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13:58:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:58:54 <trackbot> Date: 17 April 2014
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14:00:44 <nigel> zakim, ??P24 is me
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14:01:47 <nigel> chair: nigel
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14:08:20 <nigel> topic: TPAC 2014
14:08:50 <nigel> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
14:08:55 <plh> Nigel: survey is still open
14:09:27 <plh> ... we have yes and prefer on Monday
14:09:43 <plh> ... looks like we're looking at Monday and Friday at themoment
14:09:56 <plh> ... Glenn would prefer not Monday
14:10:50 <plh> Glenn: any tentative schedule yet?
14:11:02 <plh> plh: not yet
14:11:21 <plh> ... HTML and WebApps will likely be usual
14:11:40 <plh> NigeL: Timed Text CG would be nice to meet with
14:11:45 <plh> ... didn't talk with David yet
14:12:12 <plh> Plh: we don't provide space for CGs to meet during TPAC
14:12:35 <plh> Nigel: we should invite them to join one of our sessions then
14:12:46 <plh> plh: sounds reasonable
14:13:01 <plh> Nigel: for agenda items: TTML 2
14:13:29 <plh> ... survey is open until next week
14:14:06 <nigel> topic: IMSC progress
14:14:07 <plh> Topic: IMSC Progress
14:14:45 <plh> Pierre: my primary activity was to update the editors draft
14:14:48 <plh> ... now referencing TTML 1
14:14:59 <plh> ... name is ISMC 1.0 now
14:15:26 <plh> ... Id like this group to consider FPWD now
14:15:34 <plh> ... also some comments from John Birch
14:16:19 <plh> ... I don't think the comments were against publication. hard to find specific requested changes.
14:16:39 <plh> ... so didn't detect anything that were incompatible with FPWD
14:17:08 <plh> Nigel: correct, FPWD doesn't imply endorsement. I read John's email as proposing to help with editing
14:17:25 <plh> Pierre: I'd be glad to get more specific comments
14:17:52 <plh> Nigel: I sent some pubrules changes
14:18:04 <plh> Pierre: wasn't sure if those were proposed or final
14:18:31 <plh> Nigel: fair enough to get it out there
14:19:01 <plh> ... any objection to FPWD?
14:19:19 <plh> Resolved: IMSC 1.0 to be published as FPWD
14:19:59 <plh> Nigel: ok, let's get this decision to the list, give the 10 days, target publication: May 1
14:20:31 <plh> Pierre: ok, I'll get everything in order for then
14:20:53 <tmichel> ok give me the latest url so I start checking the document
14:21:18 <pal_> @tmichel: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-profiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
14:21:32 <plh> trackbot, list users
14:21:32 <trackbot> Sorry, plh, I don't understand 'trackbot, list users'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
14:21:42 <tmichel> I will take a look at it and will gone back to you next week
14:22:38 <pal_> @tmichel: thanks!
14:23:03 <plh> ttml-ww-profiles
14:23:31 <plh> imsc, ttml-imsc, t-imsc?
14:23:45 <plh> tt-imsc?
14:24:09 <tmichel> ttml-imsc
14:24:09 <plh> objection to ttml-imsc?
14:24:53 <plh> ttml-imsc1
14:25:35 <glenn> ttml1-imsc
14:25:38 <glenn> ttml2-imsc
14:25:39 <pal_> ttml1-imsc1?
14:26:31 <plh> Resolved to use ttml-imsc1
14:26:35 <tmichel> ok
14:27:27 <tmichel> so publication date should be first week of may ?
14:29:43 <plh> plh: how about adding the subject header in the status
14:30:07 <glenn> suggest headers use [IMSC] if not version specific or [IMSC1]/[IMSC2] otherwise
14:30:17 <plh> Resolved: use [ttml-imsc1] in the subject header of emails for comments
14:30:19 <tmichel> I will let you know what to add exactly
14:31:10 <tmichel> you acn add it into the "mailto"
14:31:23 <plh> Glenn: would prefer [imsc]
14:31:55 <plh> Pierre: +1
14:32:45 <plh> Resolved (again) : use [imsc] in the subject header of emails for comments
14:33:04 <plh> Nigel: can we do the same for ttml2 then?
14:33:35 <plh> Glenn: I would use [ttml], folks can add a version number if it's specific
14:34:05 <plh> ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the IMSC draft
14:34:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Add [imsc] subject header in the imsc draft [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2014-04-24].
14:34:36 <plh> ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in TTML drafts
14:34:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Use [ttml] in the subject header in ttml drafts [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-04-24].
14:35:19 <plh> Topic: Actions
14:35:35 <plh> action-215?
14:35:35 <trackbot> action-215 -- Glenn Adams to Specify special semantics for tts:{extent, origin} on content elements to map to new inline region feature -- due 2014-04-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:35:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
14:36:04 <plh> Nigel: this is related to issue 176
14:36:08 <plh> issue-176?
14:36:08 <trackbot> issue-176 -- Adding support for extent and origin attributes on block elements -- pending review
14:36:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
14:36:47 <plh> Glenn: didn't get comments
14:36:54 <plh> ... I suggest to close them
14:38:01 <plh> ... we have an editorial note for inline regions but that's independent
14:39:23 <plh> Nigel: not obvious they shouldn't be independent.
14:39:40 <nigel> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#layout-attribute-region
14:40:05 <plh> close issue-176
14:40:05 <trackbot> Closed issue-176.
