12:58:24 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:58:24 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/04/04-dwbp-irc 12:58:31 rrsagent, make logs public 12:58:39 zakim, this will be dwbp 12:58:39 ok, PhilA; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 12:58:42 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started 12:58:49 + +1.609.557.aaaa 12:59:12 Eric_Kauz has joined #DWBP 12:59:23 +[IPcaller] 12:59:27 +[IPcaller.a] 12:59:30 zakim, ipcaller is me 12:59:30 +PhilA; got it 12:59:48 BernadetteLoscio has joined #dwbp 13:00:01 +laufer 13:00:15 zakim, mute me 13:00:15 sorry, laufer, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 13:00:21 zakim,aaaa is me 13:00:21 +Eric_Kauz; got it 13:00:23 cgueret has joined #dwbp 13:00:28 zakim, ipcaller.a is laufer 13:00:28 +laufer; got it 13:00:37 zakim, who is noisy? 13:00:44 +??P20 13:00:48 PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 3 (59%), PhilA (52%) 13:00:50 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #DWBP 13:00:52 zakim, ??P20 is me 13:00:52 +Ig_Bittencourt; got it 13:00:58 +??P21 13:01:04 ericstephan has joined #dwbp 13:01:04 zakim, who is here? 13:01:04 On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, PhilA, laufer, Ig_Bittencourt, ??P21 13:01:06 On IRC I see ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, trackbot 13:01:07 +??P24 13:01:10 zakim, mute me 13:01:10 Zakim, ??P21 is me 13:01:11 Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted 13:01:11 +BartvanLeeuwen; got it 13:01:12 zakim, ??P24 is me 13:01:12 +cgueret; got it 13:01:15 zakim, mute me 13:01:15 cgueret should now be muted 13:01:19 zakim, mute Eric_Kauz 13:01:19 Eric_Kauz should now be muted 13:01:20 hi there! 13:01:27 +[IPcaller] 13:01:27 zakim, unmute Eric_Kauz 13:01:28 Eric_Kauz should no longer be muted 13:01:31 Zakim, IPcaller us me 13:01:31 I don't understand 'IPcaller us me', JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:01:32 zakim, mute laufer 13:01:33 laufer should now be muted 13:01:38 zakim, unmute laufer 13:01:38 laufer should no longer be muted 13:01:41 Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:01:41 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 13:01:45 zakim, mute me 13:01:45 PhilA should now be muted 13:01:47 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:01:53 zakim, unmute 13:01:53 I don't understand 'unmute', PhilA 13:02:01 zakim, unmute me 13:02:01 PhilA should no longer be muted 13:02:12 zakim, laufer is really PhilA 13:02:12 +PhilA; got it 13:02:14 +ericstephan 13:02:26 +[IPcaller] 13:02:30 -laufer 13:02:34 Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:02:34 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 13:02:37 +laufer 13:02:40 + +1.516.944.aabb 13:02:49 zakim, unmute me 13:02:49 sorry, laufer, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 13:02:56 zakim, who is here? 13:02:56 On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, PhilA, PhilA.a, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, cgueret (muted), ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.516.944.aabb 13:02:59 On IRC I see ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, trackbot 13:02:59 Zakim, who is speaking? 13:03:01 adler1 has joined #dwbp 13:03:10 JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (50%), PhilA.a (95%) 13:03:16 -PhilA 13:03:30 zakim, who is here? 13:03:30 On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, PhilA.a, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, cgueret (muted), ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.516.944.aabb 13:03:32 zakim, aabb is me 13:03:33 On IRC I see adler1, ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, trackbot 13:03:33 +adler1; got it 13:03:37 zakim, phila.a is me 13:03:37 +PhilA; got it 13:03:42 zakim, who is here? 13:03:42 On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, cgueret (muted), ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1 13:03:45 On IRC I see adler1, ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, trackbot 13:03:58 +[IPcaller] 13:04:09 zakim, ipcaller is laufer 13:04:09 +laufer; got it 13:04:33 zakim, unmute me 13:04:33 laufer was not muted, laufer 13:04:36 + +44.122.374.aacc 13:04:37 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140404 13:04:45 chair: Steve 13:04:59 markharrison has joined #dwbp 13:05:14 +[IPcaller] 13:05:17 zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio 13:05:17 +BernadetteLoscio; got it 13:05:23 zakim, aacc is markharrison 13:05:24 +markharrison; got it 13:06:29 Steve: volunteers to scribe? 