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ericp, are you here?
mehmet: want to hear more about RDF for Semantic Interop
ingeborg: Investigating OMOP (Observational Medical Outcomes)
Tony: It's POMR (Problem oriented
medical records)
... Interested in looking at an ont that represents FHIR. not
necessarily the transmissions of FHIR payloads, but
underpinnings and where it might migrate. i was looking
differently from what Claude and Josh were looking at.
... Discussed this at HL7 meeting last week.
mehmet: That ontology might be still used in Cleveland Clinic.
ingeborg: similar to the Sentinal
program, but uses a different data model.
... Would sem web be used to underly and link concepts?
... Interested in Medra / snomed mapping. Looks like OMOP may
do that.
tony: i downloaded the snomed
vocab in RDF. it's huge: 100MB.
... failed to load in protege -- too big.
ingeborg: they load the entire snomed. Using oracle create table language. constrain it to clinical section of snomed.
<scribe> ACTION: Ingeborg to investigage OMOP and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/20-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
david: who might be interested in
RDF for Sem Interop
... ?
tony: Peter Hendler is working
with RDFox triple store
... From Oxford Univ
... peter criticized the use of the RIM.
eric: RIM is for expressing any
problem.
... Act relationships are the analogy for how you would express
causation
... They invented a graph, and it had Act relationships, like
arcs in RDF, and specialized arcs for roles and
participations.
... Captures who did what to whom, but also captures causation.
TermInfo page talks about how you represent a particular
diagnosis with causation and severity -- how to represent it in
SNOMED and RIM.
... Type codes are fairly well debugged, and they're exactly
what you're looking for.
Tony: This leads to ORIM
Eric: I worked with Lloyd on the
ORIM, and it's just a MIF expressed as RDF.
... There's the concept of a relatinoship which would be an arc
as RDF.
... Action that's an observation, another that says behavior X
was caused by Y. If you skip the date and other things you can
write it as an arc.
tony: Is the relationship modeled as an entity? An object, as opposed to a property?
eric: Yes, it's an entity with a source, target and a type code. What we'd like is just that type code.
tony: Where is the ORIM?
eric: I'll dig up a copy from my
harddrive.
... It's on HL7 forge site.
... Lloyd as done all of the work on it to date.
... Want to talk about FDA in two weeks.
david: I should be able to talk more about the RDF for Sem Interop draft charter next week. I plan to update it a bit, per discussions so far.
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