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15:24:04 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:24:04 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 36 minutes
15:25:11 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:  Jim Allen, John Rochford, Debra Ruh,Kinshuk,John Foliot
15:25:25 <Lisa_Seeman> chair: Lisa_Seeman
15:36:49 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:  Neil Milliken
15:52:10 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
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15:57:16 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P5 is Lisa_Seeman
15:57:16 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
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15:59:02 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:  Kinshuk
15:59:42 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
15:59:42 <Zakim> +KateDeibel; got it
15:59:46 <KateDeibel> zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
15:59:46 <Zakim> I already had ??P11 as KateDeibel, KateDeibel
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16:04:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +1.512.445.aaaa is SusannKeohane
16:04:02 <Zakim> +SusannKeohane; got it
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16:05:09 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who's here?
16:05:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane
16:05:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see ddahl, Susann_Keohane, MaryJo, KateDeibel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, Barry, janina, slee, trackbot
16:05:35 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
16:05:49 <Lisa_Seeman> I dont think we have enough for quorm
16:06:43 <Lisa_Seeman> so lets go over the aging subgroup
16:06:51 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:08:01 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Mary_Jo_Mueller,
16:08:07 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
16:08:17 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
16:08:37 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
16:08:49 <MaryJo> topic: Review of Aging & Dementia sub-group wiki information
16:09:15 <Zakim> +Joseph_O´Conno
16:11:11 <MaryJo> Katie: We want to know if this is the right level of content in the section.
16:12:21 <Zakim> +??P6
16:12:44 <slee> sorry I'm late
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16:13:11 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P6 is slee
16:13:11 <Zakim> +slee; got it
16:13:50 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:14:45 <slee> Hi richardschwerdtfeger
16:15:25 <Lisa_Seeman> Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
16:15:41 <Lisa_Seeman> Symptoms: Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
16:17:47 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:19:24 <Lisa_Seeman> Characteristics of Content Optimized for Aging and Dementia
16:19:29 <Lisa_Seeman> a bit cofucing
16:19:36 <MaryJo> LS: Give more context on the repeated sub-headings as they get confusing
16:20:00 <Zakim> +Cooper
16:20:12 <MaryJo> LS: ICT challenges should be only technology challenges instead of things like losing keys.
16:20:45 <MaryJo> LS: The more you can put into the ICT challenges and user stories, the better.
16:22:01 <janina> zakim, call janina
16:22:01 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
16:22:02 <Zakim> +Janina
16:22:14 <MaryJo> LS: For someone with Alzheimers, larger fonts is an issue, but if it is a setting or a step they have to do to increase the font it can be an issue because it adds another step to remember.
16:22:30 <janina> zakim, mute me
16:22:30 <Zakim> Janina should now be muted
16:22:57 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:23:07 <MaryJo> LS: for how they use the web section. Where do people with alzheimers give up, what are they avoiding because it is too hard to do?
16:23:47 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#citation
16:24:21 <MaryJo> LS: Follow W3C guidance on how to cite materials.
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16:25:08 <KateDeibel> q+
16:25:37 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Challenges
16:27:06 <MaryJo> KD: Has references of recent papers of what people with aging and dementia want in technology.  Will send these to the list after the call.
16:28:26 <MaryJo> LS: Could brainstorm what could be done in Web content for people who are aging or have dementia.
16:28:55 <MaryJo> LS: Reading is one of the last capabilities to go, so having symbols along with text is best.
16:29:40 <MaryJo> LS: Have less function per screen or page.  Essential interface is less confusing
16:30:22 <MaryJo> LS: Have a very standard interface. Easier to remember.
16:31:43 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
16:31:43 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:33:41 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jun/0043.html
16:34:12 <MaryJo> topic: Adaptable web content
16:34:56 <MaryJo> LS: There may be different user needs per disability type.  It is important to understand what optimized content is best for each of the groups.
16:35:28 <MaryJo> LS: Also to know what semantics are needed for each of the groups.
16:37:08 <MaryJo> LS: If you've got a page and want a way to make a standard menu that is usable by people with dementia, or another cognitive disability.  What would that look like?
16:37:14 <richardschwerdtfeger> Here is the floe project: http://www.floeproject.org/
16:37:30 <richardschwerdtfeger> click on the show display preferences
16:38:05 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.aiu.ac.jp/~naganuma/basicinternetvocab.html
16:38:20 <Zakim> -slee
16:38:31 <MaryJo> LS: Standard symbol semantics and vocabulary could be helpful.
16:38:39 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
16:40:14 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:40:24 <Lisa_Seeman> ack kate
16:42:27 <MaryJo> KD: We could categories for available technologies - like which make content adaptable, etc.
16:44:22 <MaryJo> KD: Standard readability metrics focus on the text not the reader.
16:45:34 <MaryJo> KD: Sentence length would likely have an effect on readability and understandability.
16:46:57 <MaryJo> LS: We could put together a page of what's useful to make content adaptable.
16:47:47 <MaryJo> LS: Will make a first pass on creating the adaptable page.
16:49:18 <MaryJo> SK: Once the page is started it's easier to contribute.  We can collect technologies on the page and everyone can look to see if they have anything to contribute.
16:50:00 <MaryJo> topic: HTML 5 wishlist
16:50:20 <MaryJo> LS: The current list is what PF wants
16:50:20 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
16:50:53 <MaryJo> LS: Please take a look from our task force's perspective
16:53:51 <Zakim> -Debbie_Dahl
16:53:52 <Zakim> -KateDeibel
16:53:53 <MaryJo> zakim, bye
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16:53:54 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Debbie_Dahl, Joseph_O´Conno, slee, Rich_Schwerdtfeger,
16:53:54 <Zakim> ... Cooper, Janina
16:53:58 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
16:53:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/30-coga-minutes.html MaryJo
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17:03:06 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Introduction#B._Addressing_specific_topics
17:10:46 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
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