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15:46:18 <glazou> Zakim, this will be Style
15:46:18 <Zakim> ok, glazou; I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
15:46:22 <glazou> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:46:26 <glazou> hi there
15:46:34 <glazou> Zakim, code?
15:46:34 <Zakim> the conference code is 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), glazou
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15:56:13 <glazou> Zakim, aabb is me
15:56:13 <Zakim> +glazou; got it
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15:59:32 <florian> Zakim, I am ??P12
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16:00:15 <SimonSapin> Zakim, I am ??P19
16:00:16 <Zakim> +SimonSapin; got it
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16:01:26 <adenilson> Zakim: ??P27 is me.
16:01:44 <Bert> zakim, P27 is me
16:01:44 <Zakim> sorry, Bert, I do not recognize a party named 'P27'
16:01:50 <glazou> Zakim, ??P27 is adenilson
16:01:51 <Zakim> +adenilson; got it
16:01:53 <Bert> zakim, ??P27 is me
16:01:53 <Zakim> I already had ??P27 as adenilson, Bert
16:01:58 <Zakim> +fantasai
16:02:03 <adenilson> LOL! That is funny.
16:02:20 <Zakim> +SteveZ
16:02:20 <TabAtkins> zakim, mute fantasai
16:02:21 <Zakim> fantasai should now be muted
16:02:28 <TabAtkins> zakim, unmute fantasai
16:02:28 <Zakim> fantasai should no longer be muted
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16:02:47 <glazou> Zakim, mute ??P24
16:02:47 <Zakim> ??P24 should now be muted
16:02:48 <TabAtkins> zakim, mute p24
16:02:48 <Zakim> ??P24 should now be muted
16:02:48 <Zakim> sorry, TabAtkins, I do not know which phone connection belongs to p24
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16:03:19 <dbaron> Zakim, adenilson is Bert
16:03:19 <Zakim> +Bert; got it
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16:03:49 <Zakim> sorry, dbaron, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ??24
16:03:52 <dbaron> Zakim, mute ??P24
16:03:52 <Zakim> ??P24 should now be muted
16:04:00 <adenilson> Zakim, ??P24 is me.
16:04:00 <Zakim> +adenilson; got it
16:04:00 <dael> glazou: Let's start guys
16:04:09 <dael> glazou: As usual, extra items on the agenda? I have 2
16:04:28 <Zakim> + +1.603.821.aaee
16:04:31 <dael> florian: I have a brief comment. Just wanted to comment about the upcoming F2F wiki. There isn't much about agenda or participation details
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16:04:39 <dael> glazou: We should start putting items there, agreed.
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16:05:07 <dael> glazou: My two, first is the new process. It's live and we have to decide the new CR exit criteria. What do we do with existing CR specs. Do we repub under new process?
16:05:09 <Zakim> +glenn
16:05:09 <SimonSapin> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Aug/0053.html
16:05:10 <florian> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Aug/0053.html
16:05:11 <glazou> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ProcessTransition2014
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16:05:32 <dael> glazou: The document is this URL. That's the transition doc. It has a section about the main changes. I suggest everyone reads.
16:05:39 <dael> glazou: Have people had a chance to year this.
16:05:45 <dael> fantasai: I have I read it a while ago.
16:05:51 <dael> glazou: Others?
16:05:52 <adenilson> nope.
16:05:58 <TabAtkins> read it
16:06:03 <dael> seveal: nope.
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16:06:14 <dael> glazou: Let's put an action on everyone to read for next week.
16:06:17 <Zakim> +hober
16:06:21 <dael> Action everyone read the new process doc
16:06:21 <trackbot> Error finding 'everyone'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/users>.
16:06:22 <Zakim> -hober
16:06:40 <dael> glazou: This is poss for F2F, but with the action for now there's no excuse not to have it by Sept.
16:06:55 <Zakim> +hober
16:06:57 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:06:58 <Zakim> +??P51
16:07:00 <dael> fantasai: I think we should transtion to new process as we pub spec. If we republish a CR we should do it into the new process.
16:07:02 <Zakim> -hober
16:07:03 <abinader> Zakim, ??P51 is me
16:07:03 <Zakim> +abinader; got it
16:07:08 <gregwhitworth> Zakim Microsoft is me
16:07:10 <dael> glazou: I'd live everyone to read the new process.
16:07:14 <TabAtkins> I agree with fantasai too.
