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14:00:01 <Norm> zakim, this is xproc
14:00:01 <Zakim> ok, Norm; that matches XML_PMWG()10:00AM
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14:00:08 <Norm> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
14:00:08 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/08/20-agenda
14:00:08 <Norm> Date: 20 Aug 2014
14:00:08 <Norm> Meeting: 249
14:00:09 <Norm> Chair: Norm
14:00:11 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
14:00:15 <Norm> ScribeNick: Norm
14:01:23 <Zakim> -Norm
14:01:28 <Norm> WTF?
14:02:05 <Norm> zakim, passcode?
14:02:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 97762 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Norm
14:02:13 <Zakim> +Norm
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14:03:52 <Zakim> +Alex_Milows
14:06:03 <Norm> Present: Norm, Loren, Jim, Alex
14:06:04 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda?
14:06:04 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/08/20-agenda
14:06:10 <Norm> Accepted.
14:06:15 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
14:06:15 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/07/02-minutes
14:06:21 <Norm> Accepted.
14:06:24 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: 27 Aug 2014
14:06:40 <Norm> Jim gives probably regrets.
14:06:53 <Norm> Topic: We got rechartered!
14:07:06 <jfuller> YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAA
14:07:14 <Norm> Norm: We're rechartered, y'all get to rejoin and welcome Loren.
14:07:52 <Norm> Topic: Test suite at github
14:08:00 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/test-suite
14:09:18 <Norm> Norm explains the background: tests on github but for process reasons the test suite still runs from tests.xproc.org
14:09:40 <Norm> Jim: Do we plan a different branch for v2.
14:09:56 <Norm> Norm: I should have said the repo defaluts to the branch xproc10
14:10:56 <Norm> Jim: I'm not sure how we're going to deal with backwards incompatibilities. I'm not sure we've enumerated them all.
14:11:53 <Norm> Norm :I don't think we have, I don't think we know all the differences.
14:12:17 <Norm> Alex: What are we going to do with a 2.0 processor that includes a 1.0 pipeline.
14:13:25 <Norm> Norm: I think we'll have to consider the difference in semantics.
14:13:57 <Norm> ...It would be best if 1.0 pipelines would silently work most of the time.
14:14:24 <Norm> Jim: When we work out what the backwards incompatabilities are, we'll have to document them.
14:15:06 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/test-suite/pull/6
14:16:05 <Norm> Norm: All I did was patch the result so that it would be consistent. Anyone object to this change?
14:16:06 <jfuller> +1 to that change, looks reasonable
14:16:25 <Norm> Accepted.
14:16:48 <Norm> Topic: Issue #7
14:16:55 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/test-suite/pull/7
14:17:05 <Norm> Norm: This one fixes quoted charsets.
14:17:19 <alexmilowski> FYI, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_URI_scheme
14:17:32 <alexmilowski> file://host/path
14:19:55 <jfuller> FWIW - I am equally fine with both
14:19:56 <Norm> Norm: I'll do a little investigation.
14:21:41 <Norm> zakim, who's talking?
14:21:53 <Zakim> Norm, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loren_Cahlander (12%), +420.7.332.2.aaaa (25%), Norm (44%)
14:24:26 <Norm> Investigation reveals that RFC 2616 defines a parameter as either a token or a token string.
14:24:31 <Norm> s/token string/quoted string/
14:25:00 <Norm> Norm: Ok. Quoted strings are allowed, I suppose it follows that we shouldn't change the test.
14:25:54 <Norm> Alex: We should minute the reference to RFC 2616 so we don't have to do this exercise again.
14:26:00 <Norm> Norm: I believe you just did.
14:26:26 <Norm> Topic: Issue #10
14:26:27 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/test-suite/issues/10
14:26:47 <Norm> -> https://github.com/xproc/test-suite/blob/xproc10/tests/optional/psvi-required-001.xml
14:28:01 <Norm> Norm: I think the comment is correct.
14:28:05 <Norm> Jim: Is there spec work required?
14:28:12 <Norm> Norm: No, the spec is clear the test is just inadequate.
14:28:40 <Norm> Norm: I propose we add psvi-required to the test. An implementation that supports PSVI will continue to work and an impl that doesn't will fail differently, but more reliably.
14:32:02 <Norm> Alex: I think we need to consider whether or not 'psvi-required' is a good term. No one knows about it anymore, it's all handled by whether or not you validate.
14:34:28 <Norm> Any objections to the change?
14:34:35 <Norm> s/Any /Norm: Any /
14:34:41 <Norm> Norm: None  heard
14:35:33 <Norm> Topic: Spec updates?
14:35:49 <Norm> Norm: Alex, have you made any progress on your parameters task?
14:36:31 <Norm> Alex: No, and it won't happen until mid-September at least. I don't think it'll take long, I'm just going to take a chainsaw to the spec.
14:41:15 <Norm> Alex: I suggest we just merge that one without review; it's moving deck chairs not making substantive changes.
14:42:12 <Norm> Norm: Yes, that makes sense.
14:42:20 <Norm> Topic: Zip/Unzip steps
14:42:27 <Norm> Norm: No progress, I assume.
14:42:47 <Norm> Topic: Bug reports
14:42:57 <Norm> Norm: I've done  a little drafting but haven't got anything ready yet
14:43:11 <Norm> Norm: I will try to have that ready next week.
14:43:26 <Norm> Topic: Any other business?
14:43:47 <Norm> None heard, we are adjourned.
14:43:59 <Norm> rrsagent, set logs world-visit
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14:44:18 <Norm> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:44:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/20-xproc-minutes.html Norm
14:44:24 <Zakim> -Norm
14:44:26 <Zakim> -Loren_Cahlander
14:44:27 <Zakim> -Alex_Milows
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14:44:29 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()10:00AM has ended
14:44:29 <Zakim> Attendees were Loren_Cahlander, Norm, +420.7.332.2.aaaa, Alex_Milows
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