12:57:49 RRSAgent has joined #tvapi 12:57:49 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-irc 12:58:03 Zakim has joined #tvapi 12:58:53 zakim, who is here? 12:58:53 sorry, whyun, I don't know what conference this is 12:58:55 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Bin_Hu, skim13, GaryChen, whyun 12:59:10 datdoan has joined #tvapi 12:59:33 zakim, who is on the phone? 12:59:33 sorry, Bin_Hu, I don't know what conference this is 12:59:34 On IRC I see datdoan, Zakim, RRSAgent, Bin_Hu, skim13, GaryChen, whyun 12:59:47 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 13:01:16 Bin_Hu: We can not dail the number that you provide in the mail. 13:01:27 cpn has joined #tvapi 13:01:28 Interesting 13:01:32 genelian has joined #tvapi 13:01:33 genelian_ has joined #tvapi 13:01:37 w3c has joined #tvapi 13:01:41 I am on the phone now 13:01:47 I was able to dial in as well 13:02:08 regrets+ JCVerdie (AC Meeting) 13:02:21 aldafu_ has joined #tvapi 13:02:24 just like what we've dialed in last time right? Is that different due to the Zakim Bridge system? 13:02:45 No, now we use the zakim bridge 13:03:09 I mean the only difference is the phone number? 13:03:14 Zakim Bridge: +1.617.761.6200 / Conference Code: 88274 ("TVAPI") 13:03:35 No, the access code has changed too 13:04:14 Yes, I know. We got no sound after dialing +1.617.761.6200 13:04:37 so we cannot have a chance to dial the conference code either. 13:04:37 my first try failed as well, try again? 13:04:42 OK 13:05:25 Paul_Higgs has joined #tvapi 13:05:33 I see. Perhaps try again? Some other perons had the similar problem. They either re-dialed, or wait for 30 seconds to hear the prompt 13:05:52 Let me know if the re-dialing works or not 13:07:37 Bin_Hu, Sorry I retried many times but it's till not working... 13:08:39 and our IT is out of office. I'm afraid we have to chat on IRC... 13:08:57 • Calling Number: +1.312.777.1449 • Access Code: 8944921# 13:09:16 OK. Let us switch back to the old one that Alex just posted 13:09:57 stll not working 13:10:12 bin needs to start the other bridge first, i think 13:10:24 okay. 13:12:14 I alrady started the old bridge we used last time 13:12:20 Paul_Higgs has joined #tvapi 13:13:38 we are re-dialing old bridge now. 13:14:08 failed again 13:14:33 I see. Perhaps it is due to your phone system? 13:14:39 I'm now using skype to access old bridge, and it works well. 13:15:16 Bin_Hu, yeap I'm afraid so. Really sorry about that... 13:15:39 SteveC has joined #tvapi 13:16:25 Ok, let us start, and try to use IRC to capture the important discussion point 13:17:12 yeap, thank you guys. We'll stick to the conversation as possible as we can. 13:19:12 genelian has joined #tvapi 13:19:12 chair Bin 13:19:41 agenda http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Agenda_Telco_Jun_10_2014 13:20:08 Bin, talking about something 13:20:39 Paul_Higgs has joined #tvapi 13:21:15 bin: review of action items 13:22:13 http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Technical_Use_Cases 13:22:18 bin: review of technical use cases 13:22:55 bin: we have 5 contributions 13:23:58 ScribeNick: cpn 13:24:30 Bin: first use case is triggering of an interactive content overlay 13:25:08 ... this has 6 technical requirements 13:25:52 ... events to display/dismiss the overlay 13:27:13 ... triggered based on various channel/timing events 13:27:30 ... overlay has validity period 13:28:29 ... content overlay works with different content sources 13:29:13 does "live" in the last bullet refer to ober-the-air 13:30:07 yes, either over-the-air, or "live" on cable TV 13:34:07 cpn: cpn explains channel scan use case 13:34:46 You can see a javascript object implemention of channel scanning in the OIPF Declarative Application Environment specification (section 7.13.9) 13:34:47 ???: can we show progress indicator during channel scan? 13:35:18 alex: channel scan should notify when scan is complete 13:36:02 ???: api should report signal strengh, to give user feedback if signal not strong enough 13:36:36 s/???: api/genelian: api/ 13:37:09 ... detect available tuners, to notify user if a new tuner is available 13:37:46 ... should report channel names and numbers during the scan 13:38:21 ... uses should be able to