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13:09:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:09:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes
13:09:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:09:26 <trackbot> Date: 02 July 2014
13:25:16 <shadi> Agenda+ 'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics [all]
13:25:16 <shadi> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Way-Finding [christos, vivienne, annika]
13:25:16 <shadi> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [shadi, klaus]
13:25:16 <shadi> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Big Data [all]
13:25:16 <shadi> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Wearables [markel]
13:25:17 <shadi> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Web Inclusion [all]
13:25:19 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status:  Metrics  [markel, giorgio]
13:25:21 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Mobile [sharper-email]
13:25:23 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Text Customisation [david, shawn]
13:25:27 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Easy to Read [bim, klaus]
13:25:29 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: User Modeling [yehya, christos]
13:25:31 <shadi> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: eLearning [justin, silvia]
13:26:16 <shadi> regrets: Simon, Annika, Giorgio, Markel, Silvia
13:28:04 <Luz> Luz has joined #rd
13:28:17 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
13:28:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:28:52 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:28:52 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:28:53 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:29:18 <Luz> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
13:29:18 <Zakim> +Luz; got it
13:30:30 <sloandr> sloandr has joined #rd
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13:30:47 <Bim> zakim, call bim-617
13:30:47 <Zakim> ok, Bim; the call is being made
13:30:49 <Zakim> +Bim
13:30:51 <Vivienne> Vivienne has joined #rd
13:31:00 <Bim> zakim, mute me
13:31:00 <Zakim> Bim should now be muted
13:31:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:31:32 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:31:32 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
13:31:54 <Zakim> +[FIT]
13:31:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:32:13 <sloandr> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:32:13 <Zakim> +sloandr; got it
13:32:16 <Yehya> zakim, [FIT] is me
13:32:16 <Zakim> +Yehya; got it
13:32:18 <Luz> Zakim, mute me
13:32:18 <Zakim> Luz should now be muted
13:32:29 <sloandr> Zakim, mute me
13:32:29 <Zakim> sloandr should now be muted
13:32:40 <sloandr> just got to answer the door, back in a minute
13:32:46 <Luz> Yes
13:32:50 <Luz> :)
13:32:52 <Luz> Yes!!!!
13:33:02 <Luz> Zakim, unmute me
13:33:02 <Zakim> Luz should no longer be muted
13:33:06 <Yehya> congrats to Luz
13:33:09 <shadi> scribe: Luz
13:33:11 <Luz> Zakim, mute me
13:33:11 <Zakim> Luz should now be muted
13:33:15 <shadi> agenda?
13:33:22 <Luz> Zakim, next item
13:33:22 <Zakim> agendum 1. "'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics" taken up [from all]
13:34:04 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 4
13:34:04 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Symposium Status: Big Data" taken up [from all via shadi]
13:34:06 <Luz> Shadi: first 3 points in agenda.
13:34:38 <Luz> Big day is something important in accessibility? Opportunities of big data in Accessibility?
13:34:52 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
13:34:52 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
13:35:08 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Big_Data_for_Accessibility
13:35:17 <Luz> Any interesting articles/person who can imput opotunities on Bida Data and Accessibility?
13:35:36 <Luz> Big Data vs. Open Big data and separate that from Way finding.
13:35:52 <Luz> zakim, mute me
13:35:52 <Zakim> Luz was already muted, Luz
13:35:59 <Luz> Zakim, unmute me
13:35:59 <Zakim> Luz should no longer be muted
13:36:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:36:05 <Luz> Zakim, next item
13:36:06 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 9
13:36:06 <Zakim> agendum 1. "'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics" taken up [from all]
13:36:06 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Note Edit Status: Text Customisation" taken up [from david, shawn via shadi]
13:36:07 <Justin> Justin has joined #rd
13:36:07 <sloandr> zakim, unmute me
13:36:08 <Zakim> sloandr should no longer be muted
13:36:20 <Luz> Dave: no updates about text customization.
13:36:34 <Luz> Dave: We will be working on it this month.
13:36:48 <Luz> (ok)
13:37:00 <sloandr> zakim, mute me
13:37:00 <Zakim> sloandr should now be muted
13:37:04 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 10
13:37:04 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Note Edit Status: Easy to Read" taken up [from bim, klaus via shadi]
13:37:25 <Luz> Easy to read, we got a review which Klaus has.
13:37:46 <Luz> Many readablity issues (too long parapgraphs).
13:38:56 <Luz> How did that happen? Maybe we (researchers) are used to complicated language. But the audience here will be quite broad so we need to keep in mind the readablity aspects of our reports.
13:39:06 <sloandr> +1 to focus on clarity of writing in all RDWG output
13:39:09 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 11
13:39:09 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Note Edit Status: User Modeling" taken up [from yehya, christos via shadi]
13:39:51 <Luz> Yehya: He has done soem editting on the User Modeling note. Waiting for more comments.
13:40:55 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 12
13:40:55 <Zakim> agendum 12. "Note Edit Status: eLearning" taken up [from justin, silvia via shadi]
13:41:03 <Luz> Yehya: He will let the group know about anyupdates.
13:41:23 <Luz> Justin: Silvia and him have been working on the eLearnign notw.
