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14:01:17 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:01:17 <trackbot> Date: 29 September 2014
14:01:18 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 59 minutes
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14:01:23 <ivan> Chair: Markus
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14:04:08 <ivan> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/5424F804.6080000@gmail.com
14:04:28 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda for 2014-09-29: http://www.w3.org/mid/5424F804.6080000@gmail.com
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14:57:45 <fjh> zakim, code?
14:57:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), fjh
14:57:45 <astearns> zakim, aaaa is me
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15:01:33 <ivan> zakim, code?
15:01:33 <Zakim> the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
15:01:48 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:01:56 <mgylling> zakim, who is here?
15:01:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see astearns, clapierre, fjh, dauwhe, dkaplan3, Markus, +1.217.300.aabb, MikeMiller, murakami, [Ugent], pkra, Ivan
15:01:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see david_stroup, AH_Miller, pkra, murakami, dkaplan3, clapierre, mgylling, dauwhe, Bert, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, astearns, fjh, liam, plinss, trackbot
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15:02:31 <Zakim> sorry, bjdmeest, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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15:03:04 <mgylling> regrets: Luc, Graham, Phil, Thierry, Vladimir, Rob, Julie
15:03:12 <bjdmeest> zakim, who is here?
15:03:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see astearns, clapierre, fjh, dauwhe, dkaplan3, Markus, astein, MikeMiller, murakami, [Ugent], pkra, Ivan, david_stroup, Bert, +1.917.770.aadd, Bill_Kasdorf,
15:03:15 <Zakim> ... +1.201.236.aaee
15:03:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bill_Kasdorf, bjdmeest, astein, david_stroup, AH_Miller, pkra, murakami, dkaplan3, clapierre, mgylling, dauwhe, Bert, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, astearns, fjh,
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15:03:45 <ivan> zakim, aaee is pbelfanti
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15:04:52 <mgylling> correct link for last weeks minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Sep/0077.html
15:04:54 <dauwhe> mgylling: discussing last week's minutes
15:05:02 <dauwhe> mgylling: any objections?
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15:05:10 <dauwhe> mgylling: minutes approved.
15:05:11 <Zakim> +madi
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15:05:20 <dauwhe> mgylling: two things on agenda
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15:05:30 <dauwhe> ... PF collaboration will have to wait
15:05:35 <dauwhe> ... update on STEM from Peter
15:05:39 <dauwhe> ... then TPAC agenda
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15:05:55 <liza> zakim, Safari is me
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15:06:18 <tmichel> zakim,??P12 is me
15:06:18 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it
15:06:56 <dauwhe> pkra: hammer out a richer questionairre based on early interviews
15:07:18 <dauwhe> ... I've summarized the interviews but haven't published yet
15:07:30 <dauwhe> ... hope to finish by end of month
15:07:57 <dauwhe> ... it has been interesting... the first four have given me a very different angle
15:08:11 <dauwhe> ... those four were forward-thinking, cutting edge
15:08:27 <dauwhe> mgylling: we're curious about observations
15:08:45 <dauwhe> pkra: suprised by [a] big focus on authoring side and what OWP can do there
15:09:00 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:09:05 <dauwhe> ... it would be better world if web was much more involved in authoring
15:09:17 <dauwhe> ... contenteditable is an issue
15:09:32 <dauwhe> ... how to create print representation of web doc
15:09:35 <mgylling> ack Bill_K
15:09:41 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: can you summarize who these people were?
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15:09:52 <dauwhe> pkra: Peter ??? who was a researcher
15:10:04 <dauwhe> ... came up with CML, does data mining
15:10:30 <dauwhe> ... Fernando ???, working on scientific computation, ipython notebook format
15:10:37 <Zakim> +TimCole
15:10:42 <dauwhe> ... machine readable but also creates human readable
15:11:00 <dauwhe> ... Dan ??? from hypothesis, working on annotations
15:11:12 <dauwhe> ... Ian ??? from ???, a publisher of open-access journal
15:11:24 <tzviya> q+
15:11:31 <liam> [ Peter Murray-Rust ]
15:11:53 <liza> ((Sounds OK to me)
15:11:58 <ivan> s/Dan ???/Dan Whaley/
15:11:58 <dauwhe> s/Peter ???/Peter Murray-Rust/
15:12:23 <dauwhe> pkra: themes were need for community building
15:12:32 <dauwhe> ... community group for reasearchers and authors
15:12:41 <dauwhe> ... this IG to educate about technologies
15:12:52 <dauwhe> ... the third big theme was about PDF
15:12:55 <Bill_Kasdorf> s/???/eLife/
15:13:05 <dauwhe> ... something everyone has to deal with
15:13:21 <dauwhe> ... pdf creation, being able to use pdf better in web context, tools like PDFjs
15:13:27 <tzviya> q-
15:13:33 <dauwhe> ... another issue is peer review and search
15:13:59 <dauwhe> mgylling: thanks for summary. Has there been discussion of native rendering of STEM content?
