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13:02:39 <whyun> zakim, who is here?
13:02:39 <Zakim> sorry, whyun, I don't know what conference this is
13:02:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, whyun, Bin_Hu, datdoan, seanlin, shelly, evelyn, cpn, GaryChen, genelian, GinaYeh, jcverdie
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13:03:05 <jcverdie> Hi, I'm stuck in another meeting. Will try to join as soon as I can
13:03:56 <whyun> zakim, mute me
13:03:56 <Zakim> sorry, whyun, I don't know what conference this is
13:06:18 <Bin_Hu> RRSAgent, make log public
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13:06:39 <Bin_Hu> Zakim, who is on the bridge?
13:06:39 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Bin_Hu.
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13:10:45 <Bin_Hu> Chair: Bin_Hu
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13:10:53 <Bin_Hu> Scribe: Alex
13:10:59 <aldafu> scrive: aldafu
13:11:03 <aldafu> scribe: aldafu
13:11:17 <Bin_Hu> http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/track/actions/open
13:11:24 <cpn> ScribeNick: aldafu
13:13:51 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: regarding meeting during TPAC, it should be possible to share the meeting on monday with the public web and tv interest group
13:15:09 <aldafu> ... next agenda item is reviewing consolidated use cases
13:16:12 <Bin_Hu> http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Technical_Requirement
13:16:56 <aldafu> gene: I've added requirements to that new technical requierements page already
13:17:13 <aldafu> chris: me too
13:19:07 <aldafu> genelian: let me adress the ?? system, some channels are encrypted and decrypt card/module needs to be plugged into the tv. this is a common feature in lots of markets and needs to be supported
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13:19:32 <cpn> s/??/CAS/
13:20:39 <aldafu> cpn: i added more details to existing requirements
13:21:43 <aldafu> ... recording requirements updated to included a unique id for a program independent of it's scheduled air time
13:24:42 <aldafu> ... added parental controls to recorded programs, should be based on content not only aired time slot
13:25:36 <aldafu> ... also added API access to subtitles for accessability
13:26:09 <aldafu> ... clarification: the unique id for programs, is an unique instance which covers the uniqe airing of that single program
13:27:08 <aldafu> ... also added API access to time-shifted programs
13:27:36 <aldafu> ... it's meant as pause/playback support, not meant for recording
13:29:49 <aldafu> ... paused live playback should be able to to continue playback from the buffer or forward to the current live playback
13:30:40 <aldafu> paul_higgs: a second requirement might be needed to address this
13:31:59 <aldafu> ??: concerned that the scope of the API is to big
13:32:49 <aldafu> cpn: i agree, still think it's useful to gather as much as possible for the complete picture, doesn't mean the API has to cover all of this
13:33:16 <whyun> s/??/skim13
13:33:20 <GinaYeh> s/to/too/
13:33:22 <aldafu> s/scope of the API/scope of the requirements for the API/
13:34:32 <aldafu> paul_higgs: for parental controls, is there a requirement to block playback?
13:35:22 <aldafu> cpn: usually handled on platform level, usually by pin entry. not clear if it should happen on the app level instead.
13:36:22 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: current reqs for parental cover: 1) get info if channel is locked, 2) gives ability to unlock (either by platform or app)
13:36:47 <aldafu> s/current reqs/my understanding of current requirements/
13:37:06 <aldafu> s/parental cover/parental controls cover/
13:38:03 <aldafu> paul_higgs: has to be understood that channel locking needs to be handled by the platform
13:39:34 <aldafu> genelian_: from app level we need interface to enable/disable if program is shown on the screen
13:41:09 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: regarding timeshift/recording buffering: platform should provide cache/buffer. size of the cache should depend on platform
13:42:31 <aldafu> paul_higgs: might be good to have a section on device capabilities
13:43:39 <aldafu> cpn: i agree, i can add device capabilites as part of timeshift and recording requirement sections
13:44:52 <aldafu> cpn: for clarification, type and schema for media sources as part of channel requirements. what is this?
13:46:16 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: the schema denotes "protocol" type of URL, i.e. "tv://"
13:46:56 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: not sure it defines codec for the actual channel
13:47:30 <aldafu> paul_higgs: it's really only an identifiert, not adressing the payload
13:48:10 <aldafu> s/identifiert/identifier/
13:50:11 <aldafu> cpn: regarding triggered interactive overlay requirements, what does contextual information in content mean? mark regions in the content based on time?
13:50:45 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: triggers are based on content metadata
13:52:14 <aldafu> cpn: wonder if we need new requirements to expose segmentation with programs, for subsections based on time
13:52:33 <aldafu> cpn: I'll add those
13:54:32 <aldafu> paul_higgs: wonder if we should deal with picture in picture and captions? maybe that's dealed with in HTML5. might not need one though.
13:55:17 <aldafu> s/picture in picture/picture-in-picture/
13:57:10 <aldafu> genelian_: the captions requirement is meant for different subtitles in the program, the user should be able to switch between these
13:57:51 <aldafu> cpn: do we need define ways to expose timing informations for synchronization with second-screen devices?
13:57:56 <Bin_Hu> present+ Bin_Hu, cpn, aldafu, whyun, skim13, shelly, seanlin, paul_higgs, jcverdie, GinaYeh, genelian, GaryChen, evelyn, datdoan
13:59:03 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: handled in other groups already, gap analyzis available
14:00:10 <aldafu> genelian_: regarding EPG requirement, do we need API to be able to search in the EPG (e.g. by title or actor)? Or should the app handle this by its own?
14:01:00 <aldafu> paul_higgs: that app could handle this through a web search/REST call
14:01:15 <aldafu> s/that app/an app/
14:02:10 <aldafu> genelian_: certainly would make it easier to leave this out. just wanted to mention it for completeness.
14:04:25 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: next steps
14:04:44 <aldafu> ... adress actions, see above
14:05:43 <aldafu> ... till the next call, rethink requirements and review again?
14:06:16 <aldafu> genelian_: I think we can start spec writing, it's good to have a first version based on current requirments
14:06:43 <aldafu> Bin_Hu: I think that's good, let's to both in parallel and gather comments
14:07:31 <aldafu> genelian_ I can you provide first draft/skeleton for a specification
14:07:51 <aldafu> s/I can you/I can/
14:08:32 <Bin_Hu> Since we will have f2f on Oct 27, please start to plan your travel for TPAC
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14:09:26 <Bin_Hu> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:09:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/08-tvapi-minutes.html Bin_Hu
14:10:42 <genelian_> Thank you Bin and Alex!
14:24:44 <cpn> Meeting: TV Control API CG
14:25:46 <cpn> rrsagent: draft minutes
14:25:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/08-tvapi-minutes.html cpn
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