12:56:24 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:56:24 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/05/09-dwbp-irc 12:56:30 Zakim has joined #dwbp 12:56:52 PhilA_ has left #dwbp 12:57:08 phila has joined #dwbp 12:57:28 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 12:57:29 EricKauz has joined #DWBP 12:59:05 laufer has joined #dwbp 12:59:08 jerdeb has joined #DWBP 12:59:13 Zakim, who is on the phone? 12:59:13 sorry, JoaoPauloAlmeida, I don't know what conference this is 12:59:15 On IRC I see jerdeb, laufer, EricKauz, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, ivan, trackbot 12:59:32 zakim, this will be dwbp 12:59:32 ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started 12:59:33 Eric Kauz calling in from area code 609 12:59:42 Zakim, who is on the phone? 12:59:42 On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], +1.609.557.aaaa, ??P18 12:59:43 zakim, who is here? 12:59:43 On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], +1.609.557.aaaa, ??P18 12:59:45 On IRC I see jerdeb, laufer, EricKauz, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, ivan, trackbot 12:59:51 -??P15 13:00:02 Zakim, ??P18 is probably me 13:00:02 +JoaoPauloAlmeida?; got it 13:00:06 +HadleyBeeman 13:00:08 -JoaoPauloAlmeida? 13:00:14 +??P15 13:00:16 Zakim, who is on the call 13:00:16 I don't understand 'who is on the call', JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:00:18 +??P18 13:00:19 Zakim, ??p15 is me 13:00:20 +BartvanLeeuwen; got it 13:00:21 Zakim, who is on the phone? 13:00:21 On the phone I see [IPcaller], +1.609.557.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P18 13:00:28 -[IPcaller] 13:00:35 +[IPcaller] 13:00:39 zakim, ipcaller is me 13:00:39 +phila; got it 13:00:48 +[IPcaller] 13:00:50 Zakim, who is talking 13:00:50 I don't understand 'who is talking', BartvanLeeuwen 13:00:51 Zakim, caller is me 13:00:52 sorry, JoaoPauloAlmeida, I do not recognize a party named 'caller' 13:00:57 Zakim, IPcaller is me 13:00:57 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 13:00:57 zakim, aaaa is EricKauz 13:00:57 Zakim, ??P18 is me 13:00:58 +EricKauz; got it 13:00:58 +jerdeb; got it 13:01:04 Zakim, mute me 13:01:04 JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted 13:01:05 zakim, who is here? 13:01:05 On the phone I see EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, jerdeb, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted) 13:01:08 On IRC I see jerdeb, laufer, EricKauz, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, ivan, trackbot 13:02:15 markharrison has joined #dwbp 13:02:39 HadleyBeeman has joined #dwbp 13:03:14 +[IPcaller] 13:03:21 zakim, who is here? 13:03:21 On the phone I see EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, jerdeb, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), [IPcaller] 13:03:23 On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, markharrison, jerdeb, laufer, EricKauz, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, ivan, trackbot 13:03:28 zakim, ipcaller is me 13:03:28 +laufer; got it 13:03:36 topic should be https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140509 13:03:39 + +44.122.374.aabb 13:03:53 JoaoPauloAlmeida has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140509 13:03:55 zakim, aabb is markharrison 13:03:55 +markharrison; got it 13:04:01 thx for teaching me 13:04:57 I can do it 13:05:06 scribe: joaopauloalmeida 13:05:10 Zakim, unmute me 13:05:10 JoaoPauloAlmeida should no longer be muted 13:05:13 https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-04-25 13:05:22 PROPOSED: accept last weekā€™s minutes 13:05:31 +1 13:05:33 a bit of a delay as I am warming up 13:05:33 +1 13:05:36 (2nd time as scribe) 13:05:38 Sorry to be a pedant, last week's minutes are at http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-02 13:05:40 +1 13:05:43 Zakim, unmute me 13:05:44 JoaoPauloAlmeida was not muted, JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:05:46 +Makx_Dekkers 13:05:53 +1 13:06:23 +1 13:06:40 +Caroline 13:06:43 RESOLVED: accept last weekā€™s minutes 13:06:47 +1 13:06:51 MakxDekkers has joined #dwbp 13:07:17 -Makx_Dekkers 13:07:21 yaso has joined #dwbp 13:07:45 topic: Agree editors/contributors for each of the deliverables 13:07:59 Zakim, yaso has newton, 13:07:59 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:08:01 MakxDekkers has joined #dwbp 13:08:05 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Deliverables 13:08:16 regrets: Steve, Deirdre, Bernadette, Antoine, Ivan, Eric