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14:02:38 <ndw> zakim, this is xproc
14:02:38 <Zakim> ok, ndw; that matches XML_PMWG()10:00AM
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14:02:57 <ndw> Meeting: XProc WG
14:03:09 <ndw> Date: 3 September 2014
14:03:25 <ndw> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/09/03-agenda
14:04:27 <ndw> Regrets: Henry
14:04:30 <ndw> Regrets: Henry, Jim
14:04:37 <ndw> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
14:04:42 <ndw> Meeting: 250
14:04:44 <ndw> Chair: Norm
14:04:57 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
14:05:00 <Norm> ScribeNick: Norm
14:05:09 <Norm> Present: Norm, Alex, Loren
14:05:35 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda
14:05:58 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/09/03-agenda
14:06:01 <Norm> Accepted.
14:06:10 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting
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14:06:26 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/08/27-minutes
14:06:37 <Norm> Accepted.
14:06:54 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: 9 September 2014
14:07:05 <Norm> No regrets heard.
14:07:21 <Norm> Alex gives possible regrets.
14:07:33 <Norm> Topic: Removing XPath 1.0
14:08:04 <Norm> Norm: I propose to make that the new status quo draft for 2.0. Any objections?
14:08:33 <Norm> Alex: We replaced a lot of instances of 1.0 with 2.0 and I wonder if we should try to be more clever about insulating ourselves from future changes.
14:08:55 <Norm> Norm: I agree, but we can do that in the future.
14:09:53 <Norm> We have that as a requirement:
14:09:55 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/30
14:10:02 <Norm> Alex: We're pretty close, but it seems like we could be more clever.
14:10:17 <Norm> ...We should give implementors the option of doing an XPath 3.1 processor in the future.
14:10:39 <Norm> Norm: That's why I didn't remove xpath-version...
14:11:46 <Norm> Norm: We can just say "XPath 2.0 or some future version" if we're clever.
14:11:59 <Norm> Alex: I think we need to just be a little more careful in the XPath context sections.
14:12:22 <Norm> Norm: So, any objections to the proposal in pull request 71?
14:12:31 <Norm> None heard. Accepted.
14:12:41 <Norm> Topic: Fix spec metadata
14:13:26 <Norm> Norm: On another day, I might have just called this editorial.
14:14:01 <Norm> Alex: Are we using DeltaXML? What about higher granularity of changes?
14:14:17 <Norm> Norm: DeltaXML won't do that, the XPath spec does it by having the author do the change markup.
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14:14:49 <MoZ> Zakim, code?
14:14:49 <Zakim> the conference code is 97762 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), MoZ
14:15:00 <Norm> ...I thought I could get DeltaXML to pull requests, but I couldn't.
14:15:01 <MoZ> Zakim, this is xproc
14:15:01 <Zakim> MoZ, this was already XML_PMWG()10:00AM
14:15:01 <Zakim> ok, MoZ; that matches XML_PMWG()10:00AM
14:15:51 <Zakim> + +33.9.52.47.aaaa
14:15:56 <MoZ> Zakim, aaaa is me
14:15:56 <Zakim> +MoZ; got it
14:15:59 <Norm> Present: Norm, Alex, Loren, Mohamed
14:16:17 <Norm> Norm: I'll consider doing the diff markup by hand.
14:16:59 <Norm> ...I'll do it "by hand" for the next round of changes and we'll see how that goes.
14:17:11 <Norm> ...Anyway, an objection to the proposal in pull request 73?
14:17:23 <Norm> None heard, accepted.
14:18:03 <Norm> Topic: Work plan?
14:18:54 <Norm> Alex: From a scheduling standpoint, we're all going in different directions.
14:19:06 <Norm> ...I'm just about caught up.
14:19:55 <Norm> Norm: I'm hoping discrete requirements will help.
14:20:28 <Norm> Alex: Maybe we could get some idea of peoples availability for spec work.
14:21:25 <MoZ> what about TPAC ?
14:21:40 <Norm> Norm: Realistically, I think we'll be spun back up by early October.
14:21:46 <Norm> Alex: Maybe we should make that explicit.
14:21:53 <Norm> Loren: How many folks are going to TPAC?
14:22:13 <Norm> Norm: I'll be there, Alex it's easy for you.
14:22:18 <Norm> Mohamed: I'm trying to get there.
14:22:20 <Norm> Loren: I'll be there.
14:22:57 <Norm> Loren: I think XProc is Thursday/Friday.
14:23:19 <Norm> Alex: I can't make Thursdays.
14:23:36 <Norm> Norm: Ok, I'll see about moving XProc to Monday/Tuesday.
14:24:56 <Norm> Alex: I can be there on Monday for sure.
14:25:53 <Norm> Norm: Alex, you were going to work on parameters and zip/unzip.
14:26:04 <Norm> Alex: Yes, I got some work done on zip/unzip. I just need to integrate some feedback.
14:26:24 <Norm> Alex: There's a question about process.
14:26:49 <Norm> Norm: On the process question for zip/unzip, I suggest you follow the model of the p:template step.
14:27:54 <Norm> Norm: On the authoring question, let's chat.
14:28:02 <Norm> Alex: And the instructions for this are...
14:28:11 <Norm> Norm: I have an action to update the README.
14:29:10 <Norm> Alex: I'll start with zip/unzip.
14:30:06 <Norm> Alex: We could make having zip/unzip ready for review at TPAC a goal.
14:31:09 <Norm> Topic: Any other business?
14:32:33 <Norm> None heard
14:32:37 <Norm> Adourned
14:32:39 <Zakim> -Loren_Cahlander
14:32:41 <Zakim> -Alex_Milows
14:32:41 <Zakim> -MoZ
14:32:42 <Norm> rrsagent, set logs world visible
14:32:47 <Norm> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:32:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/03-xproc-minutes.html Norm
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14:32:52 <Zakim> Attendees were [ArborText], Alex_Milows, Loren_Cahlander, +33.9.52.47.aaaa, MoZ
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