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12:48:15 <PhilA> zakim, this will be DWBP
12:48:15 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
12:48:21 <PhilA> chair: Hadley
12:49:10 <PhilA> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140620
12:49:30 <PhilA> regrets+ Antoine, Christophe, Jeremy, Bernadette
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12:57:29 <PhilA> regrets+ Carlos, Steve, Ivan
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12:59:09 <HadleyBeeman> trackbot, start meeting
12:59:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
12:59:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
12:59:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
12:59:14 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:59:14 <trackbot> Date: 20 June 2014
13:00:07 <HadleyBeeman> try again, bartvanleeuwen
13:00:13 <HadleyBeeman> I've just started the meeting properly
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13:00:36 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started
13:00:43 <Zakim> +??P8
13:01:01 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P8 is me
13:01:01 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
13:01:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:01:18 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:01:18 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
13:01:24 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
13:01:39 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140620
13:01:49 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen - is that with Skype
13:01:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:01:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me
13:01:57 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
13:01:59 <ericstephan> ericstephan has joined #dwbp
13:02:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA, nope voip
13:02:23 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aaaa
13:02:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I will be on a listen-only mode today, because I am in a shared room. So, I will be muted and intervene on IRC when necessary
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13:02:44 <BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA, zakim@voip.w3.org simply does not allow to connect
13:02:45 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
13:02:45 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
13:02:59 <Zakim> + +1.509.375.aabb
13:03:05 <Ig_Bittencourt> Ig_Bittencourt has joined #DWBP
13:03:29 <ericstephan> zakim, +.509.375 is me
13:03:29 <Zakim> sorry, ericstephan, I do not recognize a party named '+.509.375'
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13:03:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> :-)
13:03:40 <ericstephan> zakim, +1.509.375 is me
13:03:40 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
13:03:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can type
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13:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:04:14 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:04:14 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
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13:05:03 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
13:05:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), +1.617.646.aaaa, ericstephan, laufer
13:05:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see SumitPurohit, Makx_Dekkers, deirdrelee, markharrison, Ig_Bittencourt, EricKauz, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, laufer,
13:05:07 <Zakim> ... RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, trackbot
13:05:28 <Yaso> Yaso has joined #dwbp
13:05:40 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
13:05:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), +1.617.646.aaaa, ericstephan, laufer
13:05:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see Yaso, SumitPurohit, Makx_Dekkers, deirdrelee, markharrison, Ig_Bittencourt, EricKauz, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, laufer,
13:05:44 <Zakim> ... RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, trackbot
13:05:44 <SumitPurohit> zakim,aaaa is me
13:05:46 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit; got it
13:05:47 <Zakim> + +44.122.374.aacc
13:06:07 <markharrison> zakim, aacc is me
13:06:07 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it
13:06:12 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aadd
13:06:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:06:25 <Zakim> -laufer
13:06:38 <EricKauz> zakim, aacc is me
13:06:38 <Zakim> sorry, EricKauz, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
13:06:43 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
13:06:43 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
13:06:46 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
13:06:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), SumitPurohit, ericstephan, markharrison, +1.609.557.aadd, deirdrelee
13:06:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see Yaso, SumitPurohit, Makx_Dekkers, deirdrelee, markharrison, Ig_Bittencourt, EricKauz, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, laufer,
13:06:49 <Zakim> ... RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, trackbot
13:06:55 <EricKauz> zakim, aadd is me
13:06:55 <Zakim> +EricKauz; got it
13:07:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:07:06 <Zakim> +??P18
13:07:13 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:07:13 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
13:07:16 <Yaso> Zakim, +P18 is Yaso
13:07:16 <Zakim> sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named '+P18'
13:07:34 <Yaso> Zakim, P18 is Yaso
13:07:34 <Zakim> sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'P18'
13:07:37 <Zakim> +??P19
13:07:46 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p19 is me
13:07:46 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
13:08:01 <Yaso> Zakim, ??p18 is me
13:08:01 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it
13:08:43 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim
13:08:43 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose PhilA
13:09:02 <atemezi> atemezi has joined #dwbp
13:09:06 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
13:09:17 <laufer> zakim, mute me
13:09:17 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
13:09:30 <laufer> hi ghislain
13:09:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I need to leave early today so we'll either end early or Yaso will take over before the end
13:09:56 <PhilA> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-13
13:10:05 <Yaso> +1
13:10:06 <Ig_Bittencourt> Hi, today I am going to stay only on the irc.
