Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference -- 13 Jun 2014

<trackbot> Date: 13 June 2014

<cgueret> Bonjour tout le monde!

<cgueret> :-)

<BernadetteLoscio> bonjour!!!

<BernadetteLoscio> :)

<cgueret> already scribbed last time, sorry

<scribe> scribe: gatemezi

Minutes of the last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-06

<HadleyBeeman> PROPOSED: accept minutes of last meeting

<cgueret> +1

PROPOSED: accept minutes of last meeting

<Yaso> : zakim, +??P19 is Yaso

<BernadetteLoscio> hello!

<Yaso> +1

<HadleyBeeman> +1

<newton> +1

<BernadetteLoscio> +1

<markharrison> 0 - was absent

APPROVED: last meeting Minutes

RESOLUTION: last meeting minutes

<MTCarrasco> +1

TPAC

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

<BernadetteLoscio> :)

HadleyBeeman: This year celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Web in TPAC

<BernadetteLoscio> its true!

<cgueret> ^_^

Ivan It is difficult to follow TimBL's talk if you are not English Native

HadleyBeeman: We have to plan our 2F2F, and plan to meet there
... recommend going and participate

<adler1> nope

<adler1> not doing it

adler1: Realize that maybe in Thursday it will not be so excited
... and will be somewhere else in the World. He feels people will be tired on Thursday, ending up not doing well
... proposes to find another venue than TPAC

<ivan> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details

ivan: there are various groups having meeting those days at http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details
... generally there are very informal events, CSV on the Web will have meetings during that week as well, and those interested are welcome to attend

<ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/

ivan: people should register ASAP, with a registration fees as well to pay

<BernadetteLoscio> me too

ivan: It is good to register for the organizers to manage the attendees

HadleyBeeman: Attending at TPAC is also an opportunity to see how other groups work together, team group, etc.
... Any question on TPAC?

<ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/

<ivan> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details

ivan: registration earlier enough through the page https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/
... People can attend informally to the discussion

<Yaso> Can you hear me?

<Yaso> I’m gonna call again

report from the first vocabularies call

<Yaso> \o/ tks HadleyBeeman

BernadetteLoscio: Group meeting on vocab call ..It was the first call
... the main working group mailing list will be use for the records

<adler1> +1

BernadetteLoscio: shows a wiki page pointing the relations between the requirements and the vocabularies

<BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines

HadleyBeeman: It was a good start

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open

Reviewing actions

<HadleyBeeman> action-20?

<trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

BernadetteLoscio: We have to wait a little more.. not sure how to do it now
... Need to clarify about Data usage, what it means for us ..She is working with Eric on that
... It's not still clear the meaning of data usage

<HadleyBeeman> ACTION: Bernadette to discuss with Eric data usage meaning for the use case requirements, and for the vocabulary and finding consensus in the group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Discuss with eric data usage meaning for the use case requirements, and for the vocabulary and finding consensus in the group [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-06-20].

<HadleyBeeman> close action-20

<trackbot> Closed action-20.

<HadleyBeeman> action-23?

<trackbot> action-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/27

BernadetteLoscio: it is something to work continuously . We will need this to see how to implement the best practices

<HadleyBeeman> issue-27?

<trackbot> issue-27 -- Review requirements for metadata, license, provenance and vocabularies -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/27

<HadleyBeeman> issue: Bernadette to review existing vocabularies (like http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23) to learn from them for our vocabularies

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-44 - Bernadette to review existing vocabularies (like http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23) to learn from them for our vocabularies. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/44/edit>.

<HadleyBeeman> close action-23

<trackbot> Closed action-23.

<HadleyBeeman> action-30?

<trackbot> action-30 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Come back with schedule to the wg -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/30

<adler1> I have to drop

<HadleyBeeman> close action-30

<trackbot> Closed action-30.

<HadleyBeeman> action-32?

<trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32

<HadleyBeeman> action-40?

<trackbot> action-40 -- Flavio Yanai to Start the versioning document/research with newton -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/40

<newton> Hi Hadley

<newton> I'm not on the phone

<newton> So, about the action-40

<HadleyBeeman> Hi newton!

<newton> It can be closed

<newton> It's done

<HadleyBeeman> close action-40

<trackbot> Closed action-40.

<HadleyBeeman> newton, what is next with that?

<newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets

<newton> We will talk with other members to improve this doc. In the next week I'll meet with Flavio to discuss about it

<HadleyBeeman> ACTION: newton will talk with other members to improve this versioning doc. In the next week I'll meet with Flavio to discuss about it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Will talk with other members to improve this versioning doc. in the next week i'll meet with flavio to discuss about it [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-06-20].

<HadleyBeeman> action-41?

<trackbot> action-41 -- Mark Harrison to Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/41

markharrison: starts the document but not finished

<HadleyBeeman> action-42?

<trackbot> action-42 -- Newton Calegari to Improve bp - uri document with new references -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/42

<newton> It's done

<HadleyBeeman> close action-42

<trackbot> Closed action-42.

<HadleyBeeman> what's next on that, newton?

<newton> For next, I'll just follow the DARUP doc proposed by Tomas

RSSAgent, make logs public

<HadleyBeeman> ACTION: newton to follow the DARUP doc proposed by Tomas (BP - URI doc) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Follow the darup doc proposed by tomas (bp - uri doc) [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-06-20].

<HadleyBeeman> action-45?

<trackbot> action-45 -- Eric Stephan to Review ucr with closed data in mind -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/45

<HadleyBeeman> action-46?

<trackbot> action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46

<Yaso> Can you hear me?

<Yaso> yes!

<HadleyBeeman> action-46?

<trackbot> action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46

<Yaso> did you hear me?

<Yaso> I'm still working on it, not finished. But, for sure, next week I will have finished this action.

<Yaso> :-/ bad connection

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

Issues raised

Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

<MTCarrasco> DAURI http://dragoman.org/dauri/dauri-2.html

subtopic: URI

MTCarrasco: Do we need a separate document to talk about URI?

BernadetteLoscio: It is difficult and/or early to decide

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> Who is leading the URI part of the best practices document?

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> This is not clear in https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices

MTCarrasco: It is better to start writing now than later. It's also better to have a document to crystalize the discussion

<laufer> tomas, I have problems with the access to the link...

BernadetteLoscio: maybe you need folks to send feedback from the BP doc

MTCarrasco: We need to start to write proper recommendation now

<newton> I'm having troubles with the link too

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> But then, it could be a single "Best Practices for Data on the Web" instead of one for each section

<laufer> yes, gatemezi. I got a connection timeout.

<ivan> +1 to MTCarrasco

MTCarrasco: worried about the workload in formatting document in W3C document

<HadleyBeeman> issue-4?

<trackbot> issue-4 -- Add a matrix table to summarize UCs vs challenges/requirements -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/4

MTCarrasco: The document is there and the group will decide if it's a separate doc or inside bp doc

BernadetteLoscio: The table is similar to the one in the Wiki page..But not clear how to apply in document

<laufer> tomas, http://dragoman.org/ has connection problems...

BernadetteLoscio: still work on progress

<MTCarrasco> Laufer, both work for me: http://dragoman.org http://dragoman.org/dauri/dauri-2.html

BernadetteLoscio: all the issues in the UCs are still open

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open

<HadleyBeeman> issue-14?

<trackbot> issue-14 -- Improve Use case "Feedback Loop for Corrections" -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/14

<HadleyBeeman> issue-41?

<trackbot> issue-41 -- Update Use Case #4 - OKFN Tranport WG -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/41

<laufer> tomas, ok. maybe a problem from the access here in brazil. I will access it later. thank you.

<newton> I'm with the same problem here, laufer

<nathalia> I'm with the same problem here

BernadetteLoscio: Issues 14 and 41 are still open

Any discussion

<BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines

BernadetteLoscio: Need to have feedback from BP guidelines at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines
... to start the discussion

<JoaoPauloAlmeida> nice work

+1 to the effort of BernadetteLoscio

<Yaso> nice

<vagner> +1 to Bernadette great work as usual

<HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#General_Guidelines

<BernadetteLoscio> thanks vagner!

HadleyBeeman: It could be helpful to come with a specific question to the group in the next meeting

<HadleyBeeman> ACTION: bernadette to organise a discussion by email on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#General_Guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Organise a discussion by email on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/best_practices_guidelines#general_guidelines [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-06-20].

<Yaso> tks!

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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

13 Jun 2014

Attendees

Contents

TPAC

report from the first vocabularies call

Reviewing actions

Issues raised

Any discussion

Summary of Action Items

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