12:59:55 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:59:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-irc 12:59:57 RRSAgent, make logs 351 12:59:57 Zakim has joined #dwbp 12:59:59 Zakim, this will be DWBP 12:59:59 ok, trackbot, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started 13:00:00 Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 13:00:00 Date: 13 June 2014 13:00:05 +HadleyBeeman 13:00:28 zakim, who is here? 13:00:30 On the phone I see ??P0, HadleyBeeman 13:00:30 On IRC I see RRSAgent, trackbot, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, newton, MTCarrasco, ivan, cgueret 13:01:00 +??P13 13:01:08 zakim, ??P13 is me 13:01:09 +cgueret; got it 13:01:19 HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140613 13:01:27 Bonjour tout le monde! 13:01:29 zakim, ??P0 is me 13:01:30 +MTCarrasco; got it 13:01:34 zakim, mute me 13:01:34 cgueret should now be muted 13:01:36 :-) 13:01:36 bonjour!!! 13:01:37 + +33.4.93.00.aaaa 13:01:58 Yaso has joined #dwbp 13:02:10 :) 13:02:17 markharrison has joined #dwbp 13:02:21 already scribbed last time, sorry 13:02:32 adler1 has joined #DWBP 13:02:33 + +1.516.944.aabb 13:02:42 scribe: gatemezi 13:02:51 zakim, aabb is me 13:02:52 +adler1; got it 13:02:53 +??P19 13:03:08 zakim, dial ivan-voip 13:03:08 ok, ivan; the call is being made 13:03:10 +Ivan 13:03:16 Zakim, +??P19 is Yaso 13:03:17 sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named '+??P19' 13:03:21 laufer has joined #DWBP 13:03:28 Zakim, P19 is Yaso 13:03:29 sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'P19' 13:03:31 chair: HadleyBeeman 13:03:42 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140613 13:04:23 Minutes of the last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-06 13:04:55 +markharrison 13:05:01 +[IPcaller] 13:05:03 zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio 13:05:04 +BernadetteLoscio; got it 13:05:14 PROPOSED: accept minutes of last meeting 13:05:22 +[IPcaller] 13:05:22 zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio 13:05:23 EricKauz has joined #DWBP 13:05:23 +1 13:05:24 PROPOSED: accept minutes of last meeting 13:05:24 BernadetteLoscio should now be muted 13:05:30 : zakim, +??P19 is Yaso 13:05:31 hello! 13:05:31 -[IPcaller] 13:05:31 +1 13:05:31 +1 13:05:34 +1 13:05:35 +1 13:06:02 0 - was absent 13:06:04 APPROVED: last meeting Minutes 13:06:06 +[IPcaller] 13:06:15 zakim, ipcaller is me 13:06:16 +laufer; got it 13:06:20 zakim, +??P19 is Yaso 13:06:20 sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named '+??P19' 13:06:28 RESOLVED: last meeting minutes 13:06:29 +1 13:06:33 zakim, mute me 13:06:34 laufer should now be muted 13:06:50 Topic: TPAC 13:06:54 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/ 13:07:14 :) 13:07:34 HadleyBeeman: This year celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Web in TPAC 13:08:21 its true! 13:08:32 ^_^ 13:09:01 Ivan It is difficult to follow TimBL's talk if you are not English Native 13:09:31 HadleyBeeman: We have to plan our 2F2F, and plan to meet there 13:09:49 q+ 13:10:04 ...recommend going and participate 13:10:07 nope 13:10:10 not doing it 13:11:16 adler1: Realize that maybe in Thursday it will not be so excited 13:11:56 vagner has joined #dwbp 13:11:59 + +1.609.947.aacc 13:12:24 ...and will be somewhere else in the World. He feels people will be tired on Thursday, ending up not doing well 13:13:07 q+ 13:13:13 adler1: proposes to find another venue than TPAC 13:13:20 ack ivan 13:13:30 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details 13:13:59 ivan: there are various groups having meeting those days at http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details 13:14:41 ...generally there are very informal events, CSV on the Web will have meetings during that week as well, and those interested are welcome to attend 13:14:51 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/ 13:15:17 ...people should register ASAP, with a registration fees as well to pay 13:15:19 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:15:32 me too 13:16:03 zakim, mute me 13:16:04 sorry, Yaso, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 13:16:09 ...It is good to register for the organizers to manage the attendees 13:16:15 -Ivan 13:16:54 HadleyBeeman: Attending at TPAC is also an opportunity to see how other groups work together, team group, etc. 13:16:54 zakim, code? 13:16:54 the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan 13:17:08 HadleyBeeman: Any question on TPAC? 13:17:13 q? 13:17:15 +Ivan 13:17:41 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/ 13:18:03 +Caroline 13:18:32 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/#details 