select channels using their remote control 13:38:42 ... allow selection of individual audio and video tracks 13:38:55 ... events to notify programme changes 13:40:08 ... navigation of EPG 13:41:14 ... recording of media streams 13:41:45 ... notify user of emergency broadcasts 13:42:13 ... parental control 13:42:48 ... display multiple media streams, for picture-in-picture 13:43:09 ... link to web content relating to broadcast content 13:44:23 ??? do we need to modify the API to support IPTV? 13:44:25 We don;t normally "tune" to an IP channel 13:44:43 but a channel could carry IP content 13:44:56 matt: display of multiple streams may require multiple tuners 13:46:31 genelian: the API can cover single and multiple tuners 13:47:24 Paul_Higgs: picture-in-picture could be done with an IP channel and a tuner channel 13:47:58 Bin_Hu: this should be an application issue, based on sources provided by the API 13:48:48 skim13: explains ETRI use case 13:50:51 ... URI for media sources 13:51:11 ... display of channel and program lists 13:51:40 ... program info in multiple languages 13:52:29 ... links to channel services 13:52:47 scribe, Chris Needham (cpn) 13:54:34 matt: display of subtitles in broadcast video 13:55:15 ... and audio description streams for the visually impaired 13:55:57 Bin_Hu: there's some overlap in these use cases 13:56:20 ... suggest the next step is to summarise requirements from the use case 13:57:23 Bin_Hu: ... deadline for use case contributions is next conference call (July 8th) 13:58:02 +1 summarize and de-duplicate the user cases 13:58:16 Action: Bin_Hu will consolidate the requirements 13:58:50 Bin_Hu: will follow with JC and Kaz re meeting at TPAC 13:59:29 s/follow/follow up/ 14:00:03 Bin_Hu: some people had problems dialing into today's call 14:00:40 ... try to use Zakim again next time, with IRC integration 14:01:22 Bin_Hu: thanks for all your input today 14:01:33 skim13 has left #tvapi 14:03:34 RRSAgent: draft minutes 14:03:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html aldafu 14:04:03 didn't work, it seems 14:04:52 present+ Bin Hu, Chris Needham, Paul Higgs, Wook Hyun, Sung Hei Kim, Alex Futasz, Dat Doan, Matt Haynes, Gene Lian, Gary Chen 14:05:05 GaryChen has joined #tvapi 14:05:23 rrsagent, make log public 14:05:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:05:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html Bin_Hu 14:05:48 Chair, Bin 14:06:03 Scribe Chris Needham (cpn) 14:06:11 Chair Bin 14:06:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:06:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html Bin_Hu 14:06:39 Chair, Bin 14:07:13 Chair, Bin_Hu 14:07:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:07:30 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html Bin_Hu 14:10:48 w3c1 has joined #tvapi 14:14:55 genelian has joined #tvapi 14:18:46 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 14:32:34 GaryChen has joined #tvapi 14:48:10 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 15:19:00 jcverdie_ has joined #tvapi 15:20:51 Zakim has left #tvapi 15:38:52 w3c has joined #tvapi 16:07:53 cpn has joined #tvapi 16:08:57 Meeting: TV Control API CG 16:09:17 RRSAgent: draft minutes 16:09:17 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html cpn 16:12:15 Chair: Bin_Hu 16:12:24 RRSAgent: draft minutes 16:12:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html cpn 16:13:27 Scribe: Chris Needham 16:13:36 RRSAgent: draft minutes 16:13:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/10-tvapi-minutes.html cpn 16:19:57 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 16:40:18 cpn has left #tvapi 17:33:05 w3c has joined #tvapi 17:45:21 w3c1 has joined #tvapi 17:54:12 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 18:44:50 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 19:10:15 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 20:47:20 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 20:57:38 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 21:23:09 w3c has joined #tvapi 21:24:26 w3c1 has joined #tvapi 21:31:27 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 22:06:26 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 22:59:04 jcverdie has joined #tvapi