16:07:22 <abinader> Ms2ger: o/ !
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16:07:32 <Bert> +1
16:07:33 <krit> +1 for John
16:07:38 <SimonSapin> +1
16:07:38 <dael> glazou: Second is about jdaggett. He's rejoining as you saw, but won't be at F2F. He'd like to become editor of Fonts again and req agreement from the group. I don't thnk it's a problem.
16:07:47 <dael> TabAtkins: I say yes because otherwise I'd have to take over
16:07:51 <SteveZ> +1 for John being editor
16:07:51 <dael> glazou: Any obj?
16:07:55 <florian> +1
16:07:56 <adenilson> +1.
16:07:58 <leaverou> +1
16:08:05 <dael> RESOLVED: John Daggett is reinstated as Font spec editor
16:08:16 <dael> Topic: Animation Issues
16:08:28 <dael> dbaron: I think we can save that for next week.
16:08:33 <dael> glazou: No problem.
16:08:40 <dael> Topic: CSS Color Classes
16:08:50 <dael> TabAtkins: I haven't read minutes from last week. Did we discuss last week?
16:08:53 <dbaron> dbaron: sylvain was going to start a thread, and said he would do so tomorrow
16:09:22 <glazou> tantek, ?
16:09:28 <leaverou> is here :)
16:09:28 <dael> TabAtkins: So no. In that case, leaverou hasn't posted the counter proposal, so I say we keep the first option until later, I'll continue pinging her, she's busy
16:09:58 <dael> TabAtkins: We can doing the naming of RGB Color Class. As I said, the name RGBColor is taking by a DOM level 2 style interface, one of those terrible ones. I don't think it matters in the slightest.
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16:10:25 <dbaron> I've seen some pages using the class, but I don't remember seeing them use the name
16:10:34 <dael> TabAtkins: I'd be surprised to find 1 in 1 mill pages using this. I'd be surprised to find one. I think it's fine for us to steal the name as browsers never impl or in Blink's case halfway
16:10:48 <dael> TabAtkins: WE can renme to something else and have a note in the spec saying we're stealing this name.
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16:11:13 <krit>  was me
16:11:16 <dael> s/renme/rename
16:11:21 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:11:23 <krit> Is there a use counter in Blink for it
16:11:43 <MaRakow> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
16:11:43 <Zakim> +MaRakow; got it
16:11:57 <dael> TabAtkins: There is no use counter in blink for it, but I am 100% confident in the results. If you think it's needed we can measure, but I think it'll be below the noise threshhold
16:12:05 <Zakim> +hober
16:12:09 <dael> TabAtkins: I don't believe we report below 1 in a million
16:12:22 <dael> glazou: Do we really need RGB Color and HSL Color? Can we have Color?
16:13:14 <dael> leaverou: That was what the counter was going to be. The main problem is...It was going to be having RGB in the same color class instead of sep classes, but there's a name collision.
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16:13:37 <Zakim> -krit
16:13:46 <dael> leaverou: TabAtkins and I discussed on IRC, If we do HSB there's a saturation issue. If we use the whole word, saturation is the same name, but different meanings.
16:14:01 <dael> leaverou: That's one of the reasons I don't have a counter is because I don't have a solution.
16:14:26 <dael> glazou: I'm trying to think as a web desiner. A color is a color and you're expressing in different units. I don't see the point of seperating.
16:14:42 <dael> TabAtkins: So we need an extra type whose sole purpose is to diff between HSL and HSB.
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16:14:54 <dael> fantasai: I don't think a type is right, I think you needs sep functions with sep names.
16:15:03 <dael> fantasai: You may jsut have HSL sat. and HSB sat.
16:15:21 <dael> TabAtkins: That's worse. It's verbose and inconsistant. Nothing else will be tagged. I think it's redi. to have RGB Red.
16:15:27 <SimonSapin> color.rgb.r?
16:15:39 <dael> glazou: I suggested for cleanness of proposal and because it solved naming issue iwth DOM.
16:16:13 <dael> TabAtkins: I don't think the name is important. I have other reasons why I don't want to merge. I'd prefer to give them in an e-mail because they're long, but name collision is one reason I think it's the way to go, but there's at least 2 other important.
16:16:17 <Bert> (That was also my main question on reading the proposal: why 4 classes instead of just 1?)