13:18:41 ivan: registration earlier enough through the page https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/ 13:19:28 ...People can attend informally to the discussion 13:19:47 Can you hear me? 13:19:50 q? 13:19:56 ack yaso 13:20:02 zakim, who is here? 13:20:03 On the phone I see MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), +33.4.93.00.aaaa, adler1, ??P19, markharrison, BernadetteLoscio (muted), laufer (muted), +1.609.947.aacc, Ivan, 13:20:03 ... Caroline 13:20:03 I’m gonna call again 13:20:04 On IRC I see nathalia, Vagner_BR, EricKauz, laufer, adler1, markharrison, Yaso, Zakim, RRSAgent, trackbot, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, newton, MTCarrasco, ivan, 13:20:04 ... cgueret 13:20:10 -??P19 13:20:16 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 13:20:21 Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aaaa is me 13:20:21 +gatemezi; got it 13:20:25 +??P8 13:20:34 zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio 13:20:34 BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted 13:20:36 Topic: report from the first vocabularies call 13:20:37 Zakim, +??P8 is yaso 13:20:38 sorry, Yaso, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8' 13:20:47 zakim, ??P8 is Yaso 13:20:49 +Yaso; got it 13:20:49 Zakim, +Caroline is Vagner_BR 13:20:50 sorry, Vagner_BR, I do not recognize a party named '+Caroline' 13:21:01 +[IPcaller] 13:21:01 \o/ tks HadleyBeeman 13:21:02 zakim, Caroline has vagner_br 13:21:02 +vagner_br; got it 13:21:12 BernadetteLoscio: Group meeting on vocab call ..It was the first call 13:21:23 Zakim, IPcaller is me 13:21:24 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 13:21:32 ...the mail list will be use for the records 13:21:45 s/the mail list/the main working group mailing list 13:22:58 +1 13:23:11 ...shows a wiki page pointing the relations between the requirements and the vocabularies 13:23:33 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines 13:23:44 HadleyBeeman: It was a good start 13:24:36 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/ 13:24:52 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open 13:24:54 Topic: Reviewing actions 13:25:03 action-20? 13:25:03 action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:25:03 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20 13:25:38 BernadetteLoscio: We have to wait a little more.. not sure how to do it now 13:26:28 ...Need to clarify about Data usage, what it means for us ..She is working with ??? on that 13:27:20 ...It's not still clear the meaning of data usage 13:27:20 zakim, mute me 13:27:20 Yaso should now be muted 13:27:33 s/???/Eric 13:28:20 BartvanLeeuwen has joined #dwbp 13:28:35 action: Bernadette to discuss with Eric data usage meaning for the use case requirements, and for the vocabulary and finding consensus in the group 13:28:35 Created ACTION-47 - Discuss with eric data usage meaning for the use case requirements, and for the vocabulary and finding consensus in the group [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-06-20]. 13:28:46 close action-20 13:28:46 Closed action-20. 13:28:57 action-23? 13:28:57 action-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:28:57 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23 13:30:35 Zakim, mute me 13:30:37 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/27 13:30:37 JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted 13:30:40 BernadetteLoscio: it is something to work continuously . We will need this to see how to implement the best practices 13:30:40 issue-27? 13:30:40 issue-27 -- Review requirements for metadata, license, provenance and vocabularies -- raised 13:30:40 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/27 13:31:30 -Caroline 13:31:45 issue: Bernadette to review existing vocabularies (like http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23) to learn from them for our vocabularies 13:31:45 Created ISSUE-44 - Bernadette to review existing vocabularies (like http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23) to learn from them for our vocabularies. Please complete additional details at . 13:31:59 close action-23 13:31:59 Closed action-23. 13:32:07 action-30? 13:32:07 action-30 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Come back with schedule to the wg -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN 13:32:07 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/30 13:32:15 I have to drop 13:32:20 close action-30 13:32:20 Closed action-30. 13:32:23 -adler1 13:32:30 action-32? 13:32:30 action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN 13:32:30 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32 13:32:47 action-40? 