13:10:07 <EricKauz> +1
13:10:08 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1
13:10:12 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
13:10:12 <atemezi> +1
13:10:16 <laufer> +1
13:10:21 <SumitPurohit> +1
13:10:26 <HadleyBeeman> +1
13:10:30 <PhilA> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-13
13:10:58 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Reminder to book for TPAC. Our f2f meeting is Thursday and Friday
13:11:18 <Yaso> I’ll be there
13:11:19 <EricKauz> Probably yes
13:11:23 <PhilA> PhilA: See announcement of 20th anniversary stuff at http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3898
13:11:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> will depend on the funding
13:11:32 <ericstephan> I am planning
13:11:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> hopefully
13:11:40 <PhilA> Phila: I'll be there all week (plane booked and everything)
13:11:46 <laufer> I will depend on funding too
13:11:49 <markharrison> not sure yet
13:11:58 <Ig_Bittencourt> I will probably be there.
13:12:05 <Makx_Dekkers> I checked flights and hotel rates: I will not be able to come to TPAC
13:12:14 <Ig_Bittencourt> Hi, HadleyBeeman. :)
13:12:32 <PhilA> topic: Actions
13:12:46 <Ig_Bittencourt> I will confirm later.
13:12:49 <HadleyBeeman> action-32?
13:12:49 <trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN
13:12:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32
13:12:49 <PhilA> action-32?
13:12:49 <trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN
13:12:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32
13:13:09 <HadleyBeeman> action-41?
13:13:09 <trackbot> action-41 -- Mark Harrison to Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN
13:13:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/41
13:13:18 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Where are you on that?
13:13:32 <PhilA> markharrison: I've added some more material, it's as complete as I can make it unless Antoine has more to add
13:13:39 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So we can close the action for now?
13:13:47 <PhilA> close action-41
13:13:47 <trackbot> Closed action-41.
13:13:58 <HadleyBeeman> action-45?
13:13:58 <trackbot> action-45 -- Eric Stephan to Review ucr with closed data in mind -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN
13:13:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/45
13:14:32 <PhilA> ericstephan: I looked at the UCR and there are some references to types of closed data that I thought were good, but I need to follow up... Sumit, do you have time to work on these?
13:14:37 <PhilA> SumitPurohit: Yep.
13:14:56 <PhilA> ericstephan: OK, so we'll put a wiki page together showing other examples of closed data that may not be in the UCR
13:15:25 <PhilA> action: ericstephan to work with SumitPurohit to put a wiki page together showing other examples of closed data that may not be in the UCR
13:15:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Work with sumitpurohit to put a wiki page together showing other examples of closed data that may not be in the ucr [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-06-27].
13:15:25 <HadleyBeeman> action-46?
13:15:25 <trackbot> action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN
13:15:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46
13:15:32 <PhilA> close action-45
13:15:32 <trackbot> Closed action-45.
13:15:44 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
13:15:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), SumitPurohit, ericstephan, markharrison, EricKauz, deirdrelee, laufer (muted), Yaso, BartvanLeeuwen
13:15:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see atemezi, Yaso, SumitPurohit, Makx_Dekkers, deirdrelee, markharrison, Ig_Bittencourt, EricKauz, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen,
13:15:47 <Zakim> ... laufer, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, trackbot
13:15:51 <Yaso> Ohhhn.
13:15:52 <Yaso> :/
13:16:05 <Yaso> now you can hear me?
13:16:17 <Yaso> Well, I've been traveling during this week, so can not finish. But I suggest that the action remains open until next week.
13:16:19 <markharrison> No we can't - sorry!
13:16:27 <ericstephan> +q
13:16:33 <PhilA> ack ericstephan
13:16:34 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
13:16:39 <Yaso> Yes I can!
13:16:49 <PhilA> ericstephan: Dunno if Yaso can hear me, but I;m extremely interested in teh IoT work
13:17:03 <PhilA> ... we work a lot with instrumentation in sci experiments
13:17:04 <PhilA> q+
13:17:10 <Yaso> Eric, you can help me on that?
13:17:10 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila
13:17:14 <PhilA> ericstephan: Glad to help Use cases
13:17:16 <Yaso> It’s great if you can
13:17:26 <PhilA> PhilA: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/wot/agenda.html
13:17:48 <HadleyBeeman> phila: IoT is relevant at the moment:  Next week, I'll get to meet EricKauz in Berlin, at the Web of Things.
13:18:04 <deirdrelee> anyone at #iotweek in London this week?
13:18:12 <markharrison> +q to say that there might be some use cases in the former W3C Semantic Sensor Network activity.  EricKauz and I have some background on IoT through the GS1 / Auto-ID Labs activities and the EPC Network architecture
13:18:13 <HadleyBeeman> … It's the Web of Services, built on the Web of Data.  I'll be looking at how this WG and others can support services online.