15:14:07 <dauwhe> pkra: not so much.
15:14:37 <dauwhe> ... so little agreement standards that could lead to native rendering that community group is needed
15:14:45 <dauwhe> ... they felt its too early
15:15:05 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:15:26 <dauwhe> ... there's dismay at static content
15:15:44 <dauwhe> ... when author comes with SVG, but publisher asks for TIFF
15:15:58 <dauwhe> ... so people are cautious, focusing on baby steps
15:16:13 <dauwhe> ... it's not like MathML, where people are already using it
15:16:18 <tzviya> q+
15:16:24 <mgylling> ack Bill_K
15:16:54 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: STEM publishing is one of the earliest sectors to go digital
15:16:59 <dauwhe> ... they did that using PDF
15:17:10 <dauwhe> ... for them, digital = PDF
15:17:22 <dauwhe> ... that whole population takes that for granted, its a limiting factor
15:17:25 <ivan> +1 to Bill's comment
15:17:44 <dauwhe> ... the people were very progressive, so startling to hear about PDF
15:17:45 <mgylling> ack tzviya
15:18:22 <dauwhe> pkra: this came up in positive way. 2 problems: we have an output problem, our users want PDF
15:18:42 <dauwhe> ... the first problem is Word.
15:18:50 <dauwhe> ... JATS is the other issue
15:19:00 <dauwhe> ... then you have to generate PDF out of this
15:19:21 <dauwhe> ... if input is HTML in future, and out put HTML in future, then pipeline could be simpler
15:19:46 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: I'm aware of some initiatives to move in HTML direction, but can't name them right now.
15:19:50 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: the tide is turning
15:20:03 <dauwhe> tzviya: did you provide a link to doc?
15:20:08 <dauwhe> pkra: still working on it
15:20:31 <dauwhe> tzviya: until recently, primary output has been PDF but lots of pubs are looking at HTML now
15:20:43 <dauwhe> ... CUP, for example, has option to look at both HTML and PDF
15:20:52 <dauwhe> ... we're seeing that more and more in STEM world
15:21:02 <dauwhe> ... which means we need math rendering!!!
15:21:08 <dauwhe> ... this is becoming urgent.
15:21:42 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: this literate is distributed through hosting services. All have JATS at their core, but they all have HTML 'cause they're online.
15:21:49 <dauwhe> s/literate/literature/
15:22:11 <dauwhe> tzviya: not everything is a journal
15:22:21 <dauwhe> ... i've been converting STEM books to EPUB
15:22:43 <dauwhe> ... but because of math I'm having trouble, we've done them as images but this can't continue
15:23:19 <dauwhe> mgylling: you mentioned MathML. Is it a more generic problem? Chemistry, electronics, other subjects with graphic needs?
15:23:26 <ivan> q+
15:23:30 <dauwhe> tzviya: it's a broader problem. Chemistry is worse.
15:23:45 <dauwhe> ... physics is an issue, and even advanced math
15:23:55 <mgylling> q?
15:23:56 <dauwhe> mgylling: on what level should we attack the problem?
15:24:00 <mgylling> ack ivan
15:24:04 <dauwhe> tzviya: mathml isn't a quick win
15:24:24 <pkra> q+
15:24:27 <dauwhe> ivan: in metadata task force, talking mostly about ONIX and metadata in ONIX
15:24:47 <dauwhe> ... worth talking to STEM folks about the metadata that community uses, which may be different
15:25:02 <dauwhe> ... from traditional publishers
15:25:14 <dauwhe> ... STEM publishing includes conference proceedings
15:25:25 <Bill_Kasdorf> STEM metadata is dominated by CrossRef deposits and metadata required by the hosting services--not typically ONIX
15:25:37 <dauwhe> ... all the ID mechanisms are different, but we need different metadata structure than for whole book
15:25:48 <tzviya> +1
15:25:49 <dauwhe> ... we should not let go of this issue
15:26:18 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: many stem publishers view metadata as solved problem. they use crossref and their hosting services
15:26:23 <dauwhe> ... also fundref
15:26:44 <dauwhe> ... onix only on the book side
15:26:58 <mgylling> ack pkra
15:27:00 <TimCole> +q
15:27:14 <mgylling> q?