16:16:22 <dael> TabAtkins: I'd rather wait until there's a serious proposal.
16:16:28 <leaverou> dbaron: we currently have HWB in the ED, but it's possible HSV will be added in the future
16:16:46 <dbaron> SimonSapin: We could have color.rgb.r so there's an intermediate object
16:16:49 <dael> SimonSapin: I typed a prop on IRC.
16:17:04 <dael> TabAtkins: Can someone raise this in the ML so I can raise obj in long form text?
16:17:19 <leaverou> agreed this will be better discussed in the ML
16:17:25 <glazou> +1
16:17:43 <leaverou> SimonSapin: +1
16:17:49 <dael> liam: For everything that happens in RGB space, the CYMK part bothers me because for every other coordinate system it's the same, but it's not that with CYMK
16:18:09 <dael> TabAtkins: I think you'd have to make it so that each class rep different syntax for each color space. CMYK and RGB
16:18:25 <dael> liam: I'm not sure I'm comfortable with having a conversion between RGB and CYMK
16:18:52 <dael> TabAtkins: WE have that problem with device CMYK. Right now if the browser has knowledge of conversion it uses that, elsewise it uses naive
16:18:59 <glazou> s/liam/Florian
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16:19:33 <dael> florian: Yes, but that is using things beyond the syntax level. this is just introduced for syntax reasons. Now we're going beyond syntax and using color spaces. You don't allow it to do the smart thing
16:19:45 <dael> glazou: Let's take this back to the ML and move on with the agenda.
16:19:54 <dael> florian: So put this on the list?
16:19:58 <dael> TabAtkins: Yes please.
16:20:04 <dael> Topic: Brand Color
16:20:10 <dael> glazou: TabAtkins you said something on the ML?
16:20:12 <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jul/0131.html
16:20:21 <dael> TabAtkins: Someone said they can take this?
16:21:19 <dael> gregwhitworth: I was going to speak to what it was. We've been approach by windows phone to add an accent color and we look at other phones that may have this. We think there should be a broad concensus. It's not really a highlight, which was depicated. We were looking for what does the WG feel the best place for this is. We'll need something.
16:21:48 <dael> TabAtkins: I'm not 100% clear on use. Some examples of how this is used in an application, that would be cool. I don't get it right now.
16:22:14 <Zakim> -smfr
16:22:30 <dbaron> A generic accent color is a bit hard to use in combination with other colors since you don't know what other foregrounds/backgrounds will work with it.
16:22:30 <dael> gregwhitworth: I can provide that. It's system color, but that's depicated. You're setting an accent, so you're doing a theme on the desktop. Initially we were going to say apperence, but that's depicated too. WE're looking a place to stick a color.
16:22:59 <Zakim> +smfr
16:23:00 <dael> TabAtkins: This is why I need examples. I can imagine several different ways to do it, but it depends on what you're doing with it. Color might not be best because you might need light and dark.
16:23:10 <liam> [liam is not on the call - regrets, sorry - at Balisage conference in Washington DC, USA]
16:23:29 <dael> glazou: What you said sounds similr to CSS system colors we had in the past. We retired because eventually there wasn't enough to do with that.
16:23:37 <dael> TabAtkins: That's why I want to get past the abstract.
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16:23:46 <dael> gregwhitworth: I'll follow up on the thread with examples.
16:23:58 <dael> Topic: Transform as a shorthand
16:24:08 <dael> TabAtkins: I post a summary on the list about an hour ago.
16:24:31 <dael> TabAtkins: Adding 3 prop, transform, rotte and scale. Syntax is similar to the functions and impl in a similar way to transform origin.
16:24:45 <dael> TabAtkins: In particular there are pre-pended to the list as tranlsate rotate scale order.
16:24:54 <dael> TabAtkins: After the transform-origin business.
16:24:59 <dael> TabAtkins: That's basically it.
16:25:12 <dael> florian: Does your prop have the transform-origin business?
16:25:32 <smfr_> s/florian/smfr
16:25:34 <dael> TabAtkins: Yes. They're not required there, we can jsut say they use transform-origin, but I think it's nice to have the sperable.
16:25:48 <dael> fantasai: There will be lots of cases where you'll want to change the origin.
16:25:59 <dael> TabAtkins: Yes, As I said these should be short hands of original divs.
16:26:28 <dael> TabAtkins: So translate would be XY and Z. So they're useful to cascade sep. If I'm doing several rotations around a no-default access, that's useful.
