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13:01:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:01:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
13:01:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:01:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference
13:01:07 <trackbot> Date: 01 October 2014
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13:01:19 <kaz> zakim, this will be tv
13:01:20 <Zakim> ok, kaz, I see UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM already started
13:01:26 <Zakim> +??P5
13:01:27 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
13:01:28 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
13:01:28 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
13:01:29 <ddavis> zakim, ??P5 is me
13:01:31 <Zakim> +ddavis; got it
13:01:46 <Zakim> +gmandyam
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13:02:02 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:02:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, +1.818.370.aaaa, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam
13:02:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:02:48 <geguchi> no
13:02:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:03:21 <Zakim> +geguchi
13:03:30 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, +1.818.370.aaaa, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, [IPcaller], geguchi
13:03:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:04:04 <kaz> zakim, aaaa is glen
13:04:04 <Zakim> +glen; got it
13:05:25 <kaz> zakim, IPcaller is yosuke
13:05:25 <Zakim> +yosuke; got it
13:06:54 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:06:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, glen, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, yosuke, geguchi
13:06:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:07:01 <kaz> zakim, glen is glenn
13:07:02 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
13:07:10 <kaz> zakim, pick up victim
13:07:10 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick up victim', kaz
13:07:15 <kaz> zakim, pick victim
13:07:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick victim', kaz
13:07:26 <ddavis> zakim, who's on the call?
13:07:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, glenn, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, yosuke, geguchi
13:07:35 <kaz> zakim, pick a victim
13:07:35 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Bin_Hu
13:08:02 <kaz> zakim, pick a victim
13:08:02 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ddavis
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13:10:26 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:10:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, glenn, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, yosuke, geguchi
13:10:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see mark_vickers, geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:11:12 <kaz> Present: Bin, Glenn_Deen, Daniel, Kaz, Giri, Yosuke, Glenn_Eguchi
13:12:52 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
13:13:00 <kaz> Present+ Mark
13:14:11 <kaz> q+ glenn
13:14:12 <kaz> ack g
13:15:00 <kaz> GGIE session will be held in the afternoon
13:15:06 <kaz> yosuke will update the wiki
13:15:47 <yosuke> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Face-to-face_meeting_during_TPAC_2014#Agenda_Monday_October_27
13:17:28 <ddavis> scribenick: ddavis
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13:17:39 <ddavis> scribe: Daniel
13:17:43 <ddavis> Chair: Yosuke
13:18:26 <ddavis> Present: Bin Hu, Glenn Deen, Kaz, Giri, Yosuke, Geguchi, DDavis
13:18:40 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:18:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bin_Hu, glenn, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, yosuke, geguchi, Mark_Vickers
13:18:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see Paul_Higgs, mark_vickers, geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:18:47 <ddavis> Present: Bin, Glenn_Deen, Daniel, Kaz, Giri, Yosuke, Glenn_Eguchi, Mark Vickers
13:18:51 <kaz> Present+ Mark
13:18:59 <ddavis> Present: Bin, Glenn_Deen, Daniel, Kaz, Giri, Yosuke, Glenn_Eguchi, Mark Vickers
13:19:18 <kaz> s/Mark Vickers/Mark_Vickers/
13:20:02 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:20:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:20:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/01-webtv-minutes.html kaz
13:21:09 <ddavis> Yosuke: Let's check the updates to the agenda
13:21:29 <ddavis> Yosuke: 1st session, Welcome, Logistics, IG Introduction
13:21:42 <ddavis> Yosuke: 2nd session, Agenda Bashing
13:21:52 <ddavis> Yosuke: 3rd session, Updates from SDOs: Aligning Global and Regional Web&TV Standards
13:22:04 <ddavis> Yosuke: 4th session,  Joint Sessions with Other Groups 1
13:22:18 <ddavis> Yosuke: 5th session, New Contributions from IG members
13:22:29 <ddavis> Yosuke: 6th session, HTML Media Extensions: MSE, EME, and In-band Media Resoruces
13:22:40 <ddavis> Yosuke: 7th session, The Second Round Usecases
13:22:42 <mark_vickers> q+
13:22:54 <ddavis> Yosuke: 8th session, Wrap-up & Next Steps
13:23:04 <ddavis> Yosuke: Any comments/questions?
13:23:29 <ddavis> Glenn_Deen: I saw that item 3 had one hour originally but now only 30 minutes.
13:23:42 <ddavis> Yosuke: Yes, we currently only have one item for this so we reduced it.
13:24:05 <ddavis> Gleen_Deen: There might be a lot of discussion so I think it'd be better to have one hour.
13:24:23 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I think the original request was for one hour.
13:24:43 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I think the SDO session could be less than 90 minutes.
13:25:01 <ddavis> mark_vickers: They probably won't have long presentations and introductions, just updates.
13:25:18 <ddavis> yosuke: We'll have an introduction from TTA about the Korean standard.
13:25:51 <ddavis> yosuke: But maybe 90 minutes is too long so we can make that shorter and if we need more time, extend the session into morning break.
13:26:08 <ddavis> yosuke: I.e. if people have further comments they can speak to TTA during the break.
13:27:09 <ddavis> yosuke: We could perhaps move the talk from SMPTE to session 7
13:27:36 <ddavis> yosuke: So that means we can make session 3 one hour.