Stephan, Ig 13:08:33 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:08:36 Zakim, Yaso has Nathalia 13:08:36 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso' 13:08:48 newton has joined #dwbp 13:08:48 zakim, yaso has nathalia 13:08:49 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:09:05 flavio has joined #dwbp 13:09:24 HadleyBeeman: is anyone interested in being series editor for best practices 13:10:08 HadleyBeeman: clarifies what this responsability means 13:10:33 Bernadette is not yet on the IRC 13:10:34 Background on this - Biran McBride gets his name on all 2004 RDF specs, see, for example, http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-concepts-20040210/ 13:10:34 ? 13:10:42 s/Biran/Brain/ 13:10:51 s/Brain/Brian/ 13:11:01 Zakim, yaso has nathalia, newton 13:11:01 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:11:19 In HadleyBeeman's e-mail she describes series editor as those who 'who will be "big picture" thinkers. They will identify areas we haven't covered but should, make sure the various sections can flow together, and supervise publication' 13:11:40 CarlosIglesias has joined #dwbp 13:12:28 +??P24 13:12:40 zakim, ??p24 is really me 13:12:40 +CarlosIglesias; got it 13:13:07 +Makx_Dekkers 13:13:10 vagner has joined #dwbp 13:13:35 topic: contributors to specific practices (as part of the best practices document) 13:13:36 I'd like to be involved in URI design and presistence 13:13:50 HadleyBeeman: who is interested in BP: URI design and management for persistence? 13:13:51 likely me too 13:13:58 I'm too 13:14:03 I can take an action item to contact Tomas about this 13:15:04 I'm interested in URI design also 13:15:07 action: phil to contact Tomas Carassoco re working on URI BPs 13:15:07 Created ACTION-33 - Contact tomas carassoco re working on uri bps [on Phil Archer - due 2014-05-16]. 13:15:25 If Antoine is willing to lead on the Data Quańity, I'll be happy to help but have limited time 13:15:34 Zakim, whoā€™s on the phone 13:15:34 I don't understand 'whoā€™s on the phone', yaso 13:15:44 -jerdeb 13:15:44 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:15:45 On the phone I see EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, laufer, markharrison, Caroline, CarlosIglesias, Makx_Dekkers 13:15:59 +q 13:16:10 ack MakxDekkers 13:16:18 HadleyBeeman: asks who would like to be involved in "BP: Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability" 13:16:25 who is speaking? 13:16:38 Is MakxDekkers, Adriano 13:16:49 s/Adriano/JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:17:00 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Deliverables 13:17:00 MakxDekkers will participate in the effort for "URI design and management for persistence" 13:17:07 +1 13:17:32 again HadleyBeeman: asks who would like to be involved in "BP: Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability" 13:17:42 So, BartvanLeeuwen has volunteered 13:17:46 I did by e-mail 13:17:55 Zakim, vagner is yaso 13:17:55 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'vagner' 13:18:09 Zakim, Caroline is Yaso 13:18:09 +Yaso; got it 13:18:16 EricKauz is also volunteering 13:18:20 +q 13:18:23 + +3567922aacc 13:18:27 zakim, yaso has newton, flavio, nathalia 13:18:27 +newton, flavio, nathalia; got it 13:18:31 +[IPcaller] 13:18:33 HadleyBeeman asks about BP: Guidance on the provision of metadata 13:18:38 -[IPcaller] 13:18:42 +1 on that 13:18:54 - +3567922aacc 13:18:58 would like also to contribute 13:19:11 I am interested to be a contributor on guidance on the provision of metadata 13:19:17 Giancarlo_Guizzardi has joined #DWBP 13:19:36 I am happy t o help on BP for metadata 13:19:43 +[IPcaller] 13:19:51 * bart that's a problem yes 13:20:01 +Yaso.a 13:20:19 HadleyBeeman asks about volunteers for: "BP: Publishing and accessing versions of datasets" 13:20:28 + +3567922aadd 13:20:28 zakim, mute me 13:20:28 Makx_Dekkers should now be muted 13:20:42 Zakim, aadd is me 13:20:43 +jerdeb; got it 13:20:45 Zakim, Yaso.a is Vagner 13:20:45 +Vagner; got it 13:20:51 zakim, mute laufer 13:20:51 laufer should now be muted 13:21:02 I'm volunteer on BP: publishing and accessing versions of datasets 13:21:35 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 13:21:51 Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: 13:22:01 q+ to ask for a recap 13:22:12 -Makx_Dekkers 13:22:32 markharrison volunteered 13:22:52 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices 13:22:53 ack phil 13:22:53 phila, you wanted to ask for a recap 13:23:04 -q 13:23:09 markharrison: volunteered as contributor (not editor) for Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets 13:23:13 * call dropped can't get back in 13:23:50 ? 