16:26:49 <dael> glazou: Other opinions?
16:27:11 <dael> Bert: I'm skeptical to be honest. Maybe more time and talk at the F2F?
16:27:23 <glazou> s/Bert/krit
16:27:26 <dael> TabAtkins: We've talked about htis for 2 or 3 weeks, but the F2F is an okay delay.
16:27:32 <dael> krit: I think two more weeks is okay.
16:27:44 <dael> TabAtkins: I'm not saying it's unreasonable.
16:28:29 <SimonSapin> dbaron, my experience with implementing transforms is randomly swapping matrix multiplication order until it looks like other implementations
16:28:37 <dael> smfr: I think Apple feeling is this is an unnes complication. We won't be too upset if it happens, but I obj to splitting into sep properties. We've resisted that in other places. I don't protest the simple, but I don't want to break them into more longhands.
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16:29:12 <dael> TabAtkins: Well, background-position that we resisted breaking, two browsers broke it into independant X and Y because aithors wanted that. I don't see a difference between those.
16:29:26 <dael> krit: I think that's a bad example because that was partly from impl details.
16:29:43 <dael> marakow: I think there's huge details where it's different
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16:30:10 <dael> glazou: It appears this still needs more discussion. The scope of the prop...everything. We need more to make a decision and there's an objection from Apple.
16:30:19 <dael> glazou: fantasai, you say you want it as F2F item?
16:30:28 <MaRakow> s/I think there's huge details where it's different/Split background properties have been pretty painful as it introduces a lot of complexity and a huge test matrix/
16:30:44 <dael> fantasai: I think it's fine to bring this up at the F2F. I'd rather people focus on Krit's request to review level 1 and that's the same people.
16:30:46 <adenilson> +1
16:30:49 <dael> glazou: Other opinions?
16:30:57 <dael> glazou: Do people agree with fantasai?
16:31:05 <dael> Krit: No obj to the priorities.
16:31:39 <dael> glazou: let's do as Krit wants and continue working on the other proposal. I don't feel this is entirely ready, even afte r the discussion.
16:31:46 <dael> TabAtkins: I'm fine with review, but it's ready to be done.
16:31:56 <dael> glazou: We need more than an e-mail for the proposal.
16:31:59 <dael> TabAtkins: What do you mean?
16:32:09 <dael> glazou: A document or section? A changes section?
16:32:25 <dbaron> presumably the proposal is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jul/0315.html ?
16:32:29 <dael> TabAtkins: The entire prop is pretty complete in the e-mail. I can write it in the visual style
16:32:36 <dael> ??: Is this to go in transforms 1?
16:32:46 <glazou> s/??/smfr
16:32:59 <dael> TabAtkins: I won't do anything that means there will be objectiosn to spec level. It can go whereever as long as it get in somewhere.
16:33:23 <dael> krit: Having a more spec looking doc might help the review. With examples. It's maybe asking a lot, but just reading an e-mail can be hard.
16:33:29 <dael> TabAtkins: I'll put something together.
16:33:58 <dael> fantasai: I think this would be level 2. Maybe create a WD of level 2 for this? I don't want to put a time limit because the same people need to spend time reviewing level 1.
16:34:21 <dael> TabAtkins: I don't think every object being done separete is useful, but I don't care what level it goes in.
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16:34:35 <dael> fantasai: If you want to draw up a doc, get permission to put it on dev
16:34:39 <dael> TabAtkins: It's on my github
16:34:47 <dael> glazou: So when it's pub, will google impl right away?
16:34:49 <dael> TabAtkins: No
16:34:59 <dael> glazou: I want to make sure this is on the mornal rec track.
16:35:05 <dael> TabAtkins: THis is a personal proposal.
16:35:12 <dael> glazou: Then I have no obj for level 2
16:35:26 <dael> krit: Let's go on with an unoffical draft first.
16:35:28 <dael> TabAtkins: Agreed.
16:35:34 <dael> TabAtkins: Levels isn't relevent yet.
16:35:40 <dael> glazou: Everyone agrees?  No obj?
16:35:48 <dael> fantasai: Unoffical draft, what will you call it?
16:35:57 <dael> TabAtkins: I'll call it my proposal on my github
16:36:09 <dael> fantasai: I'd pref it doesn't put on github. We're writing proposals.
