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13:58:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
13:58:35 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
13:58:36 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:58:36 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2014
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14:00:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:00:49 <Arnaud> zakim. ipcaller is me
14:01:10 <Arnaud> zakim: ipcaller is me
14:01:21 <Arnaud> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:01:21 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
14:02:19 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
14:02:28 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher
14:02:36 <Zakim> +Roger
14:02:42 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me
14:02:42 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
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14:03:04 <Zakim> +ericP
14:03:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:03:54 <betehess> Zakim, IPcaller is Alexandre
14:03:54 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
14:04:48 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:04:58 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:04:58 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:05:04 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:05:04 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:05:22 <Zakim> +??P12
14:05:31 <nmihindu> Zakim, P12 is me
14:05:31 <Zakim> sorry, nmihindu, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
14:05:39 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
14:05:39 <Zakim> sorry, nmihindu, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:05:50 <ericP> Zakim, ??P12 is nmihindu
14:05:50 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
14:06:01 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
14:06:01 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted
14:06:30 <roger> Scribe: Roger
14:06:31 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:06:57 <Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-06-30
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14:09:14 <roger> The next call will be next week.
14:09:19 <roger> Topic: Actions
14:09:26 <Zakim> +bblfish
14:09:27 <roger> any open actions ?
14:09:43 <bblfish> hi
14:10:07 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:10:07 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
14:11:16 <roger> Ashok welcomes Tailted to comment on the AccessControl document.
14:11:20 <SteveS> Access Control use cases https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html
14:13:15 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
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14:14:28 <roger> Action 83 has been closed.
14:14:28 <trackbot> Error finding '83'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/users>.
14:14:44 <nmihindu> we had two issues reported against the primer (1) some issues with the JSON-LD examples (2) comments emailing list was incorrectly set to the WG only email list
14:14:56 <JohnArwe> zakim, close action-83
14:14:57 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close action-83', JohnArwe
14:14:59 <roger> Topic: Issue 99, regarding JSON-LD examples in the Primer
14:15:00 <Ashok> Action-83 has been closed
14:15:02 <nmihindu> Arnaud, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version?
14:15:10 <nmihindu> If not, we can correct those issues and go for another quick draft
14:15:14 <JohnArwe> trackbot, close action-83
14:15:14 <trackbot> Closed action-83.
14:15:42 <JohnArwe> issue-99?
14:15:42 <trackbot> issue-99 -- Validate the JSON-LD examples of the primer -- raised
14:15:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/99
14:15:54 <nmihindu> Arnaud, sure.
14:16:04 <bblfish> action-83?
14:16:04 <trackbot> action-83 -- Roger Menday to Ensure ISSUE-62 is addressed in Primer or Best Practices & Guidelines doc -- due 2013-06-27 -- CLOSED
14:16:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/83
14:16:56 <roger> is there a problem to fix the JSON-LD examples in Primer ?
14:17:21 <Zakim> +??P16
14:17:31 <nmihindu> Arnaud, yes. Just one question. Can we update the comments email in the published version ?
14:18:26 <roger> Arnaud proposes to close issue 99 immediately, with yes yes ...
14:18:28 <bblfish> hi
14:18:35 <bblfish> q+
14:18:52 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
14:19:32 <betehess> that's a lot of trouble because you need to provide a shape for the json...
14:19:39 <nmihindu> bblfish, yes. But the automatic generation is really bulcky
14:20:03 <JohnArwe> you'd also be dependent on it working in the viewer's favorite browser (version) - bane of all web apps
14:20:06 <roger> bblfish suggests automatic turtle -> json-ld translator ...
14:20:52 <nmihindu> ericp, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version?
14:21:37 <roger> primer was published, but with the incorrect email for comments. would like to change that ...
14:22:36 <roger> Topic: Paging
14:23:01 <nmihindu> ericP, if we have to publish a new version please give us a heads up. May be we can fix the JSON examples before that too.
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14:23:24 <roger> Arnaud, have resolutions from last week been integrated in to Paging spec ?
