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13:58:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:58:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
13:58:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:58:42 <trackbot> Date: 12 May 2014
13:59:32 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
13:59:39 <Zakim> +??P7
13:59:48 <deiu> Zakim, ??P7 is me
13:59:48 <Zakim> +deiu; got it
13:59:59 <Zakim> +Arnaud
14:01:10 <deiu> Zakim, mute me please
14:01:10 <Zakim> deiu should now be muted
14:01:31 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:01:41 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me
14:01:41 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
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14:02:19 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
14:03:25 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:03:40 <TallTed> Zakim,  OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:03:40 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:04:51 <JohnArwe> regrets: ashok, pierre-antoine, sergio
14:06:30 <TallTed> scribenick: TallTed
14:06:40 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
14:06:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see deiu (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, TallTed
14:06:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, Zakim, RRSAgent, nmihindu, betehess, deiu, TallTed, stevebattle1119, SteveS, jmvanel, Arnaud, sandro, trackbot, Yves, ericP
14:07:32 <deiu> Zakim, unmute me please
14:07:32 <Zakim> deiu should no longer be muted
14:07:40 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:08:25 <deiu> Zakim, mute me please
14:08:25 <Zakim> deiu should now be muted
14:09:00 <TallTed> Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 5 May teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-05-05
14:09:22 <SteveS> looks fine to me, after quick scan
14:09:44 <JohnArwe> good enough for commonscribe, good enough for me
14:09:54 <TallTed> RESOLVED: Approve the minutes of the 5 May teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-05-05
14:10:30 <TallTed> RESOLVED:  next meeting: May 19, usual time
14:10:44 <TallTed> TOPIC: Open Actions & Issues
14:10:51 <JohnArwe> action-138?
14:10:51 <trackbot> action-138 -- Sandro Hawke to Follow up on resolution about moving rel=describedby text -- due 2014-04-22 -- OPEN
14:10:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/138
14:11:19 <Zakim> +ericP
14:11:38 <JohnArwe> action-118?
14:11:38 <trackbot> action-118 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to Report to timbl: some pref for reverting to 303, 200+header still on the table, henry considering 200+location -- due 2013-12-23 -- OPEN
14:11:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/118
14:12:24 <Zakim> +??P12
14:12:38 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P12 is me
14:12:38 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
14:12:44 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
14:12:44 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted
14:13:33 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp
14:13:49 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp.ttl
14:14:26 <Zakim> +bblfish
14:14:37 <JohnArwe> the intent is to serve /ldp + Accept headers as things other than html?
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14:14:57 <TallTed> [ chatter about css tweaks and other adjustments to namespace docs ]
14:14:59 <bblfish> hi sorry for being later
14:17:07 <nmihindu> Arnaud, Ashok has completed the action-70 probably he will confirm in the next call
14:17:13 <bblfish> s/later/late/
14:17:23 <deiu> Zakim, unmute me please
14:17:23 <Zakim> deiu should no longer be muted
14:18:31 <deiu> Zakim, mute me please
14:18:31 <Zakim> deiu should now be muted
14:18:32 <TallTed> [ conversational review of various works in progress ]
14:18:38 <TallTed> TOPIC: LDP Spec
14:19:07 <TallTed> Arnaud: drafted Transition Request - http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDP_CR_Transition_Request
14:20:36 <TallTed> ... LC comments and associated resolutions have been carefully reviewed, and editorial application to doc confirmed
14:21:45 <TallTed> ... most comments have been addressed to satisfaction of commenters; Reto's comments on null URI are all that lack confirmation of satisfaction
14:23:38 <TallTed> ACTION: ericP to schedule concall for LDP Spec transition to CR
14:23:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-140 - Schedule concall for ldp spec transition to cr [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2014-05-19].
14:23:45 <TallTed> TOPIC: Test Suite
14:25:31 <TallTed> SteveS: licensing review in progress; test item development moving forward...
14:26:25 <TallTed> TOPIC: Access Control
14:26:59 <SteveS> ericP, fetching of namespace docs looks right
14:27:32 <TallTed> bblfish: will work with Ashok to integrate feedback, wondering about feedback on feedback...
14:27:41 <bblfish> Access control doc seems like it's on the right track. Sent in some comments and need to work with Ashok on that, but should be ok.
14:27:53 <TallTed> TOPIC: Best Practices & Guidelines
14:28:06 <bblfish> Mhh, should read that too
14:28:07 <ericP> tx for the looksee, SteveS
14:28:14 <nmihindu> I think it's ready to be published
14:28:31 <nmihindu> if the issue that was raised by Sandro is resolved
14:29:03 <nmihindu> the issue which was about relative URIs
14:30:22 <TallTed> TOPIC: LDP Primer
14:30:53 <nmihindu> we had feedback from bblfish about the introductory text
14:31:10 <TallTed> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/tip/ldp-primer/ldp-primer.html
14:31:26 <bblfish> q+
14:31:26 <nmihindu> Roger is planning to address those
14:31:44 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
14:32:23 <TallTed> bblfish: these are big docs, and take some time and effort to review properly
14:32:55 <nmihindu> bblfish, it is already in the repo
14:33:09 <nmihindu> bblfish, any minor corrections you can do it directly there
14:34:00 <nmihindu> bblfish, but if you want to change the text that was introduced by Roger drastically, you have to check with Roger first
14:34:20 <nmihindu> bblfish, I think we all have write access to those documents
14:35:16 <nmihindu> bblfish, or may be you can use a branch as you suggested
14:36:21 <TallTed> TOPIC: status of 209 code
14:37:05 <TallTed> ericP: TAG said they were going to send something; I'll follow up on that
14:37:26 <TallTed> TOPIC: LDP Paging spec
14:37:41 <TallTed> Arnaud: draft is at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-paging.html
14:38:07 <TallTed> ... 2 open issues (94 and 96)
14:38:18 <TallTed> issue-94?