13:42:18 <sloandr> yes, we're using the wiki
13:42:33 <Luz> David and Shawn are usign the wiki for direct editings/
13:42:38 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
13:42:38 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Symposium Status: Way-Finding" taken up [from christos, vivienne, annika via shadi]
13:42:48 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
13:42:48 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
13:42:50 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
13:43:28 <Luz> Vivienne: the last meeting we had we discussed about the catalog entry.
13:43:52 <Luz> Vivienne: We will work on the format of the symposium entries.
13:44:36 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/rdsymposia.html
13:44:43 <Luz> Shadi: There is already information in the wiki about the symposia pages.
13:45:28 <Luz> Vivienne: I am concerned about the timeline for the symposium.
13:46:42 <Luz> Shadi: Who else is working in the field on this topic to include them?
13:47:57 <Luz> Shadi: Meet a researcher (charlotte?) on way finding who might worth to get in touch with.
13:48:40 <Luz> Vivienne: is contacting people in Australia for applied research.
13:49:15 <Luz> Shadi: Let keep watchign out for things that can be related to accessible way finding.
13:49:32 <Luz> Shadi: Lets work on research questions a little bit more.
13:51:19 <Luz> Vivienne: Please put me in touch with any people who work in the area.
13:51:30 <Luz> Yes
13:51:32 <Luz> Zakim, unmute me
13:51:32 <Zakim> Luz was not muted, Luz
13:52:10 <Luz> Zakim, mute me
13:52:10 <Zakim> Luz should now be muted
13:52:32 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
13:52:32 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Symposium Status: Web-of-Things" taken up [from shadi, klaus via shadi]
13:52:43 <Luz> Luz: I know Anke Brock. She recently finsihed her PhD in way finding using maps.
13:53:14 <Luz> "Interactive Maps for Visually Impaired People"
13:54:14 <Luz> Shadi: There are many efforts on the Web-of-Things, far for mature applications.
13:54:29 <Luz> eg: better models to address privacy and security.
13:54:54 <Luz> There is not many effort in accessibility, it seems that heve been forgoten.
13:55:08 <Luz> Maybe because people did not undestand the relevance of accessibility.
13:55:58 <Luz> Eg. Data format need to be adapted for accessibility.
13:57:02 <Luz> Eg: Alternative interfaces (principles of accessibility).
13:57:22 <Luz> Mature accessibility models (privacy, security).
13:58:28 <Luz> Another issue in that it was assumed that accessiblity only need to be address in the UI level, and we need to be convincing on the other aspects, such as use cases.
13:58:58 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
13:58:58 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
13:59:17 <Luz> Because use cases might bring things that can be beneficial for other users.
13:59:33 <sloandr> q+
13:59:38 <Luz> Yehya: We agree with your point, Shadi.
14:01:16 <Luz> This is one the most urgent areas: it is not a matter of the interface but data and services.
14:01:22 <Luz> eg: way finding.
14:02:20 <Luz> Shadi: There is a lot of research on smart homes (strong from the accessiblity point of views).
14:02:30 <Luz> eg: detect if somebody fall, etc.
14:04:14 <sloandr> zakim, ack me
14:04:14 <Zakim> unmuting sloandr
14:04:15 <Luz> Yehya: The are novelties in ambient accessibility
14:04:16 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:05:48 <Luz> David: Accessility is not asummed to be core when thinking in innovation.
14:06:33 <Luz> Shadi: Remind people about accessiblity, such as with the web of things.
14:06:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/media-accessibility-reqs/
14:07:39 <Luz> Shadi: this is a collection of use cases for making media accessible.
14:07:53 <sloandr> current draft of Tips for Accessibility-Aware Research: https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Tips_for_Accessibility-Aware_Research
14:09:51 <Luz> Shadi: The use case are inspirations because can have a benefits to other users. Interaction between accessitility and improving the experience of everybody else.
14:10:32 <Luz> Dave: The link was last updated in W4A.
14:11:10 <Luz> Shadi: Any more ideas?
14:11:22 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:11:22 <Zakim> agendum 1. "'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics" taken up [from all via shadi]
14:11:54 <Luz> Shadi:  Any further ideas for this topics?
14:12:31 <Luz> Yehya mentioned wereables (innotations related to the web of things)
14:12:49 <Luz> Shadi: We need to keep in mind the cross relation of the topics.
14:13:04 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
14:13:04 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
14:13:05 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:13:22 <Bim> zakim, unmute me
14:13:22 <Zakim> Bim should no longer be muted
14:13:24 <Luz> Enjoy ICCHP!
14:13:32 <Justin> catcha
14:13:37 <Vivienne> good night all
14:13:44 <Zakim> -Yehya
14:13:45 <Luz> Bye bye.
14:13:45 <Zakim> -Bim
14:13:45 <Luz> Thank you.
14:13:46 <Zakim> -sloandr
14:13:48 <Zakim> -Vivienne
14:13:49 <Zakim> -Luz
14:13:53 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:21:00 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
14:21:01 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:21:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Luz, Bim, Vivienne, sloandr, Yehya, [IPcaller]
14:29:04 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:29:04 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:29:04 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:29:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:29:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/02-rd-minutes.html trackbot
14:29:13 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:29:13 <RRSAgent> I see no action items