IRC log of html-a11y on 2014-05-19

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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 2119
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 19 May 2014
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Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Sub-Group
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Chair: Mark Sadecki
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agenda+ Implementations
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agenda+ Testing
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agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat
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agenda+ Next Meeting
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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has now started
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+MarkS
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scribe: MarkS
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+[Microsoft]
22:02:06 [jaymunro]
zakim, microsoft has me
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+jaymunro; got it
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+cabanier
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zakim, take up next item
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agendum 1. "Implementations" taken up [from MarkS]
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RC: Submitted Pasches, there were memory leaks, I got feedback and resubmitted for feedback. Either tomorrow or wednesday it should be in FF.
22:04:29 [MarkS]
...if its in Nightly, it should be in release around september.
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MS: any progress getting drawFocus into release?
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RC: Approved by Safari and FF. FF will have it coming in September.
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...not enough support in blink just yet.
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...dominic was going to try to give them more info on it.
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...samsung and dominic are going to start working on hit regions in chrome.
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MS: would it help if we filed a bug for Safari?
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RC: I don't think that would help. someone just needs to decide to do it.
22:06:42 [MarkS]
..it would have to be in the next month or so to make it in this year.
22:07:15 [MarkS]
...drawFocus should be in the next safari (8), but Hit Region will probably not make it.
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JM: Microsoft is looking into it, so that is as far as I know.
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...confirmed from JMann that there is still no definitive news
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zakim, take up next item
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agendum 2. "Testing" taken up [from MarkS]
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http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#1
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http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#34
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MS: @@
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RC: I can send you a link to the discussion RE Blink
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zakim, take up next item
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agendum 3. "Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat" taken up [from MarkS]
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MS: When is the heartbeat scheduled for L2?
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JM: Paul has been talking about doing it at the same time we take L1 to CR
22:14:11 [MarkS]
...there are a couple of things that I think need to be updated.
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... drawSystemFocusRing needs to get removed again (reappeared) and then remove the sprite animation example
22:14:59 [MarkS]
...its currently broken, so should probably pull out.
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RC: I think we will have to branch again, remove stuff etc.
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...Level 2 would become Level 3
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JM: Level 2 will have a lot of updates that Level 3 won't
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RC: winding rules were implemented, path was implemented.
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...Ian has added a bunch of new stuff for adding texts that is not clear right now, so it should be a level 3 thing
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...not sure we need anything new for a11y right now
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ACTION: MarkS to log bug on focus ring in FF
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Created ACTION-252 - Log bug on focus ring in ff [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
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zakim, take up next item
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agendum 4. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MarkS]
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JM: Rik, it would be helpful if we started a list of what should stay in Level 2 and what should move to Level 3
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MS: Sounds like a bigger problem since canvas is an extension spec here and part of html5 at what wg
22:29:36 [MarkS]
JM: there are technical problems with cherry picking (overwriting our changes) but also no discussion on the changes.
22:29:54 [MarkS]
...I like the idea of branching and then pick and choose what gets brought in.
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RC: take whats there now, branch it and clean it up.
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MS: is this something we want to do by the Heartbeat?
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JM: might be a good idea
22:32:18 [MarkS]
MS: OK, I can start a wiki then and we can work on what stays and goes there
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-cabanier
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-[Microsoft]
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ACTION: MarkS to talk to HTML about the branching L2, creating L3 and starting new canvas telecon
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Created ACTION-253 - Talk to html about the branching l2, creating l3 and starting new canvas telecon [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
22:34:11 [MarkS]
s/@@/learned a lot about canvas recently preparing slides for talk and should be able to start writing tests.
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-MarkS
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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended
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Attendees were MarkS, jaymunro, cabanier
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html MarkS
22:36:07 [cabanier]
MarkS: Blink patch for hit regions: https://codereview.chromium.org/287163007/
22:37:59 [cabanier]
MarkS: you might be able to subscribe to that patch
22:38:15 [cabanier]
MarkS: chrome bug is here: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=328961 (with the comments from Dominic)
22:38:38 [MarkS]
awesome, thanks Rik