13:06:30 +[IPcaller] 13:06:32 I can scribe 13:06:37 deirdrelee has joined #dwbp 13:06:42 scribe: Ig_Bittencourt 13:06:42 zakim, unmute me 13:06:42 Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted 13:06:46 scribeNick: Ig_Bittencourt 13:06:56 +1 13:07:08 PROPOSAL: Accept last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-21 13:07:11 +1 13:07:13 Topic: approve last minutes 13:07:14 +1 13:07:15 +1 13:07:16 1 13:07:16 +1 13:07:17 `=1 13:07:18 +1 13:07:19 +1 13:07:20 +1 13:07:27 +1 13:07:40 APPROVED: Accept last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-21 13:07:49 MakxDekkers has joined #dwbp 13:08:24 PROPOSAL: accept this week's face to face meeting minutes 13:08:51 zakim, who is here? 13:08:51 On the phone I see Eric_Kauz, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, BartvanLeeuwen, cgueret (muted), ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, adler1, laufer, markharrison, BernadetteLoscio, [IPcaller] 13:08:53 see the agenda 13:08:53 Minutes from Monday http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-31 13:08:54 +1 13:08:55 On IRC I see MakxDekkers, deirdrelee, markharrison, adler1, ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, 13:08:55 ... BartvanLeeuwen, trackbot 13:09:02 http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-31 13:09:05 zamim [IPcaller] is me 13:09:09 Minutes from Tuesday http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-04-01 13:09:12 day 1: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-31 13:09:13 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:09:14 +deirdrelee; got it 13:09:21 Supplmentary minutes 1 http://www.w3.org/2014/04/01-dwbp-DataUsage-irc 13:10:01 so let's leave this is as for next week 13:10:07 +1 13:10:18 +1 13:10:22 +1 13:10:25 PhilA has joined #dwbp 13:10:25 adler1: I agree. Let's leave the aproval of the minutes for the next week. 13:10:26 +1 13:10:27 +1 13:10:30 +1 13:10:38 Zakim, who is talking? 13:10:40 zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio 13:10:42 BernadetteLoscio should now be muted 13:10:49 JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (4%), Ig_Bittencourt (4%), adler1 (85%), BernadetteLoscio (13%) 13:10:50 +1 13:11:00 APPROVED: postpone F2F meeting minutes approval to next week 13:11:22 +1 for not being there ;) 13:11:23 Topic: Feedback from the group - What went well? What didn't go well? 13:11:26 q+ 13:11:34 q+ 13:11:38 q+ 13:11:38 adler1: who would like to provide some feedback about the F2F meeting. 13:11:45 vagner has joined #dwbp 13:11:48 ack JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:12:03 JoaoPauloAlmeida: in the next call, we should not try to participate remotely 13:12:14 ... i thing the remote participation disturbes a lot. 13:12:32 ... I will try to participate in the next not remotely. 13:12:48 adler1: some times we just missed that you were in the room. 13:13:01 JoaoPauloAlmeida: I was very hard to hear. 13:13:19 ... it was very strange, because the sound was really bad. 13:13:20 +MakxDekkers 13:13:46 the laptop mic is also very bad (it is only sensitive to those in front of the laptop) 13:13:50 markharrison: I think in the next meeting we could use separate rooms whe we split the goups. 13:13:57 s/goups/groups 13:14:09 Ideally, the rooms should have some professional teleconference infrastructure 13:14:09 ... so that we don't have the background noisy. 13:14:14 (camera/mic) 13:14:33 q? 13:14:39 ack markharrison 13:14:42 ack ericstephan 13:14:58 adler1: what about the overall meeting itself. 13:15:04 Sorry my mic isnt working :-( 13:15:19 ... how those in the meeting room felt about the overall quality of the work products. 13:15:35 q+ 13:15:35 q+ 13:16:11 ack Ig_Bittencourt 13:16:14 I was appreciative for the time people took to include the remote attendees. It was difficult to hear at times, but everyone took extra time to be inclusive. 13:16:33 q+ 13:16:33 ack laufer 13:16:35 Ig_Bittencourt: I really liked the overall quality of the meeting. 13:16:43 laufer: I agree with Ig_Bittencourt 13:16:48 +Caroline 13:17:05 scribe: PhilA 13:17:08 q? 13:17:15 laufer: I think meeting f2f makes it easier to know everyone 13:17:21 scribe: Ig_Bittencourt 13:17:29 :) 13:17:30 Overall I think the meeting was quite productive and we have a clearer idea of where the group is heading 13:17:38 ack deirdrelee 13:17:56 Thank you for providing Google Chat 13:18:04 deirdrelee: in the second day I though maybe people produced more.. 13:18:48 I've not been to a W3C WG f2f that included break outs - it worked well I thought. And incidentally allowed better remote participation 13:19:00 PhilA, can you scribe. 13:19:05 I can not hear very well. 13:19:06 deirdrelee: small groups were good as they allowed people to get into deep discussions 13:19:19 Yes, small sub-group discussions were productive. Also everyone behaved nicely and I think we reached consensus on most issues - no major disagreements and certainly no hostility 13:19:29 adler1: I am impressed with the many agrees and comments. 