14:38:18 <trackbot> issue-94 -- Stable vs lossy paging -- open
14:38:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/94
14:38:23 <TallTed> issue-96?
14:38:23 <trackbot> issue-96 -- Can we define ordering for LDPRs? -- open
14:38:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/96
14:39:09 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_3
14:39:23 <TallTed> ... Sandro had made a rough proposal as of F2F5, which we resolved to work from
14:43:00 <TallTed> [ discussion - Issue-94 seems resolved, but needs action created in order to close ]
14:43:34 <TallTed> PROPOSED: Close Issue-94 based on http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_3 with Action on Arnaud to follow up
14:43:50 <deiu> +1
14:43:50 <TallTed> +1
14:43:55 <nmihindu> +1
14:43:58 <sandro> +1
14:44:09 <JohnArwe> +1
14:44:19 <SteveS> +1
14:44:27 <TallTed> RESOLVED: Close Issue-94 based on http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_3 with Action on Arnaud to follow up
14:44:29 <SteveS> regarding paging editing…I don’t know if I can get to any of it in coming weeks, still learning about what workload is coming back from week off
14:44:51 <JohnArwe> maybe ashok can help
14:44:53 <TallTed> Action: Arnaud to follow up with Paging Spec editors to implement  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_3
14:44:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-141 - Follow up with paging spec editors to implement  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_3 [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2014-05-19].
14:44:57 <TallTed> Action: Arnaud to follow up with Paging Spec editors to implement  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_4
14:44:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-142 - Follow up with paging spec editors to implement  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-04-17#resolution_4 [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2014-05-19].
14:46:38 <TallTed> Arnaud: since paging was moved from only LDPCs to all LDPRs, some things need to be revisited to make them handle LDPRs
14:46:46 <sandro> q+
14:46:55 <Arnaud> ack sandro
14:46:57 <JohnArwe> so we're now on issue-96
14:47:01 <JohnArwe> issue-96?
14:47:01 <trackbot> issue-96 -- Can we define ordering for LDPRs? -- open
14:47:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/96
14:47:43 <TallTed> sandro: in general the answer for graphs is, just don't do it. graphs should just be designed to be smaller.
14:48:31 <TallTed> ... general advice is to keep resources to under 10 MB
14:49:52 <JohnArwe> +1 to sandro
14:49:54 <bblfish> sounds like a good compromise: paging on graphs, ordering on containers
14:50:42 <JohnArwe> we choose not to
14:50:43 <TallTed> PROPOSED: close issue-96 with ordering undefined when paging LDPRs
14:50:57 <deiu> +1
14:50:58 <SteveS> +1
14:51:05 <nmihindu> +0
14:51:06 <TallTed> +0.5
14:51:07 <sandro> +1 (non-LDPC LDPRs, of course.)
14:51:12 <JohnArwe> +1, seeing no clear proximate need to go beyond what we have now
14:51:16 <bblfish> +0 I'll go with what others agree with
14:51:37 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close issue-96 with ordering undefined when paging LDPRs
14:51:43 <deiu> scribe: deiu
14:52:12 <deiu> Arnaud: as of now, all issues seem to be closed, so we just need to reflect all the resolutions in the specs
14:52:15 <deiu> ... we can have a review cycle and publish it as LC
14:52:17 <JohnArwe> I do like the notion of not standing in the way of someone else/ourselves in the future if they want to re-use the concept AND the syntax on resources/for uses we don't see clearly today.
14:52:34 <deiu> ...the editors may not be available now, so we're taking volunteers
14:52:47 <deiu> ...otherwise we'll have to wait
14:53:04 <deiu> ...this is the end of the agenda, so unless anyone has something they want to bring up, we can close early
14:53:11 <deiu> ...no other business? guess not
14:53:17 <deiu> ...let's close the call
14:53:24 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:53:25 <bblfish> thanks all
14:53:26 <Zakim> -SteveS
14:53:37 <Zakim> -nmihindu
14:53:46 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
14:53:47 <Zakim> -deiu
14:53:48 <Zakim> -TallTed
14:53:49 <Zakim> -bblfish
14:53:49 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:53:54 <Zakim> -ericP
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14:53:55 <Zakim> Attendees were deiu, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, TallTed, Sandro, ericP, nmihindu, bblfish
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