15:27:28 <Bill_Kasdorf> there is an ONIX for serials but it is less ubiquitous than Onix for Books
15:27:51 <dauwhe> pkra: other standards also came up, but people are cautious. Even the author of CML is cautious about a standard
15:28:25 <dauwhe> ... also talked about linked data
15:28:29 <mgylling> ack TimCole
15:28:44 <dauwhe> TimCole: ivan mentioned metadata issues
15:29:04 <dauwhe> ... there was a report about the important about describing metadata at equation level
15:29:13 <dauwhe> ... for discovery and linking
15:29:19 <dauwhe> ... derived from MathML
15:29:28 <dauwhe> ... searching for math equations or linking to them
15:30:15 <dauwhe> ... digitizing renaissance books with emblems, there's a vocabulary for defining them, need to apply to individual emblem
15:30:31 <pkra> q+
15:30:38 <dauwhe> ... if stuff is in PDF, it's harder to find and you can't properly describe the metadata
15:30:41 <mgylling> ack pkra
15:31:29 <pbelfanti> Must drop, apologies
15:31:29 <dauwhe> pkra: tools like PDF.js allow people to mix PDF and HTML
15:31:33 <Zakim> -pbelfanti
15:31:54 <dauwhe> mgylling: how many more interviews?
15:32:05 <dauwhe> pkra: I want to do 3 or 4 more
15:32:12 <dauwhe> ... plus work on the questionairres
15:33:00 <dauwhe> mgylling: any advice for Peter?
15:33:12 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: make sure you have representative sample of types of people that you interview
15:33:34 <dauwhe> ... the first interviews are cutting-edge folks, but may not be representative of average scholarly publisher
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15:33:44 <dauwhe> ... the questionairre is intended to do that
15:33:51 <dauwhe> pkra: I agree.
15:34:15 <dauwhe> ... "strong opinions" is an understatement :)
15:34:19 <astearns> :)
15:34:31 <dauwhe> ... I will follow your advice
15:34:37 <mgylling> q?
15:34:43 <dauwhe> mgylling: any more questions for peter?
15:34:57 <mgylling> TPAC agenda is here: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/TPAC2014-F2F
15:34:58 <dauwhe> Topic: TPAC agenda
15:35:18 <mgylling> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/TPAC2014-F2F#Participation
15:35:24 <dauwhe> mgylling: I will lean on Tzviya, who has been running calls
15:35:35 <dauwhe> ... who will attend in person, who will attend virtually
15:35:56 <ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP
15:36:53 <dauwhe> mgylling: did we discuss agenda items in the last two calls?
15:37:00 <dauwhe> tzviya: I'm going to pull up minutes
15:37:28 <tzviya> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Sep/0001.html
15:37:36 <dauwhe> ... we had a rough sketch of the meetings
15:38:13 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html
15:40:22 <dauwhe> tzviya: want to talk with PF
15:41:09 <dauwhe> CSS has offered to meet on open time Monday
15:42:13 <dauwhe> mgylling: if our primary topic is pagination and box tree
15:43:48 <astearns> Peter Linss is registered for AC/Testing on Thurs and Fri
15:44:17 <dauwhe> ... we could be looking at spending a full half day on pagination both internally and with CSS
15:44:32 <Bert> (I'll be there the whole week, too.)
15:44:41 <dauwhe> ... this is both requirements doc for DOM pagination, CSS box tree, and publishers requirements
15:45:36 <dauwhe> ... for IG's own agenda
15:46:09 <dauwhe> ... 25% to pagination cluster (req, css, dom) but we don't know when yet. Waiting to hear from dauwhe on getting CSS participation
15:46:22 <dauwhe> ... I'll put tentatively on thursday morning pagination
15:46:27 <dauwhe> ... we can move later
15:46:49 <dauwhe> ... regarding PF / a11y / role
15:46:57 <dauwhe> tzviya: I can reach out to PF folks
15:47:18 <dauwhe> ... focused on integrating DPUB terminology
15:48:09 <dauwhe> dkaplan3: a joint session could be useful, we'd want to talk about what form that would take
15:48:24 <dauwhe> tzviya: not sure how much time we should take
15:48:53 <dauwhe> mgylling: if we get meeting with PF, would be good to summarize our next steps
15:49:30 <dauwhe> tzviya: we might work with people other than PF
15:49:48 <dauwhe> dkaplan3: we have meeting with WAI and mobile team to talk about road map mobile used
15:49:59 <dauwhe> ... might help us avoid some dead ends
15:50:28 <Zakim> -dkaplan3
15:50:38 <dauwhe> mgylling: what other themes for IG meetings?
15:50:47 <dauwhe> tzviya: metadata
15:51:03 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: we now have github draft up for discussion
15:51:12 <dauwhe> ... I'll be there thursday friday
15:51:17 <dauwhe> ... madi can't attend
15:51:39 <dauwhe> madi: I'll try to call in, depending on the time
15:51:45 <dauwhe> ivan: what times would work for you
15:51:52 <dauwhe> madi: earliest meetings are better
15:52:01 <TimCole> for metadata, I will only be there Thursday and would like to hear about metadata that day if possible
15:52:07 <dauwhe> mgylling: I'll put metadata on friday morning
15:52:14 <dauwhe> ... do we have clear deliverable here?
