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13:53:49 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
13:53:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:53:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
13:53:53 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
13:53:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:53:54 <trackbot> Date: 07 August 2014
13:54:07 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Aug/0003.html
13:54:14 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix, Mati
13:55:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
13:55:41 <aphillip> rrsagent, set logs world
13:55:58 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:56:02 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
13:56:06 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
13:56:10 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:56:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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13:57:46 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.408.536.aaaa
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13:58:53 <annevk> Zakim, passcode?
13:58:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 4186 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), annevk
13:58:58 <Zakim> +aphillip
13:59:05 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
13:59:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip
13:59:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
13:59:13 <Zakim> + +1.408.536.aaaa
13:59:34 <aphillip> zakim, +1.408.536.aaaa is leandro
13:59:34 <Zakim> +leandro; got it
13:59:39 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
13:59:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, leandro
13:59:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
14:00:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:00:10 <annevk> Zakim, [IP is me
14:00:10 <Zakim> +annevk; got it
14:00:26 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:00:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, leandro, annevk
14:00:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
14:00:34 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
14:00:34 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:00:35 <Zakim> +Richard
14:02:23 <aphillip> Topic: Encoding LC
14:02:38 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/25
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14:05:59 <aphillip> addison: (summary)
14:06:03 <annevk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014JulSep/0023.html
14:06:13 <aphillip> annevk: larry hasn't answered my questoin (see above)
14:06:17 <aphillip> ... he hasn't replied
14:06:19 <annevk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014JulSep/0003.html
14:07:08 <aphillip> annevk: in previous month, Mark Davis made a suggestion
14:13:56 <aphillip> richard: ... written with the intention of replacing IANA charset...
14:16:38 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Jul/0027.html
14:17:21 <aphillip> annevk: "for the purposes of specifications that reference this specificatoin"
14:17:31 <aphillip> ... and specifications that reference them
14:17:41 <annevk> "For the purposes of specifications using this specification, that registry is obsolete."
14:18:06 <aphillip> This specification, rather than the > > IANA Character Sets registry, is the recommended normative reference > > for specifications that define Web protocols and document formats and > > their implementations.
14:19:20 <aphillip> addison: talked about going back to charmod
14:19:27 <aphillip> annevk: can make WG proposal to larry
14:20:45 <aphillip> action: addison: reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne
14:20:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-328 - Reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-08-14].
14:22:38 <aphillip> action: richard: re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results
14:22:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-329 - Re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-08-14].
14:25:56 <annevk> http://futbolenlatele.com/
14:26:46 <aphillip> richard: was working on uniview last week
14:26:53 <aphillip> ... put in entities for utf-8
14:27:10 <aphillip> ... rather than windows-1252 characters
14:27:20 <aphillip> annevk: thats in the html layer
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14:27:37 <aphillip> ... mapping of range to 1252
14:27:50 <aphillip> richard: applies even when using entities?
14:28:02 <aphillip> annevk: if using utf-8 you can enter them raw
14:28:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:29:05 <aphillip> &#x80; != 0xc2.80
14:29:25 <annevk> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#consume-a-character-reference
14:29:34 <aphillip> zakim, [IPcaller] is Jan
14:29:34 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
14:29:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:33:10 <Zakim> -annevk
14:33:12 <Zakim> -Jan
14:33:35 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:33:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, leandro, Richard, JcK
14:33:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see JcK, annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
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14:34:18 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
14:34:44 <aphillip> Topic: Encoding
14:35:13 <aphillip> jck: ietf hasn't really seen/paid attention to this yet
14:40:22 <aphillip> richard: asked by html community to make this happen
14:40:50 <aphillip> ... poliitical issues nothing to do with us?
14:41:20 <aphillip> jck: implicit or explicit deprecation of ICR
14:41:50 <aphillip> ... causes "bad things" to happen with various registries that are the structre of the internet
14:44:34 <aphillip> addison: will send draft out right away
14:44:50 <aphillip> ... give a day or so for wg comments
14:45:05 <aphillip> Topic: Time Zones
14:45:10 <aphillip> action-327?
14:45:11 <trackbot> action-327 -- Addison Phillips to Update the time zone proposal and then file an issue against html5.next about it -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN
14:45:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/327
14:45:29 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/HTML5TimeZone
14:46:48 <aphillip> addison: propose we go to www-international first before filing a bug?
14:47:22 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:49:07 <aphillip> action-315?
14:49:07 <trackbot> action-315 -- Addison Phillips to Close satisifed items in css-text -- due 2014-07-03 -- OPEN
14:49:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/315
14:49:15 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/2
14:50:52 <aphillip> close action-315
14:50:52 <trackbot> Closed action-315.
14:51:04 <aphillip> close action-326
14:51:04 <trackbot> Closed action-326.
14:52:22 <aphillip> Topic: RADAR
14:53:35 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/41
14:54:28 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/search?type-index=www-international&index-type=t&keywords=21678&search=Search
14:54:49 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21678
14:56:12 <aphillip> addison: would we formally object?
14:56:37 <aphillip> action: addison: remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week
14:56:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-330 - Remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-08-14].
14:56:59 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
14:57:33 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:57:52 <aphillip> richard: uniview... mentioned it last week
14:57:56 <r12a> http://rishida.net/uniview/
14:58:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:58:21 <r12a> http://rishida.net/blog/?p=1121
14:58:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:59:05 <aphillip> richard: now supports unicode 7; comments welcome (to me)
14:59:46 <Zakim> -leandro
14:59:47 <Zakim> -aphillip
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15:00:00 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:00:03 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
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15:00:03 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, leandro, annevk, Richard, JcK, Jan
15:00:10 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:00:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:00:43 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Leandro, JcK, AnneVK (guest)
15:00:53 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:00:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:01:00 <aphillip> Present+ Jan
15:01:18 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:01:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:01:43 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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15:01:47 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:01:47 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:01:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne [1]
15:01:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-20-45
15:01:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results [2]
15:01:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-22-38
15:01:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week [3]
15:01:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-56-37