14:40:10 <plh> close action-215
14:40:10 <trackbot> Closed action-215.
14:40:21 <plh> action-278?
14:40:21 <trackbot> action-278 -- Glenn Adams to Add ednote to 9.3.2 with reminder to deal with case of having multiple inline regions possibly with additional reference to out-of-line region -- due 2014-04-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:40:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
14:40:30 <plh> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
14:40:45 <plh> close action-278
14:40:45 <trackbot> Closed action-278.
14:41:24 <plh> Topic: action items overdue
14:41:33 <plh> action-274?
14:41:33 <trackbot> action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- OPEN
14:41:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
14:42:01 <plh> Nigel: we're looking at going ahead with the f2f
14:42:16 <plh> ... we can have an additional f2f before that time
14:42:24 <plh> ... Daivd favors it
14:42:33 <plh> ... I can host it in London
14:43:07 <plh> plh: timeframe?
14:43:11 <tmichel> Pierre, here is what should should add in SOTD section
14:43:14 <tmichel>   <p>
14:43:14 <tmichel>           This document was published by the <a href="http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/">Timed Text Working Group</a> as a First Public Working Draft.
14:43:14 <tmichel> 
14:43:14 <tmichel>             If you wish to make comments regarding this document, please send them to
14:43:15 <tmichel>             <a href="mailto:public-tt@w3.org?subject=%5BWD%20Comment%20imsc%5D">">public-tt@w3.org</a>
14:43:16 <tmichel>             (<a href="mailto:public-tt-request@w3.org?subject=subscribe">subscribe</a>,
14:43:18 <tmichel>             <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/">archives</a>).
14:43:18 <plh> Nigel: unclear at the moment
14:43:20 <tmichel>             Use "[WD comment imsc]" in the subject line of your email. All comments are welcome.
14:43:22 <tmichel> 
14:43:24 <tmichel>         </p>
14:44:06 <plh> Nigel: September?
14:44:36 <plh> Pierre: in that month, there is a SMPTE meeting, IVC
14:44:47 <plh> ... we would have to go around those events
14:45:17 <plh> ... s/IVC/IBC/
14:45:21 <plh> s/IVC/IBC/
14:45:38 <plh> Nigel: IVC is September 10 to 15 or 16
14:45:40 <pal_> http://www.ibc.org/
14:45:44 <plh> s/IVC/IBC/
14:46:33 <plh> Pierre: SMPTE is just after
14:47:43 <plh> Nigel: so IBC runs from 11 to 16
14:47:50 <nigel> http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarID=3/t=m
14:48:31 <plh> Pierre: SMPTE is probably September 17 to 21
14:48:35 <plh> ... in Geneva
14:48:46 <plh> Nigel: IBC is in AMsterdam
14:49:12 <plh> NigeL; squeezing in between would fail
14:50:09 <plh> Pierre: first day of SMPTE is flexible
14:50:49 <plh> Glenn: how about 16-17?
14:51:11 <plh> ACTION: Nigel to talk to Franz about hosting a meeting
14:51:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Talk to franz about hosting a meeting [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-04-24].
14:51:32 <nigel> s/Franz/Frans
14:52:29 <plh> Nigel: will continue to talk to David as well
14:52:55 <plh> Pierre: what would the goal be?
14:53:13 <plh> ... brainstorm first then solve remaining issues at the meeting?
14:53:53 <plh> Nigel: goal is to have both groups, looking at the concepts of both format
14:54:18 <plh> ... might go throught the logical concept first
14:54:27 <plh> Pierre: so, sounds like brainstorming
14:56:15 <nigel> Present: glenn, plh, tmichel, glenn, jdsmith, nigel
14:56:22 <nigel> scribeNick: plh
14:56:26 <glenn> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Overview.html
14:57:08 <plh> plh: btw, HTML wg talked about datacue last week
14:57:24 <plh> Jerry: should ttmlcue be in ttml spec?
14:58:06 <plh> Glenn: I started to work on it in November. would probably need a refresh
14:59:02 <plh> Plh: we ought to make sure on our mapping with HTML5 prior to the september meeting
14:59:19 <plh> Jerry: what's the timeline for the API?
14:59:29 <plh> Glenn: I'd like to the TTML1 API to be published
14:59:49 <plh> s/to the/the/
15:00:04 <plh> plh: differences between ttml 1 and 2 api?
15:00:38 <plh> Glenn: ttml1 is raw. for 2, I'd like to include more of the mapping
15:01:58 <plh> Topic: AOB
15:02:01 <plh> issue-304?
15:02:01 <trackbot> issue-304 -- Non-standard unqualified attributes not permitted -- open
15:02:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
15:02:20 <plh> Glenn: we also made progress on the TTML validator at w3c
15:02:35 <glenn> http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
15:03:02 <plh> ... that's the TTV tool
15:03:06 <plh> ... it's in beta
15:03:20 <plh> ... but folks can start playing with it
15:05:44 <plh> [adjourned]
15:05:49 <Zakim> -pal
15:05:50 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:05:50 <Zakim> -nigel
15:05:52 <Zakim> -Plh
15:05:52 <Zakim> -tmichel
15:05:54 <Zakim> -glenn
15:05:56 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:05:56 <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, Plh, nigel, [Microsoft], tmichel, pal
15:06:03 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:06:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html plh
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