13:24:31 zakim, umute me 13:24:31 I don't understand 'umute me', laufer 13:24:32 I will work together with Joao Paulo on Core Vocabularies 13:24:40 zakim, unmute me 13:24:40 laufer should no longer be muted 13:25:10 MakxDekkers has joined #dwbp 13:25:37 phila, you forgot to add me (JoĆ£o Paulo) not only Giancarlo 13:25:40 q- 13:25:44 for core vocabs 13:25:53 HadleyBeeman asks for volunteers to BP: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication 13:25:53 +Makx_Dekkers 13:25:57 I'm interested in Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication 13:26:43 HadleyBeeman asks for volunteers to BP: Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation 13:26:48 I'm interestedTechnical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation: 13:26:51 I'm interested too 13:27:08 Yes, Iā€™m interested in this topic to 13:27:10 too 13:27:11 HadleyBeeman also volunteers 13:27:22 I want to be a contributor on Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication 13:28:00 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 13:28:15 Can you take me off Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability, please? 13:28:33 HadleyBeeman asks for volunteers to BP: Data preservation 13:29:08 With luck this https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices is up to date an accurate 13:29:13 HadleyBeeman reports that, in e-mail Ig volunteered to use of vocabularies to improve interoperability 13:29:27 Phila, can we attach identifiers to these parts of BP? 13:29:37 (later) 13:29:45 URIs ? 13:30:03 ;) 13:30:15 i'm interested in the data quality vocabulary 13:30:25 Phil, I'll be a contributor on Publishing and accessing versions of datasets with Flavio 13:30:30 Happy to help there too 13:30:46 Data Quality, that is 13:31:01 +Vagner.a 13:31:54 Zakim, who is in the phone? 13:31:54 I don't understand your question, vagner. 13:31:59 BartvanLeeuwen and antoine volunteer to edit the Data quality vocabulary 13:32:36 Zakim, who is on the phone? 13:32:36 On the phone I see EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, laufer, markharrison, Yaso, CarlosIglesias, [IPcaller], Vagner, jerdeb, Makx_Dekkers, Vagner.a 13:32:40 Yaso has newton, flavio, nathalia 13:32:43 HadleyBeeman: asks now about data usage vocabulary 13:33:06 Caroline__ has joined #dwbp 13:34:49 TOPIC: review of open actions 13:35:04 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open 13:35:25 action-31 13:35:25 action-31 -- Carlos Iglesias to Do mapping between the best practices and challenges and the requirements and add concrete examples -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN 13:35:25 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/31 13:36:26 CarlosIglesias went through 1/3 of the best practices 13:37:29 CarlosIglesias reports that found some completeness issues (in the relations between best practices and challenges) 13:37:42 he speculates that new challenges may be added, or use cases ammended 13:38:15 HadleyBeeman:in principle, it should not be a problem to have flexible use cases 13:38:40 HadleyBeeman: is the effort worthwhile? 13:39:22 q+ to talk about mapping 13:39:28 CarlosIglesias: useful as an exercise (interesting) to discover new things 13:39:53 ack me 13:39:53 phila, you wanted to talk about mapping 13:39:57 CarlosIglesias: not sure on the implications for the rest of the work (difficult to assess) 13:40:21 phila: important in the standards we write that we base our efforts on documented use cases 13:40:34 phila: so linking use cases and our contributions is key 13:40:57 phila: as it documents evidence of the relevance of the standardization efforts 13:41:18 rrsagent, make logs public 13:41:44 CarlosIglesias: will attempt to advance significantly by next week in action-31 13:42:35 zakim, who is noisy? 