:57:39 <r12a> zakim, this will be i1n
13:57:39 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, r12a
13:57:44 <r12a> zakim, this will be i18n
13:57:44 <Zakim> ok, r12a; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:58:04 <r12a> chair: richard
13:58:19 <r12a> regrets: addison
13:58:22 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
13:58:29 <Zakim> + +1.813.410.aaaa
13:58:41 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
13:58:41 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
13:58:42 <Zakim> +Richard
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13:59:58 <Zakim> +DTan
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14:00:25 <Zakim> + +1.617.491.aabb
14:00:41 <Zakim> +Leandro
14:01:01 <r12a> zakim, +1.617 is John
14:01:01 <Zakim> +John; got it
14:01:20 <Leandro> Leandro has joined #i18n
14:01:20 <r12a> zakim, +1.813 is Steve
14:01:20 <Zakim> +Steve; got it
14:01:25 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
14:01:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve, Richard, DTan, John, Leandro
14:01:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Leandro, David, JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, DennisTan, r12a, fantasai, xiaoqian, trackbot
14:01:34 <matial> matial has joined #i18n
14:01:47 <Zakim> +??P16
14:02:15 <David> I just joined
14:02:25 <David> but I don't think you can hear me
14:02:45 <r12a> zakim, ??P16 is David
14:02:45 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:02:48 <Zakim> -David
14:03:00 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
14:03:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve, Richard, DTan, John, Leandro
14:03:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see matial, Leandro, David, JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, DennisTan, r12a, fantasai, xiaoqian, trackbot
14:03:17 <Zakim> +??P28
14:03:24 <Zakim> +??P16
14:03:26 <matial> zakim, ??p28 is me
14:03:26 <Zakim> +matial; got it
14:03:46 <David> zakim, mute me
14:03:47 <Zakim> sorry, David, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:04:09 <r12a> zakim, ??P16 is David
14:04:09 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:04:24 <David> zakim, mute me
14:04:24 <Zakim> David should now be muted
14:04:25 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
14:04:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve, Richard, DTan, John, Leandro, matial, David (muted)
14:04:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see matial, Leandro, David, JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, DennisTan, r12a, fantasai, xiaoqian, trackbot
14:05:39 <r12a> scribenick: Leandro
14:05:49 <r12a> Topic: Action Items
14:05:59 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
14:06:44 <r12a> close action-345
14:06:44 <trackbot> Closed action-345.
14:07:13 <r12a> close action-347
14:07:13 <trackbot> Closed action-347.
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14:08:54 <Leandro> JcK: question about action-346, please be very specific about what they objections are
14:09:21 <r12a> action: richard to clarify action 346
14:09:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-348 - Clarify action 346 [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-10-09].
14:09:35 <r12a> Topic: Info Share
14:09:35 <Leandro> Zakim, mute me
14:09:35 <Zakim> Leandro should now be muted
14:09:59 <Leandro> Steve Natkin from IBM on the call, welcome
14:10:09 <r12a> s/Natkin/Atkin/
14:10:32 <Leandro> Chief G11n architect at IBM, 20yrs there; involved with cloud/mobile computing, interested in Arabic language/script
14:10:39 <matial> Hello, Steve!
14:10:55 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks
14:13:59 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/html-bidi-requirements/
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14:15:12 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks#Bidirectional_text_direction
14:15:54 <Zakim> +koji
14:16:20 <r12a> Topic:  Intent to Implement: Form controls respecting |lang| attribute  value
14:16:28 <r12a> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/QpEoCwU0Ttg
14:17:46 <Leandro> Richard: folks want to localize form controls, e.g. default text for submit button should match page language, rather than OS language
14:18:47 <Leandro> Richard: question from Anne: what if the author wants the OS to provide the information?
14:23:29 <Leandro> Richard: current proposal is to give highest priority is language declared in source code, then browser language, then OS language
14:25:16 <Leandro> Koji's concern: content of form controls should belong to users, rather than authors
14:25:56 <Leandro> JcK: reader's preference should prevail
14:39:13 <JcK> (only if one can accurately determine the reader's preference and it doesn't conflict with other things.  This is complicated)
14:40:36 <Leandro> Steve: how do I know what the fallback language is?
14:41:04 <Leandro> Richard: we need to work out through all the scenarios
14:44:05 <koji> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/QpEoCwU0Ttg/YR1xM5ck9vgJ
14:48:31 <Leandro> Richard: we need Addison to get involved in this discussion
14:49:38 <r12a> action: richard to put together framework for wiki/document discussing issues and proposals for handling locale of form widgets
14:49:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-349 - Put together framework for wiki/document discussing issues and proposals for handling locale of form widgets [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-10-09].
14:49:52 <matial> I don't hear anything. Is it my line, or general?
14:50:30 <r12a> mati we don't hear you
14:50:41 <Zakim> -matial
14:50:49 <David> I hear you
14:51:03 <r12a> mati, it looks like it's just you
14:51:44 <r12a> Topic: Chinese font-family defaults
14:52:46 <Zakim> -John
14:53:09 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_font_families
14:53:29 <Zakim> +John
14:54:06 <Zakim> +??P24
14:54:16 <matial> zakim, ??p24 is me
14:54:17 <Zakim> +matial; got it
14:58:48 <Leandro> TPAC conference: if you haven't already done so, please try and register today... prices are going up
14:59:01 <matial> Bye
14:59:02 <Leandro> thanks, Richard
14:59:03 <Zakim> -DTan
14:59:04 <Zakim> -Steve
14:59:04 <Zakim> -John
14:59:06 <Zakim> -koji
14:59:07 <Zakim> -David
14:59:08 <Zakim> -matial
14:59:10 <Zakim> -Leandro
14:59:13 <Zakim> -Richard
14:59:14 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
14:59:14 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.813.410.aaaa, Richard, DTan, +1.617.491.aabb, Leandro, John, Steve, David, matial, koji
14:59:25 <JcK> Bye
14:59:25 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
14:59:25 <Zakim> sorry, r12a, I don't know what conference this is
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14:59:38 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:59:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/02-i18n-minutes.html r12a
14:59:49 <r12a> rrsagent, make log public
14:59:57 <r12a> zakim, this is i18n
14:59:57 <Zakim> r12a, I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be i18n".
15:01:04 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:01:04 <Zakim> apparently I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended, r12a
15:01:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see koji, Steve_Atkin, Zakim, RRSAgent, DennisTan, r12a, fantasai, xiaoqian, trackbot
15:02:38 <r12a> steve, still there?
15:03:14 <r12a> Steve_Atkin
15:04:08 <Steve_Atkin> Need to go to another call
15:04:12 <Steve_Atkin> I will email you.
15:06:30 <r12a> ok
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