13:18:23 <HadleyBeeman> … May be new use cases for us from that meeting.
13:18:30 <Yaso> q+
13:18:41 <ericstephan> The RFORE use case I provided does cover this to some extent PhilA
13:18:41 <HadleyBeeman> … Web of Things work is in a different department at W3C than ours.  So I'm not on those calls.
13:19:00 <ericstephan> I just didn't bring out any details yet...
13:19:06 <deirdrelee> url to iotweek in london http://www.iot-week.eu/ I know some Insight researchers are over there
13:19:13 <HadleyBeeman> … IoT also touches the Geospatial work I've been doing this week: semantic sensors, sensor networks, etc.
13:19:28 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:19:29 <PhilA> ack markharrison
13:19:30 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that there might be some use cases in the former W3C Semantic Sensor Network activity.  EricKauz and I have some background on IoT through the GS1 /
13:19:30 <Zakim> ... Auto-ID Labs activities and the EPC Network architecture
13:19:46 <PhilA> markharrison: There might be some use cases from IoT from former SSN activity
13:20:11 <PhilA> Geo charter http://www.w3.org/2014/05/geo-charter
13:20:23 <ericstephan> that would be interesting markharrison
13:21:18 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
13:21:35 <PhilA> ack Yaso
13:21:38 <Yaso> I’m gonna be in Berlin for the IoT W3C Workshop also. I’ve been reading a lot and trying to “connect the points” between inovation and data…  the discussions around data preservation, best protocols, Semantic Web, all this issues are adressed to data usage. People are building new protocols to exchange data in litle packages (on mobile), for example.
13:21:43 <Yaso> I can talk :-/
13:21:47 <Yaso> ops
13:21:48 <Yaso> can’t
13:21:55 <PhilA> PhilA: We should have had a f2f meeting in Berlin!
13:22:01 <Yaso> hahaha
13:22:12 <HadleyBeeman> ack mt
13:22:13 <Yaso> It’s because the summer, I think, Phil
13:22:15 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
13:22:42 <atemezi> yeah, it could have been good idea having a f2f in Berlin :)
13:22:43 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: In our own institutions, some of our URIs are kilometres long and we need to sort that.
13:22:58 <PhilA> ... on preservation, we need to think about what sensor data needs to be stored
13:23:19 <PhilA> ... not every bit of data needs to be kept but what to keep. These should be addressed early in the IoT
13:23:27 <markharrison> +q to suggest that Keio University researchers may have useful contributions on geo-charter, in connection with their efforts on disaster relief co-ordination (demand vs supply) in Japan using Linked Open Data
13:23:34 <PhilA> ack markharrison
13:23:34 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to suggest that Keio University researchers may have useful contributions on geo-charter, in connection with their efforts on disaster relief co-ordination
13:23:34 <HadleyBeeman> ack mark
13:23:37 <Zakim> ... (demand vs supply) in Japan using Linked Open Data
13:24:29 <HadleyBeeman> action-47?
13:24:29 <trackbot> action-47 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Discuss with eric data usage meaning for the use case requirements, and for the vocabulary and finding consensus in the group -- due 2014-06-20 -- OPEN
13:24:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/47
13:24:30 <PhilA> markharrison: on the geo charter http://www.w3.org/2014/05/geo-charter, some have been using LOD to work with Geo WG. GS1 also has conections via Keio
13:24:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Do you know about this ericstephan?
13:25:42 <PhilA> ericstephan: Yes. This past week I've been attending a workshop in japan (remotely) which is a high energy physics event... my way of saying why I haven't done this. But Bernadette did send an e-mail asking for feedback so I encourage people to do that
13:25:48 <PhilA> ... she and I hope to meet on Tuesday
13:25:56 <PhilA> ... outr combined vocab call will be this Thursday
13:26:11 <markharrison> Note also that some GS1 staff are working closely with the Red Cross on use of data to help with relief efforts - EricKauz or I can find those connections too in case they can contribute use cases for geo-charter
13:26:15 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I think there'll be something on use cases in the vocab call on Thursday
13:26:17 <HadleyBeeman> action-48?
13:26:17 <trackbot> action-48 -- Newton Calegari to Will talk with other members to improve this versioning doc. in the next week i'll meet with flavio to discuss about it -- due 2014-06-20 -- OPEN
13:26:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/48
13:26:36 <Yaso> Today is holliday in Brazil
13:26:50 <Yaso> And there’s the WorldCup…
13:26:56 <HadleyBeeman> action-49?
