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14:03:09 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:03:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:03:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:03:14 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:03:14 <trackbot> Date: 10 July 2014
14:03:37 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:05:19 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Jul/0005.html
14:05:29 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:05:33 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:05:40 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:06:36 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
14:06:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:06:56 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:08:07 <r12a> zakim is on holiday today
14:08:22 <aphillip> close action-316
14:08:22 <trackbot> Closed action-316.
14:08:39 <aphillip> close action-317
14:08:39 <trackbot> Closed action-317.
14:08:54 <aphillip> close action-318
14:08:56 <trackbot> Closed action-318.
14:09:04 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:09:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:09:51 <koji> http://www.unicode.org/review/pri278/
14:09:55 <aphillip> koji: UTR50 public review is about to happen. See above
14:10:03 <aphillip> ... only three weeks
14:10:22 <aphillip> addison: will add to radar
14:10:58 <koji> The blog is here http://unicode-inc.blogspot.jp/2014/07/proposed-update-utr-50-unicode-vertical.html
14:11:04 <aphillip> Topic: RADAR
14:11:13 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar#Scheduled_Last_Call_reviews
14:13:11 <aphillip> Topic: CharMod
14:13:41 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/charmod-norm/
14:15:49 <aphillip> Topic: Korean Justification
14:15:59 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-cjk/2014JulSep/0002.html
14:16:23 <aphillip> koji: sent this out and haven't had time to digest responses
14:16:41 <aphillip> ... issue is that WG removed inter-ideograph justification
14:16:49 <aphillip> ... prefer automatic based on content language
14:16:55 <aphillip> ... and when content language is not available
14:17:05 <aphillip> ... want to do something "good for any language"
14:17:11 <aphillip> ... trying to figure out how to keep that goal
14:17:21 <aphillip> ... particularly between Chinese, Japanese, and Korean
14:17:37 <aphillip> ... need Korean input to make proposal
14:17:44 <aphillip> ... WG discussed status yesterday
14:18:05 <aphillip> ... some thought maybe bring inter-ideograph back
14:18:17 <aphillip> ... maybe translate English to Korean and send again
14:18:34 <aphillip> ... and see what comes back
14:18:56 <r12a> q+
14:19:04 <aphillip> ack r12a
14:19:33 <aphillip> richard: let's not mess around with language codes, forcing them to say something that they don't say
14:19:48 <aphillip> koji: agree
14:20:02 <aphillip> ... mozilla may have decided to go in this direction
14:20:16 <aphillip> ... others don't seem to be paying attention
14:21:07 <aphillip> richard: one case talking about korean using han only
14:21:15 <aphillip> ... and that was treated as "chinese"
14:22:24 <aphillip> addison: so if a language has one behavior, just fold it into "auto"
14:22:33 <aphillip> ... but if two behaviors need keywords
14:26:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:30:44 <aphillip> richard: perhaps ping Leandro for some info
14:32:48 <aphillip> action: koji: report back on korean justification when response received
14:32:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-319 - Report back on korean justification when response received [on Koji Ishii - due 2014-07-17].
14:33:37 <aphillip> koji: one more info
14:33:46 <aphillip> ... discussion on slowness of css-text
14:33:51 <aphillip> ... proposed to split
14:34:07 <aphillip> ... fantasai wants to keep together, proposed to move to CR by october
14:34:34 <aphillip> ... need to be quick
14:34:51 <aphillip> Topic: Encoding LC
14:34:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:35:19 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/25
14:39:17 <r12a> q+\
14:39:21 <r12a> q+
14:47:09 <aphillip>  # Historically many encodings had their names and labels (and sometimes # references to specifications) defined in the IANA Character Sets registry. # This specification supplants that registry.
15:00:36 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:00:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:01:16 <aphillip> JcK: helpful if there will be a summary ahead of the call
15:03:09 <aphillip> JcK: IETF is the week after next
15:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:04:51 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, JcK, Mati, Felix
15:05:01 <aphillip> Present+ Koji
15:05:06 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:05:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:05:39 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:05:39 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:05:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: koji: report back on korean justification when response received [1]
15:05:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/10-i18n-irc#T14-32-48