15:52:31 <Zakim> +[Safari]
15:52:32 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: want to get discussion going on list based on starter draft on github
15:52:39 <ivan> q+
15:52:41 <pkra> q+
15:52:42 <dauwhe> ... designed to stimulate discussion
15:52:47 <dkaplan3> zakim, [Safari] IS ME
15:52:47 <Zakim> +dkaplan3; got it
15:53:05 <dauwhe> ... would like clarity on what we're working towards
15:53:32 <dauwhe> ivan: 2 things: 1: github doc will eventually become publication, but it also includes recommendations for further work
15:53:45 <dauwhe> ... and that further work may happen as part of the IGs work for the coming year
15:53:53 <dauwhe> ... it's both document and planning
15:54:30 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: let a week or two go by for discussion, then I can provide an agenda for that discussion
15:55:03 <dauwhe> ... maybe by the 13th
15:55:24 <dauwhe> mgylling: pagination, metadata, possibly a11y, what else?
15:55:38 <dauwhe> tzviya: having update on STEM
15:56:04 <dauwhe> mgylling: update on STEM task force?
15:56:20 <dauwhe> tzviya: annotations work is now in its own group
15:56:29 <fjh> Annotation WG will have meeing on Tuesday at TPAC
15:56:33 <dauwhe> ivan: we should publish annotations use cases as note, then close task force
15:56:42 <dauwhe> ... this is on Rob's shoulders
15:57:15 <dauwhe> ... the annotation use cases doc should be closed, and not be on agenda any more
15:57:24 <dauwhe> ... we don't need f2f time for this
15:57:32 <dauwhe> mgylling: do we need F2F time for STEM?
15:57:35 <mgylling> q?
15:57:40 <mgylling> ack everyone
15:57:45 <mgylling> ack ivan
15:57:49 <mgylling> ack pkra
15:57:51 <dauwhe> pkra: I cannot make it, can dial in
15:58:21 <dauwhe> ... there was nothing planned.
15:58:35 <astearns> have to drop for my next meeting, sorry
15:58:41 <Zakim> -astearns
15:58:58 <dauwhe> ... might connect with math group
15:59:34 <dauwhe> tzviya: we can get update at weekly meetings
15:59:47 <Zakim> -liza
16:00:16 <dauwhe> mgylling: we can certainly use F2F time if it will help
16:00:58 <dauwhe> mgylling: agenda now beginning to appear on wiki
16:01:07 <dauwhe> ivan: update on chinareq
16:01:22 <dauwhe> ... lot of overlap with i18n
16:01:27 <dauwhe> ... also in korean
16:01:45 <dauwhe> ... discussions with Indian community about typesetting requirements
16:01:53 <dauwhe> ... we should discuss with Richard Ishidia
16:02:15 <dauwhe> s/Ishidia/Ishida/
16:02:26 <dauwhe> mgylling: can we put placeholder?
16:02:34 <dauwhe> ivan: I'll check with them, if you ask nicely
16:02:57 <clapierre> Meeting with SVG?
16:02:59 <dauwhe> mgylling: pagination, metadata, i18n, possibly a11y, possibly STEM
16:03:20 <dauwhe> tzviya: we have talked about HTML WG about validation issues but not ready yet
16:03:20 <Zakim> -david_stroup
16:03:30 <Zakim> -fjh
16:03:34 <dauwhe> tzviya: Charles had talked about meeting with SVG group
16:03:40 <Bill_Kasdorf> I changed On: Peter and Madi to On: Bill and Madi for Friday morning metadata session at TPAC
16:03:49 <dauwhe> clapierre: I don't know what the status is there
16:04:01 <Bill_Kasdorf> . . . in the agenda on the wiki
16:04:15 <dauwhe> ... since they're there we could find out about a11y in SVG
16:04:32 <dauwhe> mgylling: anyone here on that group? I'll take the action
16:04:46 <dauwhe> ACTION: mgylling to reach out to SVG about a11y
16:04:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Reach out to svg about a11y [on Markus Gylling - due 2014-10-06].
16:05:28 <mgylling> q?
16:05:41 <dauwhe> mgylling: if you have more agenda items, let us know
16:05:49 <dauwhe> ... sorry to be over time.
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16:11:49 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.206.675.aaaa, astearns, clapierre, fjh, dauwhe, Markus, +1.217.300.aabb, dkaplan3, MikeMiller, murakami, pkra, Ivan, david_stroup, +33.4.92.38.aacc,
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17:33:20 <tmichel> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:33:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/29-dpub-minutes.html tmichel
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