13:32:47 action-40 -- Flavio Yanai to Start the versioning document/research with newton -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN 13:32:47 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/40 13:32:54 Hi Hadley 13:32:56 I'm not on the phone 13:33:02 So, about the action-40 13:33:04 Hi newton! 13:33:08 It can be closed 13:33:11 It's done 13:33:16 close action-40 13:33:16 Closed action-40. 13:33:18 -Yaso 13:33:22 newton, what is next with that? 13:33:32 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets 13:33:37 +??P8 13:33:47 Zakim, ??P8 is Yaso 13:33:47 +Yaso; got it 13:33:49 zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio 13:33:50 BernadetteLoscio should now be muted 13:33:58 We will talk with other members to improve this doc. In the next week I'll meet with Flavio to discuss about it 13:34:21 action: newton will talk with other members to improve this versioning doc. In the next week I'll meet with Flavio to discuss about it 13:34:22 Created ACTION-48 - Will talk with other members to improve this versioning doc. in the next week i'll meet with flavio to discuss about it [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-06-20]. 13:34:41 action-41? 13:34:41 action-41 -- Mark Harrison to Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN 13:34:41 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/41 13:35:07 markharrison: starts the document but not finished 13:35:15 action-42? 13:35:15 action-42 -- Newton Calegari to Improve bp - uri document with new references -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN 13:35:15 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/42 13:35:23 It's done 13:35:29 close action-42 13:35:29 Closed action-42. 13:35:36 what's next on that, newton? 13:35:53 For next, I'll just follow the DARUP doc proposed by Tomas 13:36:02 RSSAgent, make logs public 13:36:13 action: newton to follow the DARUP doc proposed by Tomas (BP - URI doc) 13:36:14 Created ACTION-49 - Follow the darup doc proposed by tomas (bp - uri doc) [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-06-20]. 13:36:18 action-45? 13:36:18 action-45 -- Eric Stephan to Review ucr with closed data in mind -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN 13:36:18 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/45 13:36:31 zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio 13:36:32 BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted 13:36:47 action-46? 13:36:47 action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN 13:36:47 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46 13:37:05 Zakim, who is making noise? 13:37:10 Can you hear me? 13:37:10 zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio 13:37:11 BernadetteLoscio should now be muted 13:37:17 JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (67%), gatemezi (9%), BernadetteLoscio (33%) 13:37:18 yes! 13:37:31 action-46? 13:37:31 action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN 13:37:31 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46 13:37:40 did you hear me? 13:37:45 I'm still working on it, not finished. But, for sure, next week I will have finished this action. 13:37:47 Zakim, who is here? 13:37:49 On the phone I see MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), gatemezi, markharrison, BernadetteLoscio (muted), laufer (muted), +1.609.947.aacc, Ivan, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), 13:37:49 ... Yaso 13:37:49 On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, JoaoPauloAlmeida, nathalia, EricKauz, laufer, markharrison, Yaso, Zakim, RRSAgent, trackbot, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, newton, 13:37:50 ... MTCarrasco, ivan, cgueret 13:37:50 :-/ bad connection 13:38:20 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised 13:38:33 Topic: Issues raised 13:38:43 Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised 13:38:51 zakim, aacc is me 13:38:52 +EricKauz; got it 13:38:58 DAURI http://dragoman.org/dauri/dauri-2.html 13:39:06 q+ 13:39:39 subtopic: URI 13:39:53 zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio 13:39:55 BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted 13:39:55 ack bern 13:39:55 MTCarrasco: Do we need a separate document to talk about URI? 13:40:57 BernadetteLoscio: It is difficult and/or early to decide 13:41:11 Who is leading the URI part of the best practices document? 