13:19:38 ... does anyone has any other comment. 13:19:48 s/has/have 13:19:58 I don't have mic access, but I want to keep the momentum going from the day 2 break out groups. 13:20:17 deirdrelee: I agree that we accomplished a lot. 13:20:41 q? 13:20:55 yes... i agree that it was very productive 13:20:55 PhilA: I liked it went well. 13:20:57 q+ I need to ask by IRC 13:21:09 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:21:11 ... happy we had sufficient inputs to the use case doc. 13:21:19 ... it was a good meeting 13:21:28 ... this was one of the big ones 13:21:41 +[IPcaller] 13:21:53 +1 PhilA 13:21:56 Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:21:56 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 13:22:06 ... due to the size of the meeting, I was pleased to see how it worked. 13:22:53 ... when we come back together again, I am really impressed how the thought were similar 13:23:01 how will the results be compiled? 13:23:08 -BartvanLeeuwen 13:23:16 because the logs from IRC are too detailed 13:23:26 ... altough we were in different groups in the second day, the ideas were very connected. 13:23:45 +??P21 13:23:48 Zakim, ??P21 is me 13:23:48 +BartvanLeeuwen; got it 13:23:51 q? 13:24:03 q+ 13:24:09 My IRC queue QUESTION: Are more action items forthcoming from the breakout groups? What do we have left to do to tie up the lose ends? 13:24:17 I think so! 13:24:20 adler1: deirdrelee and BernadetteLoscio, do you feel we had enough content 13:24:39 deirdrelee: I think we definetely have enough content 13:24:42 me neither .... i arrived last night 13:25:13 yes... thanks 13:25:18 yes! 13:25:24 q? 13:25:26 Group works were very productive. I feel lack of action. A lot of good resolution, few actions 13:25:32 adler1: any other feedback 13:25:39 I have no mic 13:25:39 I have a comment I posted 13:25:39 ...? 13:25:39 ack ericstephan 13:25:44 q+ to say Group works were very productive. I feel lack of action. A lot of good resolution, few actions 13:26:07 Topic: Review the actions to be completed for this week 13:26:24 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open 13:26:32 -Ig_Bittencourt 13:26:35 We might need to review the notes again in the coming week... 13:26:55 +??P20 13:27:08 zakim, ??P20 is me 13:27:08 +Ig_Bittencourt; got it 13:27:40 action-20? 13:27:40 action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:27:40 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20 13:27:57 BernadetteLoscio I think we might have a few more... 13:28:09 1 min 13:28:23 zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio 13:28:23 BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted 13:28:38 BernadetteLoscio: to be honest, I arrived last night 13:28:46 ... so I could not work on this 13:29:03 I can help as well 13:29:03 It's not due until 8th April anyway 13:29:16 action-17? 13:29:16 action-17 -- Phil Archer to Contact leigh dodds wrt exchangeable licences etc. -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:29:16 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/17 13:29:34 PhilA: I wrote to leigh to get some feedback. 13:29:54 ... he think actually dcat has probably we need. 13:30:42 ... when I have something more to tell 13:30:46 close action-17 13:30:46 Closed action-17. 13:30:50 .. I 'll report. 13:30:52 ack laufer 13:31:06 action-16? 13:31:06 action-16 -- Carlos Laufer to Distil uri vs api discussion into general challenges as far as possible -- due 2014-04-04 -- OPEN 13:31:06 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/16 13:31:10 action-16? 13:31:10 action-16 -- Carlos Laufer to Distil uri vs api discussion into general challenges as far as possible -- due 2014-04-04 -- OPEN 13:31:10 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/16 13:31:22 laufer: I had one first version 13:31:30 s/had/did 13:31:43 .. the arguments for APIs and arguments for URIs 13:31:46 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/URIs_versus_APIs 13:32:04 ... I think now we have a good summary 13:32:09 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Mar/0233.html Laufer's work 13:32:11 close action-17 13:32:11 Closed action-17. 13:32:41 action-10? 13:32:41 action-10 -- Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez to Will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN 13:32:41 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/10 13:32:56 action-13? 13:32:56 action-13 -- Yaso Córdova to Add notes on the http://retratodaviolencia.org/ case into the use cases wiki -- due 2014-03-21 -- OPEN 13:32:56 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/13 13:33:06 action-15 13:33:06 action-15 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to And deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction -- due 2014-03-28 -- OPEN 13:33:06 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/15 13:33:33 BernadetteLoscio: we can close action 15 13:33:41 ... it was did during the f2f 13:33:47 close-action 15 13:33:47 +1 13:34:10 close action-16 13:34:10 Closed action-16. 