14:24:56 <roger> JohnAwre, not quite ... will do it this week.
14:26:32 <roger> Arnaud requests everyone to review the Paging spec once John has updated it.
14:26:54 <roger> ... and would like to make a rapid progress with that document into Last Call
14:27:00 <SteveS> I will take another hard pass through paging as well, looks like I might have time this week or next
14:28:06 <roger> Topic: Any progress reports about Implementations ?
14:28:30 <roger> SteveS, only received impl reports about 1 impl
14:28:54 <roger> ... but, there are 2 or 3 other ones in the pipeline ...
14:29:10 <roger> .... but, these are not quite ready yet.
14:29:48 <nmihindu> Basically for the reasons mentioned by SteveS
14:30:02 <bblfish> I am getting back into programming, so I should be able to get this done.
14:30:35 <nmihindu> we are in the middle of the implementation and would like to submit the report when we are done
14:30:48 <nmihindu> we will not implement IC for the moment
14:31:58 <SteveS> roger, have you used the test suite and plan to send an impl report?
14:32:30 <roger> unless the IC is implemented, we might have to lose it from the spec
14:32:59 <bblfish> Ok, I can have a look at what needs to be done to implement it
14:34:23 <nmihindu> Arnaud, yes. we didn't really have use cases for IC,
14:34:29 <bblfish> I am a developer and I understand http range-14
14:34:39 <nmihindu> in LDP4j
14:35:25 <roger> Topic: Test cases
14:36:26 <roger> SteveS, there are some new tests which have been proposed by the Madrid team recently
14:37:10 <roger> Arnaud, please provide feedback about the tests ...
14:37:19 <roger> Topic: Access Control
14:37:28 <roger> Ashok has moved the document into Mecurial
14:37:34 <roger> don't edit the wiki anymore
14:37:46 <SteveS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html
14:38:54 <roger> ashok please add a link to the wiki page to the new address
14:39:02 <roger> Topic: BP&G
14:39:18 <roger> Cody not on call ...
14:39:29 <roger> Topic: 209
14:40:09 <Zakim> -Alexandre
14:40:44 <roger> ericP: it is out as a draft and has some comments
14:41:30 <roger> request to ericp to send link for the mailing list archive ...
14:41:38 <roger> ... where the 209 discussion is going on
14:41:54 <Zakim> + +1.857.928.aaaa
14:43:00 <betehess> Zakim, aaaa is Alexandre
14:43:00 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
14:43:03 <JohnArwe> zakim, aaaa is betehess
14:43:03 <Zakim> sorry, JohnArwe, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
14:43:30 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:43:53 <Arnaud> sorry, call dropped, calling back
14:44:22 <Arnaud> well, trying...
14:45:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:45:42 <Arnaud> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:45:42 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
14:46:13 <roger> Topic: LD PATCH
14:47:33 <SteveS> What is the right link again?  This one right? http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/
14:48:20 <roger> Pierre-Antoine, it is waiting for review ...
14:48:57 <betehess> the draft for LD Patch is at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html  -- Pierre-Antoine's version was tied to his implementation
14:48:57 <betehess> github repo is at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch
14:48:58 <betehess> the plan is to move it to dvcs.w3.org as soon as we are done with the operational semantics, which is almost there (just missing the full UpdateList semantics)
14:48:58 <betehess> q+
14:49:30 <SteveS> Arnaud, the link in the agenda isn’t right then
14:49:44 <Arnaud> ack betehess
14:50:58 <roger> SteveS, is there a test suite for LD-PATCH ? Betehess, yes, there is, and it can be contributed to the LDP testsuite.
14:52:13 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:52:19 <Zakim> -SteveS
14:52:22 <Zakim> -Roger
14:52:24 <Zakim> -bblfish
14:52:25 <Zakim> -Alexandre
14:52:26 <betehess> in my case, I NEED something complete and close to the spec being written :-)
14:52:27 <Zakim> -TallTed
14:52:29 <Zakim> -ericP
14:52:30 <Zakim> -??P0
14:52:31 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:52:32 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
14:54:06 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
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