13:27:49 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I'm also not sure whether session 6 will need one hour.
13:28:31 <gmandyam> q+
13:29:09 <ddavis> yosuke: We can extend session 5 to one hour.
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13:29:46 <ddavis> Glenn_Deen: I was going to suggest the Open Binding discussion is a good introduction to what GGIE will cover.
13:30:32 <Zakim> -Bin_Hu
13:30:32 <ddavis> Glenn_Deen: The SMPTE could be followed by GGIE followed by use cases.
13:30:51 <kaz> q?
13:30:54 <ddavis> ack gmandyam
13:30:54 <kaz> ack mark
13:31:31 <ddavis> gmandyam: When you say proposal for EME and therefore all video to go over HTTPS, that's a bit misleading.
13:32:04 <ddavis> gmandyam: That's been discussed in the getUserMedia group but hasn't been accepted yet, so WebRTC will not necessarily be tied to secure origin either.
13:32:35 <ddavis> gmandyam: I don't know if I'll be there for that discussion but we should be very precise about what it involves.
13:32:44 <mark_vickers> q+
13:33:05 <ddavis> gmandyam: As for the SMPTE/fingerprinting discussion, we should be careful. My understanding with SMPTE is that it's under the hood as far as the UA is concerned.
13:33:24 <ddavis> Glenn_Deen: I can take a look at that.
13:33:28 <Zakim> +simon
13:33:28 <gmandyam> q-
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13:34:04 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I agree - the items on the potential topics were just copied and pasted from emails so I'd rather we just have a topic such as "update on HTML5 EME, MSE and in-band resource issues".
13:34:18 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I don't know if we need all the sub-topics in the agenda.
13:34:20 <ddavis> ack mark_vickers
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13:34:38 <ddavis> s/Glenn_Deen/Glenndeen/g
13:34:51 <ddavis> yosuke: OK, I've updated the wiki page again.
13:35:35 <ddavis> yosuke: I made the GGIE session to one hour and but the SMPTE updates to the beginning of the GGIE session.
13:35:47 <ddavis> yosuke: And put updates from DIAL in to the second screen session.
13:35:49 <mark_vickers> I don't think the agenda updates were saved yet
13:36:02 <ddavis> yosuke: That makes the SDO session from 90 minutes to 60 minutes.
13:36:17 <ddavis> yosuke: We can also use part of the morning break if necessary.
13:36:55 <Glenndeen> I see it
13:39:30 <ddavis> ddavis: We could add keywords as reminders, e.g. dataCue, MSE, HTTPS, in-band media tracks
13:39:43 <geguchi> q+
13:41:14 <kaz> ack geguchi
13:41:23 <ddavis> geguchi: Can we add "seamless ad splicing" as one of the keywords?
13:41:32 <mark_vickers> +1
13:41:37 <gmandyam> Keywords look fine to me- thanks.
13:42:04 <Zakim> -simon
13:42:13 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:42:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, ddavis, Kazuyuki, gmandyam, yosuke, geguchi, Mark_Vickers
13:42:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see Glenndeen, simon, jcverdie, Paul_Higgs, mark_vickers, geguchi, gmandyam, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, yosuke, ddavis, timeless, sangwhan, tobie, schuki, trackbot
13:42:18 <ddavis> yosuke: I'll add it.
13:42:51 <kaz> Present+ Simon
13:42:59 <yosuke> q?
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13:43:23 <mark_vickers> Q+
13:43:32 <ddavis> yosuke: Any other comments/ideas to improve the agenda?
13:43:57 <ddavis> mark_vickers: I think we should call it a tentative agenda as we'll be doing agenda bashing.
13:44:01 <ddavis> yosuke: OK
13:44:02 <kaz> ack m
13:45:32 <mark_vickers> I'm sure Giuseppe will have useful comments on the agenda later.
13:46:00 <ddavis> yosuke: I think this is a good agenda and we can update it on the day.
13:46:18 <ddavis> yosuke: I think we don't need to hold a TV IG call before TPAC.
13:46:47 <ddavis> yosuke: Unless we see any items or issue we need to discuss. Otherwise discussions on the mailing list should be fine.
13:47:03 <ddavis> Topic: Any other business
13:47:12 <ddavis> yosuke: Anything else for today's call?
13:47:47 <mark_vickers> I look forward to seeing you all at TPAC!
13:47:49 <ddavis> yosuke: Thank you for your active participation. I think we have an attractive agenda.
13:47:57 <Zakim> -gmandyam
13:48:01 <Zakim> -glenn
13:48:04 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
13:48:05 <Zakim> -yosuke
13:48:05 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
13:48:07 <ddavis> yosuke: Thanks for attending - the meeting is adjourned.
13:48:11 <Zakim> -ddavis
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13:48:12 <Zakim> Attendees were Bin_Hu, +1.818.370.aaaa, Kazuyuki, ddavis, gmandyam, geguchi, yosuke, glenn, Mark_Vickers, simon
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13:48:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/01-webtv-minutes.html ddavis
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13:48:32 <yosuke> Thank you very much for your hard work as usual, Daniel!
13:49:08 <yosuke> Next time, I will do scribe task! :-)
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