13:34:31 +q 13:34:34 action-19? 13:34:34 action-19 -- Phil Archer to Create mailing list for vocabulary work -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:34:34 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/19 13:34:44 I sent mail to the list earlier http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Apr/0005.html 13:34:55 close action-15 13:34:55 Closed action-15. 13:35:06 It seems that what we're typing here in Zakim does not automatically update details in https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open That's a pity 13:35:25 PhilA: my action was separate mailing list for working in the vocabs 13:36:05 close action-19 13:36:05 Closed action-19. 13:36:07 ... if you want to talk about a specific vocab, then you have to assign in the mailing list 13:36:09 action-20? 13:36:09 action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:36:09 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20 13:36:17 close action-19 13:36:17 Closed action-19. 13:36:35 BernadetteLoscio: I think we need more. 13:36:48 Let me know how I can help BernadetteLoscio 13:36:50 ... more time 13:36:57 action-21? 13:36:57 action-21 -- Deirdre Lee to Create first draft of ucr in respec -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:36:57 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/21 13:36:58 thanks Eric! 13:37:19 action-24? 13:37:19 action-24 -- Phil Archer to Draft uml diagram for vocab(s) -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN 13:37:19 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/24 13:37:20 deirdrelee: I reallly did not have the chance to look. 13:37:27 we're gonna work on this next week ;) 13:37:31 s/reallly/really 13:37:45 q? 13:37:50 ack vagner 13:37:50 vagner, you wanted to say Group works were very productive. I feel lack of action. A lot of good resolution, few actions 13:38:06 vagner: I just would like to talk about the f2f meeting 13:38:27 ... I would like to congratulate BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee 13:38:36 ... they did a very good work by preparing the material 13:39:04 ... before the meeting it was not clear to me what we should do in that doc, and during the meeting it was very clear. 13:39:11 thanks Vagner! 13:39:12 ack me 13:39:18 ... so BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee were very helpful. 13:39:40 ... during the participation in the BP group, we had lot of resolutions 13:39:52 ... and I just to register we had few actions 13:40:09 ... and perhaps we could good faster to the BP doc. 13:40:10 q? 13:40:37 Topic: Review of the actions for next week. (Some of these came from the Face-to-face) 13:40:50 I think we might be done. 13:41:03 PhilA: I think is really useful to get the feedback 13:41:15 q+ 13:41:29 ... I hope to come back to some actions in the next meeting. 13:41:32 thanks to all! 13:41:33 ack deirdrelee 13:41:59 http://www.opengovpartnership.org/sites/default/files/attachments/ODWG%20Draft%20Workplan.pdf 13:43:24 zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio 13:43:24 BernadetteLoscio should now be muted 13:43:35 q? 13:43:37 deirdrelee: Talking about Fridays at the ODI talk today which was about anonymisation which was very interesting today. They generally post recordings and slides 13:43:37 thanks Deirdre! 13:43:39 Thank you yes I'd be interested deirdrelee 13:43:50 thanks PhilA. 13:43:55 http://theodi.org/lunchtime-lectures 13:43:57 odi lecture; http://theodi.org/lunchtime-lectures/friday-lunchtime-lecture-why-anonymity-fails 13:44:02 thank you!!! 13:44:04 ok! 13:44:05 thx and have good weekend ! bye 13:44:06 bye 13:44:06 bye bye 13:44:07 thanks,bye 13:44:08 -MakxDekkers 13:44:10 -Ig_Bittencourt 13:44:12 -adler1 13:44:12 bye 13:44:13 thanks adler1 13:44:13 thanks!!! 13:44:13 -cgueret 13:44:14 ciao 13:44:15 -PhilA 13:44:17 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 13:44:17 -Eric_Kauz 13:44:17 they usually put up slides/recording after 13:44:18 -markharrison 13:44:18 -laufer 13:44:19 bye 13:44:20 nice weekend! 13:44:23 -deirdrelee 13:44:25 -BartvanLeeuwen 13:44:27 -laufer 13:44:31 -BernadetteLoscio 13:44:32 have a relaxing weekend everyone! 13:44:34 -ericstephan 13:44:38 thanks ;) 13:44:38 zakim, bye 13:44:38 leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.609.557.aaaa, PhilA, Eric_Kauz, Ig_Bittencourt, BartvanLeeuwen, cgueret, JoaoPauloAlmeida, ericstephan, +1.516.944.aabb, adler1, 13:44:38 Zakim has left #dwbp 13:44:42