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15:59:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
15:59:14 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:59:14 <trackbot> Date: 17 July 2014
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15:59:38 <Zakim> +Sam
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16:00:26 <janina__> zakim, ??P2 is me
16:00:26 <Zakim> +janina__; got it
16:00:48 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html
16:00:51 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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16:00:57 <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft is me
16:00:57 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
16:01:07 <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
16:01:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:01:11 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:01:11 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:01:12 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:01:12 <trackbot> Date: 17 July 2014
16:01:23 <Zakim> + +1.425.869.aaaa
16:01:29 <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
16:01:30 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:01:36 <jaymunro> zakim, aaaa is me
16:01:36 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
16:01:39 <paulc> zakim, meeting code?
16:01:39 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:01:39 <janina__> code?
16:01:43 <janina__> zakim, code?
16:01:43 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), janina__
16:02:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:17 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, ShaneM, janina__, Eliot, jaymunro, [Microsoft]
16:02:26 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:02:26 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:03:03 <Zakim> +glenn
16:04:34 <paulc> scribenick: paulc
16:04:57 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html
16:05:04 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html
16:05:22 <paulc> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, July 17
16:05:25 <paulc> None.
16:05:45 <paulc> Topic: Decisions this week
16:05:55 <paulc> WG decision to publish <picture> as a WG Note
16:05:57 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0011.html
16:06:04 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0030.html
16:06:42 <paulc> May hold this up to get srcset WG Note before the WG
16:06:49 <paulc> Topic: New Calls this week
16:07:05 <paulc> CfC: Request transition of HTML5 to Candidate Recommendation
16:07:06 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0012.html
16:07:40 <paulc> Some discussion about whether a TR page document should have been published instead of using a candidate draft.
16:08:24 <paulc> Shane: Should the Acknowledgement section say anything about Microdata development especially since it is no longer in the spec.
16:08:47 <paulc> Paul: Didn't Microdata move off the Rec track.
16:08:57 <paulc> Sam: We previously asked that this material be removed.
16:09:11 <paulc> Sam:  Shane:  Please open a bug if you want about this.
16:09:32 <paulc> Topic: Testing Task Force
16:09:47 <paulc> No new news.
16:10:05 <paulc> Topic: Accessibility Task Force
16:10:50 <paulc> janina: using Alt in HTML5 publication has been held up since the Status section is inappropriate for a WG Note.  It represented itself as an Editors draft.
16:11:38 <paulc> Janina: The TF facilitators are going to fix this text before the publication.
16:12:01 <paulc> Janina: No new CfCs are required.  Just fixing the STOD.
16:12:17 <paulc> ... 2nd item was status of longdesc
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16:15:21 <paulc_> scribenick: paulc_
16:15:23 <paulc_> ... janina is working on a response to the objection received on the TF CfC
16:15:38 <paulc_> ... TF also discussed access keys and date pickers today
16:15:48 <paulc_> ... possible work on an exstension spec on access keys
16:16:14 <rubys> s/exstension/extension/
16:16:18 <paulc_> Topic: Media Task Force
16:16:46 <paulc_> Paul: MSE heartbeat will be published today (not yet visible on TR page)
16:17:09 <paulc_> ... EME is down to 21 bugs and summer vacations caused this week's TF meeting to be cancelled
16:17:34 <paulc_> ... TF has a EME use case Wiki that came out of the april f2f that needs to be reviewed
16:18:02 <paulc_> ... Media TF will meet next week to discuss new MSE bugs, MSE test cases and EME bugs
16:18:17 <paulc_> ... TF will likely meet every 2 weeks over the summer
16:19:01 <paulc_> Topic: Any other business
16:19:07 <paulc_> DOME 4 call for exclusions
16:19:13 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0006.html
16:19:16 <paulc_> s/DOME 4/DOM4/
16:19:47 <paulc_> HTML5 CR schedule
16:20:17 <paulc_> Looks like the CR schedule will end about the end of Aug (assuming current transition CfC passes)
16:20:51 <paulc_> If we exit HTML5 CR successfully then we would move on to PR in Sept
16:21:23 <paulc_> Paul: There are features at risk in the HTML5 spec but if there is no interop proof they can be dropped before moving to PR
16:21:32 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:21:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html paulc_
16:21:37 <paulc_> AOB?
16:22:21 <paulc_> Shane: PF WG question: DOM4 is proceeding.  PF WG has been asking for a feature for some time.
16:22:35 <glenn> q+
16:22:55 <paulc_> ... given that DOM4 is in one WG and DOM Events is outside the WG, where does PF WG ask for this feature.
16:23:18 <paulc_> paulc:  So when DOM4 was moved into the HTML WG it was done to solve the Normative Reference problem
16:23:40 <paulc_> ... we needed a stable DOM4 to permit HTML5 to progress
16:24:03 <paulc_> ... but the email list for discussion is still www-dom@w3.org (?)
16:24:03 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/
16:24:30 <paulc_> ... so I believe regardless of its status in the WG, I suggest PF WG ask their question on www-dom@w3.org
16:25:12 <paulc_> ... feel free to cross post to the DOM Events list but hopefully you will get the right answer
16:25:17 <rubys> ack next
16:25:31 <paulc_> Glenn: are there implementations of the feature.
16:26:08 <paulc_> Shane: The feature request being able to enumerate events
16:26:23 <glenn> that should read "enumerate event listeners"
16:26:42 <paulc_> Shane: There are hidden implementations of the ability enuerate but not a public interace or standard
16:26:52 <paulc_> s/enuerate/enumerate/
16:27:06 <rubys> s/interace/interface/
16:27:14 <glenn> ack glenn
16:27:25 <paulc_> Shane: Not currently exposes but it would be super useful for some PF WG use cases
16:27:32 <paulc_> s/exposes/exposed/
16:27:58 <paulc_> Shane: Original historical request for this enumeration ability occurred as early as 1999
16:28:13 <paulc_> Janina: Original use case was testing
16:28:40 <paulc_> Glenn:  Perhaps being able to enumerate event listeners that have been added is another use case
16:28:49 <paulc_> Sam: Any other AOB
16:28:53 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate minutes
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16:29:02 <paulc_> Topic: Chair and Scribe for next week
16:29:12 <paulc_> Paul will Chair next week.
16:29:20 <paulc_> Shane volunteered to scribe next week.
16:29:29 <paulc_> Topic: Adjournment
16:29:30 <Zakim> -jaymunro
16:29:32 <Zakim> -Sam
16:29:34 <paulc_> We are adjourned.
16:29:34 <Zakim> -janina__
16:29:37 <Zakim> -Eliot
16:29:39 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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16:29:48 <glenn> s/been added/been added by injected code, e.g., add-ons and extensions/
16:29:56 <glenn> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:29:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
16:32:47 <Zakim> -glenn
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16:32:48 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, ShaneM, janina__, Eliot, +1.425.869.aaaa, jaymunro, paulc, glenn
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