16:36:15 <dael> TabAtkins: I'm doing e-mail attachments.
16:36:36 <dael> glazou: We used to be able to store prop on w3c. Bert and I sent proposals and I think TabAtkins Should be able to
16:36:48 <dael> TabAtkins: We stopped when I got obj to putting proposals on that.
16:36:58 <dael> glazou: Not on dev, it was on the WG stage.
16:37:05 <dael> TabAtkins: Oh. None of have that permission
16:37:10 <glazou> s/stage/page
16:37:19 <gregwhitworth> I like GH myself, maybe a W3 GH repo?
16:37:23 <dael> fantasai: That is annoying. We should have a way to put everything on dev that's unoffical.
16:37:30 <dael> glazou: Everyone fine witht hat?
16:37:30 <gregwhitworth> Then it gets pulled in automatically?
16:37:39 <dael> krit: No obj to dev or github
16:37:57 <dael> ???: On w3c.org, how do we do that? Through CBS?
16:38:07 <dael> glazou: I suggest TabAtkins uses his github.
16:38:12 <SimonSapin> s/???/SimonSapin/
16:38:16 <SimonSapin> s/CBS/CVS/
16:38:30 <dael> Topic: Ruby
16:38:41 <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jul/0620.html
16:38:49 <dael> glazou: WE have two topics. First was by Boris about leading and trailing whitespace rules.
16:38:55 <Zakim> -smfr
16:39:07 <dael> fantasai: I think that will have to stay on the ML, I haven't gotten to it yet. Unless someone has interest on the call.
16:39:16 <dael> dbaron: I think they're both better on the ML.
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16:39:36 <dael> SteveZ: I was confused from Boris' example why the base isn't jsut text and whitespace is disappearing.
16:40:04 <dael> fantasai: There's special handling in Ruby to clear what you're use of indentation. We have a bunch of rules to generate anon boxes and I need to sit down and find the right way.
16:40:20 <dael> TabAtkins: Ruby bases and text are on different lines and there's rule about putting things for white space.
16:40:36 <dael> fantasai: There's rules about anon box and white space discarding and I need to sit down and find a fix.
16:40:50 <dael> fantasai: If you care about white space at a higher level, read the spec and send comments.
16:41:00 <dael> SteveZ: I've tried, but get confused between elements and boxes
16:41:04 <dael> fantasai: They should all be boxes
16:41:10 <dael> SteveZ: White space is an element thing
16:41:12 <dael> fantasai: content thing
16:41:27 <dael> SteveZ: But they're element. They're nodes, but not boxes.
16:41:33 <dael> fantasai: There's a bunch of ex in the spec.
16:41:45 <Zakim> -TabAtkins
16:41:51 <dael> SteveZ: Trying to read it and the Ruby HTML spec desn't work well together. I'll do it on the ML
16:42:08 <dael> glazou: So both items will go off the call. That's the last thing on the agenda. Bert F2F details?
16:42:14 <Zakim> +TabAtkins
16:42:21 <dael> Bert: Register. If you don't register, you don't get network access.
16:42:39 <dael> Bert: If you have questions or things for the wiki, let me know. I put the things I thought should be included, but let me know.
16:42:49 <dael> glazou: You've reserved a room? That's not mentioned on the wiki.
16:42:59 <dael> Bert: I don't know the name of the room, but there is one reserved.
16:43:04 <dael> glazou: Anything else?
16:43:11 <gregwhitworth> How do you register, send an email is there a magical button?
16:43:19 <dael> glazou: Okay. Then I think we have a short call.
16:43:22 <plinss> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/sophia-2014
16:43:22 <Bert>     http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/sophia-2014
16:43:31 <dael> glazou: gregwhitworth to register you need to add your name to the wiki
16:43:36 <dael> gregwhitworth: How to you do that?
16:43:47 <fantasai> http://test.csswg.org/shepherd/
16:43:54 <dael> plinss: Use w3c.org or sheppard credentials. It's a bit tricky, but we had a lot of spam.
16:43:56 <dael> gregwhitworth: Thanks.
16:44:02 <Bert> (If you can't use the wiki, send me e-mail, and I'll edit the page.)
16:44:09 <dael> glazou: The main page of the wiki says how to register through sheppard.
16:44:18 <adenilson> bye.
16:44:19 <dael> glazou: Thank you for today and I'll see you next week.
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