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16:53:16 <LJWatson> zakim, this will be 2119
16:53:16 <Zakim> ok, LJWatson; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)1:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
16:53:28 <LJWatson> Meeting: HTML A11y Bug triage telecon
16:53:33 <LJWatson> Chair: Léonie Watson
16:53:35 <LJWatson> Agenda+ Bug 26059 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059
16:53:51 <LJWatson> Agenda+ HTML5.0 a11ytf bugs http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50
16:54:02 <LJWatson> Agenda+ HTML A11y TF component bugs http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent
16:54:10 <LJWatson> Agenda+ HTML5.1 a11ytf bugs http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51
16:54:18 <LJWatson> zakim, save agenda
16:54:25 <Zakim> ok, LJWatson, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-agenda.rdf
16:55:59 <LJWatson> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
16:59:29 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)1:00PM has now started
16:59:36 <Zakim> +Mark_Sadecki
17:00:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:01:06 <Zakim> +Adrian_Roselli
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17:01:36 <Zakim> +Joseph_O´Conno
17:02:02 <MarkS> zakim, [IPcaller is Leonie
17:02:02 <Zakim> +Leonie; got it
17:02:21 <MarkS> scribe: MarkS
17:02:30 <MarkS> zakim, agenda?
17:02:30 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
17:02:31 <Zakim> 1. Bug 26059 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 [from LJWatson]
17:02:31 <Zakim> 2. HTML5.0 a11ytf bugs http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50 [from LJWatson]
17:02:31 <Zakim> 3. HTML A11y TF component bugs http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent [from LJWatson]
17:02:31 <Zakim> 4. HTML5.1 a11ytf bugs http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51 [from LJWatson]
17:02:34 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 1
17:02:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Bug 26059 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:03:16 <MarkS> LW: related to longdesc
17:03:39 <MarkS> ...had a conversation with Steve who recommended I ping Robin who has take this on.  think we should follow this one
17:04:25 <MarkS> MS: I will take a closer look at this.  I thought this was something we already took care of.
17:04:31 <MarkS> ...thanks for bringing it to my attention
17:04:49 <MarkS> ACTION: MarkS to follow up on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059
17:04:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-270 - Follow up on https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-07-02].
17:04:56 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
17:04:56 <Zakim> agendum 2. "HTML5.0 a11ytf bugs http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:06:01 <MarkS> still zero bugs
17:06:16 <MarkS> LW: We now have officially cleared all HTML5 a11y related bugs
17:06:20 <MarkS> [cheers]
17:06:30 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
17:06:30 <Zakim> agendum 3. "HTML A11y TF component bugs http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:07:23 <MarkS> LW: these are the bugs that are in limbo.  the TF needs to reassess the value of these bugs and decide if they need to be reopened or not, if so, add updated information
17:07:32 <MarkS> ...we haven't really looked at these yet
17:08:24 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13550
17:08:36 <MarkS> type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based on list attribute
17:09:35 <MarkS> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-input-element
17:12:02 <aardrian> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#attr-input-type
17:17:24 <MarkS> MS: Wondering if we can address this with just text rather than complicating this table with another column just for this one use case.
17:17:46 <MarkS> ...it might fight nicely after the spec states that the default is the Text state
17:18:20 <MarkS> LW: perhaps we should update the bug with a pointer to these minutes
17:19:14 <MarkS> ACTION: MarkS to change the component to 5.1 and reference these minutes
17:19:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-271 - Change the component to 5.1 and reference these minutes [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-07-02].
17:19:40 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449
17:19:48 <MarkS>  Don't allow blank alt text on area elements
17:20:43 <MarkS> MS: We need a test case.  Chaals said he would do that in MArch
17:20:51 <MarkS> LW: anyone want to take that on?
17:22:24 <MarkS> AR: I would like to read through this bug more closely before I take that on.
17:23:31 <MarkS> MS: We can ask for takers in the TF call tomorrow
17:24:16 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590
17:24:33 <MarkS> VHA Comments on HTML5 Draft Specification
17:29:50 <MarkS> LW: Might be a good idea to put all of the individual bugs in the TF component and triage them individually
17:30:42 <MarkS> ACTION: LJWatson to update the component on all bugs referenced in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to TF Component
17:30:42 <trackbot> Error finding 'LJWatson'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/users>.
17:30:49 <MarkS> ACTION: LWatson to update the component on all bugs referenced in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to TF Component
17:30:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-272 - Update the component on all bugs referenced in https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to tf component [on Léonie Watson - due 2014-07-02].
17:31:26 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23027
17:31:30 <MarkS> ARIA: select and option should allow role overrides of menu and menuitem
17:35:50 <MarkS> MS: might be something we want to squeeze into 5.0
17:35:56 <MarkS> LW: Let's bring this up on the call tomorrow
17:36:31 <MarkS> LW: 13461 we are just waiting for progress on longdesc for this one
17:36:54 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23284
17:37:02 <MarkS> Accesskey should be translatable
17:37:20 <MarkS> MS: chaals is supposed to report on accesskey for a 5.1 action item
17:37:27 <MarkS> LW: we can just sit on this one then
17:37:54 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572
17:37:58 <MarkS> 4.10.19 aborting autofocus based on user choice not optional
17:43:23 <MarkS> [discussion questioning if any browsers already do this and if not, seems moot.  should see if UAAG recommends this feature in UAs]
17:43:37 <MarkS> MS: should we bring this up in the meeting tomorrow
17:45:01 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639
17:45:14 <MarkS> CSS2 System Colors Should Be Recognized
17:51:03 <MarkS> LW: lets leave this one with Janina for a bit longer
17:51:35 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
17:51:35 <Zakim> agendum 4. "HTML5.1 a11ytf bugs http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:52:55 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16186
17:52:59 <MarkS> HTML 5 missing explicit directives for support full keyboard access (FKA) when navigating to a fragment identifier
17:55:42 <MarkS> LW: I will ping James on list to see if he can suggest spec text that would clear this issue up
17:56:10 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508
17:56:14 <MarkS> Fully support tri-state and indeterminate controls
17:59:14 <MarkS> AR: If the spec doesn't point to a mixed state solution using an aria, then this is an editorial change
18:00:18 <MarkS> LW: I will look more closely at this tomorrow and add comments
18:00:46 <MarkS> ACTION: LWatson to look more closely at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments
18:00:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-273 - Look more closely at https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add comments [on Léonie Watson - due 2014-07-02].
18:00:50 <Zakim> -Leonie
18:00:51 <Zakim> -Joseph_O´Conno
18:00:53 <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
18:00:53 <Zakim> -Adrian_Roselli
18:00:54 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)1:00PM has ended
18:00:54 <Zakim> Attendees were Mark_Sadecki, [IPcaller], Adrian_Roselli, Joseph_O´Conno, Leonie
18:01:00 <MarkS> rrsagent, make minutes
18:01:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MarkS
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