13:41:18 This is not clear in https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices 13:41:58 MTCarrasco: It is better to start writing now than later. It's also better to have a document to crystalize the discussion 13:43:03 tomas, I have problems with the access to the link... 13:43:03 BernadetteLoscio: maybe you need folks to send feedback from the BP doc 13:44:02 MTCarrasco: We need to start to write proper recommendation now 13:44:22 I'm having troubles with the link too 13:45:10 But then, it could be a single "Best Practices for Data on the Web" instead of one for each section 13:45:15 yes, ghislain. I got a connection timeout. 13:45:24 +1 to manuel 13:46:00 s/manuel/MTCarrasco 13:47:23 MTCarrasco: worried about the workload in formatting document in W3C document 13:49:23 issue-4? 13:49:23 issue-4 -- Add a matrix table to summarize UCs vs challenges/requirements -- raised 13:49:23 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/4 13:49:24 ...The document is there and the group will decide if it's a separate doc or inside bp doc 13:50:27 BernadetteLoscio: The table is similar to the one in the Wiki page..But not clear how to apply in document 13:50:38 tomas, http://dragoman.org/ has connection problems... 13:50:56 ...still work on progress 13:52:36 Laufer, both work for me: http://dragoman.org http://dragoman.org/dauri/dauri-2.html 13:52:48 BernadetteLoscio: all the issues in the UCs are still open 13:52:54 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open 13:52:59 s/ghislain/gatemezi 13:53:10 issue-14? 13:53:11 issue-14 -- Improve Use case "Feedback Loop for Corrections" -- open 13:53:11 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/14 13:53:14 vagner has joined #dwbp 13:53:14 issue-41? 13:53:14 issue-41 -- Update Use Case #4 - OKFN Tranport WG -- open 13:53:14 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/41 13:54:06 tomas, ok. maybe a problem from the access here in brazil. I will access it later. thank you. 13:54:42 I'm with the same problem here, laufer 13:54:54 I'm with the same problem here 13:55:02 BernadetteLoscio: Issues 14 and 41 are still open 13:55:28 q+ 13:55:35 ack bernadette 13:55:36 Topic: Any discussion 13:55:54 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines 13:56:08 BernadetteLoscio: Need to have feedback from BP guidelines at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines 13:56:20 ...to start the discussion 13:57:01 nice work 13:57:20 +1 to the effort of BernadetteLoscio 13:57:36 nice 13:57:42 +1 to Bernadette great work as usual 13:57:51 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#General_Guidelines 13:57:59 Zakim, who is here? 13:58:01 On the phone I see MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), gatemezi, markharrison, BernadetteLoscio, laufer (muted), EricKauz, Ivan, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso 13:58:01 On IRC I see vagner, BartvanLeeuwen, JoaoPauloAlmeida, nathalia, EricKauz, laufer, markharrison, Yaso, Zakim, RRSAgent, trackbot, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, newton, 13:58:01 ... MTCarrasco, ivan, cgueret 13:58:11 thanks vagner! 13:58:17 -Yaso 13:58:29 +??P8 13:58:41 -EricKauz 13:58:42 Zakim, ??P8 is yaso 13:58:43 +yaso; got it 13:59:00 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 13:59:32 HadleyBeeman: It could be helpful to come with a specific question to the group in the next meeting 13:59:34 action: bernadette to organise a discussion by email on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#General_Guidelines 13:59:34 Created ACTION-50 - Organise a discussion by email on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/best_practices_guidelines#general_guidelines [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-06-20]. 13:59:49 tks! 13:59:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/13-dwbp-minutes.html ivan 14:00:03 -MTCarrasco 14:00:04 Bye! 14:00:04 thank you!!! 14:00:12 Bye everyone 14:00:14 Bye! 14:00:17 rrsagent, make logs public 14:00:19 bye 14:00:27 -markharrison 14:00:30 nathalia has left #dwbp 14:00:46 http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-15 14:00:57 http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-13 14:01:02 bye all, nice weekend. 14:01:06 EricKauz has left #dwbp 14:01:19 -laufer 14:01:45 bye 14:01:56 -BernadetteLoscio 14:02:30 -cgueret 14:03:45 -Ivan 14:03:50 -HadleyBeeman 14:04:00 -yaso 14:04:05 Yaso has left #dwbp 14:07:26 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 14:07:38 vagner has joined #dwbp 14:12:25 disconnecting the lone participant, gatemezi, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM 14:12:26 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended 14:12:26 Attendees were HadleyBeeman, cgueret, MTCarrasco, +1.516.944.aabb, adler1, Ivan, markharrison, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, +1.609.947.aacc, gatemezi, Yaso, vagner_br, 14:12:26 ... 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