13:26:56 <trackbot> action-49 -- Newton Calegari to Follow the DAURI doc proposed by tomas (bp - uri doc) -- due 2014-06-20 -- OPEN
13:26:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/49
13:27:26 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: I'm working on @@@
13:27:36 <HadleyBeeman> s/@@@/that document
13:27:46 <HadleyBeeman> action-50?
13:27:46 <trackbot> action-50 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Organise a discussion by email on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/best_practices_guidelines#general_guidelines -- due 2014-06-20 -- OPEN
13:27:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/50
13:27:46 <PhilA> MTCarrasco: I believe sometime this week there will be something to show
13:28:11 <ericstephan> +q
13:28:14 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Happy to discuss it or leave it until Bernadette is here
13:28:21 <PhilA> ack ericstephan
13:28:37 <PhilA> ericstephan: That action links to the feedback request that Bernadette made
13:28:54 <ericstephan> do we need an action item for new action items?
13:29:30 <PhilA> topic: Steve's Thoughts on the process
13:29:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We have ways to check with the community, find evidence that suggestions are being used and validated
13:30:01 <PhilA> .. but we don't have a way to combine each doc and for them to inform each other
13:30:18 <PhilA> ... so his suggestion ... was that software development methodologies might be useful
13:30:40 <PhilA> ... think in terms of an agile sprint. Discovery (UCR) and then we create a minimum viable product (initial draft)
13:30:45 <PhilA> ... and we iterate
13:31:03 <PhilA> ... he was talking about that makes it easier to think of other use cases and it's easier to add in new ones
13:31:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
13:31:14 <PhilA> ... have them feed into new parts of the doc
13:31:19 <PhilA> ... does this help editors?
13:31:22 <PhilA> ack BartvanLeeuwen
13:31:41 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen: as one of the editors, this might be helpful, as it's not clear where to start
13:31:57 <PhilA> ... but the problem I see is that if you want the docs reviewed then you need the reviewers to keep pace
13:32:08 <PhilA> ... getting reviews can be hard - finding enough people who are motivated
13:32:16 <Yaso> q+
13:32:36 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Would it be easier if reviewers understood where the docs were in the process
13:32:37 <ericstephan> +q
13:32:41 <PhilA> ack Yaso
13:32:46 <Yaso> tks
13:32:50 <Yaso> just a suggestion, but, maybe using git can help us with the reviews
13:33:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
13:33:10 <Yaso> since only people with w3c login can change the wiki
13:33:33 <Yaso> using git we can have review and suggestions irt
13:33:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I've been assuming that editing on the wiki is easier than github. But for her, GitHub is easier...
13:33:37 <Yaso> in real tme
13:33:39 <Yaso> time
13:33:40 <PhilA> q+
13:33:57 <Yaso> PhilA :-)
13:33:59 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: using GitHub makes it easier for outsiders to make contributions
13:34:16 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: But we can probably find ways to make this work
13:34:34 <PhilA> ericstephan: It's an interesting idea. Is this of itself a DWBP use case. Is this a dog food opportunity
13:34:49 <PhilA> ... we have GitHub and we've been using it in the CSVW
13:34:58 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1 to the proposal of an agile approach by using software methodologies and the definition of sprints.
13:35:03 <PhilA> ... it has its own issue tracker etc
13:35:18 <Yaso> +1
13:35:38 <PhilA> ericstephan: We could look for ways to exercise some of the things we talk about
13:35:41 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
13:35:42 <PhilA> ack BartvanLeeuwen
13:36:08 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen: I'm not sure what the W3C regs are on this, but if you take issues on GitHub, how do we track them
13:36:38 <PhilA> ack PhilA
13:36:45 <HadleyBeeman> re: archiving comments:  see example: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Comments
13:36:53 <Yaso> q+
13:37:01 <HadleyBeeman> q+
13:37:25 <ericstephan> CSVW is using the issue and action tracker
13:38:03 <PhilA> ack Yaso
13:38:05 <Yaso> tks! just a question to PhilA: do we have to obey these rules? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt
13:38:06 <ericstephan> +q
13:38:30 <Yaso> ok
13:39:14 <Yaso> ok! Thank you
13:39:18 <PhilA> ack HadleyBeeman
13:39:27 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Comments
13:39:37 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: `I wanted to answer Bart's comment
13:39:54 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We need to show who commented, what they said and that we sorted it with them
13:40:12 <ericstephan> -q
13:40:13 <PhilA> ... we have to demonstrate that they got our reply and that they're happy with it
13:40:25 <PhilA> ... so if we used GitHub then we'd need to link to those
13:40:36 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We need to be able to present this content somewhere
13:40:48 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen: Sounds good to me
13:41:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I feel like we're opening the topic today but we may not resolve it today
13:41:36 <PhilA> ... if all of you are comfortable with it, I'd like to talk about it again next week
13:41:42 <ericstephan> sounds like a provenance use case
13:41:48 <PhilA> ... do what you'd like but please share with us what you're doing
13:42:21 <PhilA> ericstephan: If you have some comments in GH, if you're using Issue Tracker... I see a graph in my mind. I want to see everything associated, the comments, the changes etc
13:42:51 <PhilA> ericstephan: To me it's just a reakl world example of document transclusion and how you would piece it together for someone to understand
13:43:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: +1
13:43:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 for provanance
13:43:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
13:43:40 <PhilA> ack BartvanLeeuwen
13:43:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-12
13:44:00 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
13:44:09 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen: I had a quick look at the products... in the vocab group meeting, we said we'd keep issues on main maling list
13:44:36 <PhilA> action: phil to update tracker products
13:44:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Update tracker products [on Phil Archer - due 2014-06-27].