13:42:47 HadleyBeeman, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (63%), CarlosIglesias (13%) 13:43:00 action-32 13:43:00 action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN 13:43:00 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32 13:43:03 I'm offering to help Carlos if he assigned me tasks to do and be a nice boss. 13:43:41 q+ 13:43:44 HadleyBeeman: not yet completed, topic comes up in several efforts 13:43:54 ack phil 13:44:09 HadleyBeeman: will still elaborate on her "dislike" of catalogues 13:44:14 :) 13:44:20 s/assigned/assignes 13:44:24 -> https://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/images/8/89/Share-PSI_FederationTool_v01_en_paper.pdf Paper on federation in Spain 13:45:01 phila: Paper from a Spanish network discusses a related topic 13:45:20 phila: a federated approach that seems to be working in Spain and that is based on the publication of metadata 13:45:55 thanks for offering vagner! will follow up with you and promise to be a good boy! 13:47:16 HadleyBeeman asked about UML diagrams for Data quality 13:48:08 that makes sense, i.e., to have a separated call for that 13:48:24 I would definitely be interested as well in contributing to the discussion 13:49:07 phila: Should have a separated call for Data quality discussion, a mailing list exists 13:50:32 action Bart to coordinate with Antoine about the Data quality effort 13:50:32 Created ACTION-34 - Coordinate with antoine about the data quality effort [on Bart van Leeuwen - due 2014-05-16]. 13:51:20 action Hadley to contact Bernadette and Eric Stephan to coordinate about the data usage effort 13:51:20 Created ACTION-35 - Contact bernadette and eric stephan to coordinate about the data usage effort [on Hadley Beeman - due 2014-05-16]. 13:52:34 HadleyBeeman: it would be great if one of the current volunteers to "URI design and management for persistence" would take the lead 13:52:42 Newton is volunteering 13:53:24 HadleyBeeman: what about guidance on the provision of metadata? 13:53:33 Hadley: who will take the lead? 13:54:10 * may be too much for me at the same time, sorry 13:54:24 Hadley, could you help me to write my action? 13:54:33 Bernadette said "I'd like to decide if I'm gonna participate as a contributor or a co-editor in the meeting of next week." 13:55:10 q+ to talk about tools and support 13:55:22 ack me 13:55:22 phila, you wanted to talk about tools and support 13:55:24 adrianoc has joined #DWBP 13:55:42 Laufer will take the lead (even though he states he is unfamiliar with the procedures) 13:55:55 action: newton to start the process of creating a URI design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors 13:55:55 Created ACTION-36 - Start the process of creating a uri design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-05-16]. 13:56:06 -jerdeb 13:56:11 Thank you Hadley :) 13:56:16 no problem :) 13:57:08 phila says the group should favor wiki not google docs 13:57:49 @vagner, I did see Bernadette's email. I don't want to commit her to any work with her not here. Hopefully she can tell us what she'd like to do next week. 13:58:06 phila there is some support for w3c tools, he can help with that 13:59:00 HadleyBeeman: as chair will also support those that need help with tools/formatting 13:59:30 \o/ Yes 13:59:47 action: yaso to Start the process of creating a Technical factors document with the other contributors 13:59:47 Created ACTION-37 - Start the process of creating a technical factors document with the other contributors [on Yaso CĆ³rdova - due 2014-05-16]. 14:00:18 :) 14:01:20 jerdeb_ has joined #DWBP 14:01:39 action laufer to Start the process of creating a document on the best practices on the provision of metadata 14:01:39 Created ACTION-38 - Start the process of creating a document on the best practices on the provision of metadata [on Carlos Laufer - due 2014-05-16]. 14:01:40 ok 14:01:58 HadleyBeeman: we are out of time, thanks to all 14:02:06 bye 14:02:08 -[IPcaller] 14:02:11 -Vagner.a 14:02:13 -markharrison 14:02:13 bye! 14:02:13 bye 14:02:14 bye 14:02:17 -BartvanLeeuwen 14:02:17 bye 14:02:19 -EricKauz 14:02:22 -CarlosIglesias 14:02:23 -Makx_Dekkers 14:02:28 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 14:02:45 -laufer 14:02:46 zakim, who is here? 14:02:46 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, phila, laufer, Yaso, Vagner 14:02:48 Yaso has newton, flavio, nathalia 14:02:48 On IRC I see jerdeb_, adrianoc, Caroline__, JoaoPauloAlmeida, flavio, newton, yaso, HadleyBeeman, markharrison, laufer, phila, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, ivan, trackbot 14:03:00 -laufer 14:03:03 -Vagner 14:03:03 -Yaso 14:17:50 -HadleyBeeman 14:17:52 -phila 14:17:52 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended 14:17:52 Attendees were +1.609.557.aaaa, JoaoPauloAlmeida?, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, EricKauz, jerdeb, laufer, +44.122.374.aabb, markharrison, Makx_Dekkers, 14:17:52 ... 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