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vivienne: progress on accessible wayfinding progress - topic is up there, but haven't added anything
Christos: hasn't had time to work on the wayfinding, but from this week on will be able to put work into it
I should be able to put some stuff into it this weekend too
<sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/charter4
SH: charter shows we have 8 symposiums within the
next charter period. First was Justin/Sylvia in eLearning (November 2013), one
was for March, July and November
... ranking will be based on the remaining topics
... accessible wayfinding will be something perhaps for November. Too late for
July one, but could be for November. We want to cover the entire set of
symposia. If we can run this one in November, we will need to have confirmed
symposium and ready to go to announcement for July.
... need catalogue topic - need to make announcement in September.
Christos: timeline is do-able
annika: should be able to get catalogue items ready - should be okay with this time
SA: aren't we still prioritizing topics? good to create a catalogue items, but what about the 'web of things' as we were hoping to get people from one of the other working groups. We could have 1 for October too.
SH: should be able to have them close together.
We have some to make up. We did this with Easy to Read and Text
Customization
... should have this ready end of July - people will be away in August so
people won't be available then. We need to be ready to go for beginning of
September
Need everything that should be ready for end of July
SH: welcome Bim Egan to the group - has done lots of work looking at the draft reports
BE: provided an introduction - part of WAI-ACT project. Started work on tutorials, but now doing more on communications/accessibility. Worked for RNIB as Senior Accessibility Technologist, Web Author BBC.
introductions by the group members for Bim
SH: thanks to Bim for helping with getting reports sorted - reading and editing for the metrics note
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Research_Topics
SH: will edit the wiki in real time, some will be
shelved, some will be catalogue topics, some will be symposia
... look at raw topics first
... will announce the topic and we can discuss
good luck on minuting this!
<markel> +1
<christos> +1
+1
SH: authoring accessibility (Simon's addition).
<justin> shelve
Don't know?
okay, makes sense - I say shelve it
MV: vote for keep it in list
<christos> I agree with shelving it... too many other interesting topics
SA: at least as a catalogue topic
<sharper> * [[Authoring Accessibility]] (Simple, Authoring Language, Rapid Development.)
SH: summary - suggested shelving it, but some of the email and on the call suggest we keep it in top most wanted.
Item 2: guideline specification languages
SH: suggest catalogue topic
Christos: could be interesting - agree for catalogue topic
SA: borderline - catalogue & shelving
... might take quite a bit of research to get ready
SH: shelve it for now
Item 3: open research frameworks & toolkits
SH: was thinking about ACTF toolkit and others.
Can't see anyone wanting to have this from emails. Suggest shelve
... no comments - so shelve it
Item 4 - Web Inclusion
SA: a number of people expressed interest in the email. Need the research questions to be clearly identified.
I'd like it on the list
SH: this one is on the list
Item 4 - web page sampling
SH: shelve? maybe a catalogue topic
Markel - like the topic but needs specialised people
Shadi - we have lots of evaluation topics already
Annika - sampling topic has been discussed in Eval Method and reviews there.
Christos - agree
Vivienne
Suggest we leave this one off
<christos> shelved
SH: shelve
... Ubiquitous Web Accessibility - 3 people have it in their top 5
SA: relates to web of things and wearables
... if its combined with wearables it could be good
Markel: some things could be joined - this could be in Internet of Things
<christos> +1 on merging...
SH: see about combining with Internet of Things?
+1
SH: propose to combine it with Web of Things
User Evaluation Methods for Web Accessibility Evlauation
SH: should it be in most-wanted or on the top 10?
SA: want this one as a catalogue entry - too narrow for a symposium. Would take a lot of resources to agree on the scope
Christos: it is an interesting topic - we have discussed this some already - based on a process rather than checklist. This falls within the process realm and could be interesting.
SA: how much could we do in a symposia
Christos: could find out
SA: don't have hope we can get consensus, could
highlight different methods on which is the best way in a symposium
... suggest that Vivienne and Annika put it in a wiki topic - would the
research questions look like?
SH: put it into a catalogue topic because the 3 people who are most vocal are the ones doing some of the next symposiums
<christos> 2 in the price of 1!
SH: could put it in a catalogue topic and then it could be developed further into a symposium in the future
Vivienne/Christos/Annika okay with that - put it into a catalogue topic
Benefits of Accessibility - there isn't anything in there
<shadi> +1 to catalog for user evaluation - would highlight the research questions
Accessible Security - isn't on anyone's list.
MV: means authentication methods and similar - could be joined to another
Christos: privacy in terms of mechanisms to ensure privacy - not sure of the other aspects
SH: put this into the catalogue topic and Markel could look at security/privacy aspects - could be brought back to the group for a symposium later
MV: happy to go with a catalogue topic first
Cloud Computing Accessibility
SH: suggest adding Cloud to Ubiquitous
<justin> agrred
SH: put them into a catalogue topic initially
<christos> +1
+1
<justin> +1
<annika> +1
SH: there are good questions to ask here in this topic.
Accessible Ads
<christos> don't like it as well
SA: a good idea, relating to benefits of accessibility. We have lots of other topics - suggest shelving it for now.
MV: Peter would be able to give more information on this - can be put back in later
Personally I'd like to see video ads with captions, then I'd be happy!
CSS accessibility
SA: very broad topic - shelve for now
... people with visual impairments other than blindness have been under-served
with assistive technology. Could be potentially interesting for researchers -
using CSS in different ways for people who haven't been served well with AT
SH: bin it for now?
Technology for accessibility such as voice and Braille interface
SH: shelve it?
Virtual realty & augmented reality - combine?
SH: these have been put on the list by quite a few people
SA: there is a cluster of related topics - augmented, wearable, accessible way-finding, cloud
SH: could provide the basis for good research if
we can get these topics out there
... tangible/wearables are related also
<shadi> [[waerables - augmented - open linked data - way-finding - privacy - cloud ...]]