13:44:59 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
13:45:26 <Yaso> I can scribe, Phil
13:45:31 <Yaso> I can’t talk
13:45:44 <PhilA> scribe: Yaso
13:45:44 <Yaso> no problem
13:46:04 <ericstephan> +q
13:46:16 <PhilA> ack ericstephan
13:46:39 <Yaso> Ericstephan: I changed emails with Steve this week, about the white house,
13:47:18 <Yaso> … I think we have an opportunity. Steve mentioned standard organizations that we can work with
13:47:38 <Yaso> … we can see if there’s any intersections with our work
13:48:19 <Yaso> PhilA: one of the problems that we have is that w3c doesn’t have staff in Washington
13:48:57 <Yaso> …so.. Bernadette Hyland can help Steve to get there
13:51:08 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
13:51:56 <Yaso> …there’s a new guy on ??
13:52:06 <PhilA> s/??/NIH/
13:52:22 <Yaso> ericstephan: that’s a very influential organization
13:53:53 <Yaso> PhilA: anything else?
13:54:11 <Yaso> … I’m gonna have to regrets the next week
13:54:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx phill
13:54:33 <laufer> bye all, nice weekend
13:54:37 <Zakim> -ericstephan
13:54:39 <Zakim> -EricKauz
13:54:39 <SumitPurohit> Thanks
13:54:41 <Zakim> -PhilA
13:54:42 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
13:54:46 <Yaso> RSSagent: make minutes
13:54:46 <SumitPurohit> -SumitPurohit
13:54:48 <markharrison> Bye!
13:54:49 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
13:54:49 <Zakim> -laufer
13:54:53 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
13:54:56 <PhilA> trackbot end meeting
13:54:56 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
13:54:56 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.617.646.aaaa, +1.509.375.aabb, ericstephan, laufer, SumitPurohit, +44.122.374.aacc,
13:54:56 <atemezi> q-
13:54:59 <Zakim> ... markharrison, +1.609.557.aadd, deirdrelee, EricKauz, BartvanLeeuwen, Yaso, Makx_Dekkers
13:55:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:55:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/20-dwbp-minutes.html trackbot
13:55:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
13:55:20 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
13:55:24 <PhilA> rrsagent, make logs public
13:56:31 <Yaso> Yaso has left #dwbp
13:57:27 <Zakim> -Yaso
13:58:44 <PhilA> regrets: Antoine, Christophe, Jeremy, Bernadette, Carlos, Steve, Ivan
13:59:18 <Zakim> -markharrison
13:59:19 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
13:59:19 <Zakim> Attendees were MTCarrasco, PhilA, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.617.646.aaaa, +1.509.375.aabb, ericstephan, laufer, SumitPurohit, +44.122.374.aacc, markharrison,
13:59:19 <Zakim> ... +1.609.557.aadd, deirdrelee, EricKauz, BartvanLeeuwen, Yaso, Makx_Dekkers
14:10:52 <PhilA> zakim, bye
14:10:52 <Zakim> Zakim has left #dwbp
14:10:56 <PhilA> rrsagent, bye
14:10:56 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/20-dwbp-actions.rdf :
14:10:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericstephan to work with SumitPurohit to put a wiki page together showing other examples of closed data that may not be in the UCR [1]
14:10:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/20-dwbp-irc#T13-15-25
14:10:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: phil to update tracker products [2]
14:10:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/20-dwbp-irc#T13-44-36