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12:01:41 <fsasaki> meeting: ITS IG
12:01:43 <fsasaki> chair: felix
12:01:48 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Apr/0000.html
12:02:07 <fsasaki> present: yves, David, felix
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12:02:45 <Yves_> present+ Yves
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12:04:56 <fsasaki> present+ pablo
12:04:58 <fsasaki> present+ ankit
12:05:04 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Apr/0000.html
12:05:13 <Ankit> present+ Ankit (irc only)
12:05:17 <fsasaki> topic: FEISGILTT
12:05:54 <fsasaki> david giving an update
12:06:02 <dF> http://www.localizationworld.com/lwdub2014/feisgiltt/
12:06:05 <fsasaki> david: registration will open this week
12:06:16 <fsasaki> .. cfp is closed by now
12:06:33 <fsasaki> .. registration will open 4 April
12:06:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
12:07:16 <fsasaki> .. topics: two thematic tracks
12:07:26 <fsasaki> .. one is "XLIFF symposium", 5th symposium
12:07:58 <fsasaki> .. other track is "content analytics meets localization", chaired by dave + felix
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12:08:49 <fsasaki> david: one day will have 4 separate session. One will be run by LIDER
12:08:54 <fsasaki> .. felix can say more about the topics
12:09:10 <fsasaki> .. after lunch will be run as XLIFF TC info sessions
12:09:16 <fsasaki> .. xliff 2.0, 2.x requirements etc.
12:09:34 <fsasaki> .. xliff 2.1 is shaping
12:09:49 <fsasaki> .. consensus coming on what is in 2.1 - two major features:
12:10:00 <fsasaki> .. ITS mapping will be an official module
12:10:10 <fsasaki> .. other feature will be advanced validation support
12:10:23 <fsasaki> .. xliff has many constraints that will be beyond xsd validation
12:10:36 <fsasaki> .. so there is a need to work on that, felix will do that
12:11:20 <fsasaki> .. xliff 2.1 will also merge with media type registration template
12:11:27 <fsasaki> .. 2.x requirements gathering also a topic
12:11:53 <fsasaki> .. felix + dave thought it would be good to have external participants
12:12:20 <fsasaki> .. to discuss also how to work with quality related requirements
12:12:32 <fsasaki> .. another topic would be general requirements gathering
12:12:41 <fsasaki> .. and general roadmapping
12:13:24 <fsasaki> present+ leroy
12:14:36 <fsasaki> christian: general question about xliff
12:14:42 <fsasaki> .. I saw the call for comments
12:14:53 <fsasaki> .. saw one call for dissent
12:14:59 <fsasaki> .. what is the general timing for xliff 2.0?
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12:16:12 <fsasaki> david: it is an official committee spec
12:16:25 <dF> SOU
12:16:29 <fsasaki> .. this week we will launch a questionnaire for getting statement of use
12:17:15 <fsasaki> .. you can see these on the public TC archive
12:18:15 <fsasaki> christian: will statement of use contain questions about compliance?
12:18:34 <fsasaki> david: the questionnaire is pretty detailed
12:18:48 <fsasaki> .. check boxes for every attribte + element in the spec
12:18:59 <fsasaki> .. it is very qualified
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12:19:29 <Yves_> survey is here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XLIFF2SOU (will be modified later today)
12:19:54 <fsasaki> s/topic: FEISGILTT/topic: FEISGILTT and xliff/
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12:21:10 <fsasaki> leroy: I have an xliff 2.0 compliant application
12:21:43 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/LD4LT_Group_Kick-Off_and_Roadmap_Meeting
12:22:38 <fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/XML_Prague_2014_report
12:22:58 <fsasaki> topic: MT Confidence mapping to XLIFF, see this thread
12:23:05 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Mar/0016.html
12:23:18 <Yves_> not much to add to my email
12:23:26 <Yves_> if people could review
12:23:32 <Yves_> the TO REVIEW entries
12:23:36 <Yves_> that would be good
12:23:57 <Yves_> yes
12:24:34 <Yves_> https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_2.0_Mapping
12:25:01 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Mar/0021.html
12:25:18 <fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_2.0_Mapping#MT_Confidence_.28.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D.3D.3DUNDER_CONSTRUCTION_-YS-.29
12:26:15 <Yves_> so what direction should we take for mtConfidence?
12:27:19 <fsasaki> felix: its:mtConfidencePointer
12:29:02 <fsasaki> question from Yves: "are we going to have many ITS-only processor looking at XLIFF2 files"
12:29:23 <fsasaki> david: think it was good that all mappings were generic for ITS processors
12:29:39 <fsasaki> .. not sure if there will be many generic processors look at ITS 2.0
12:31:17 <fsasaki> felix: so you think the private mapping is no an issue?
12:31:24 <fsasaki> david: no problem for XLIFF TC
12:32:32 <fsasaki> .. general ITS processors is a separate topic
12:33:44 <Yves_> ok
12:33:51 <fsasaki> felix: just need to separate ITS - XLIFF namespace from general ITS experimental extensions
12:34:15 <Yves_> We can just state that the ITS to XLIFF is not available for MT Confidence
12:34:48 <fsasaki> christian: question related to mt confidence
12:35:05 <Yves_> it should work with quest
12:35:05 <fsasaki> .. how far would be able to cover information generated by quest?
12:35:16 <Yves_> that's my use case :)
12:35:56 <Yves_> no for MT confidence we can use the XLIFF attribute directly
12:36:01 <fsasaki> ok
12:36:35 <Yves_> yes
12:36:58 <Yves_> I think it'll work the same
12:37:10 <fsasaki> felix: any impact on e.g. ocelot who visualizes mt:confidence in xliff 1.2 ?
12:37:11 <Yves_> they would just get the info from matchQuality
12:37:15 <fsasaki> yves' answer above
12:37:43 <Yves_> or mtConfidence if the annotation is directly in the unit (rather than the match)
12:37:51 <fsasaki> felix: tool becomes an "ITS + XLIFF" tool?
12:38:12 <Yves_> I guess
12:38:46 <fsasaki> action: felix to talk to phil about mt confidence, xliff2 and ocelot
12:38:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Talk to phil about mt confidence, xliff2 and ocelot [on Felix Sasaki - due 2014-04-09].
12:39:26 <fsasaki> topic: schema topic
12:39:39 <fsasaki> david: schema for xliff 2.1
12:39:46 <fsasaki> s/xliff/its/
12:40:05 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Mar/0015.html
12:40:45 <fsasaki> felix: schema is not normative part of ITS
12:41:38 <fsasaki> david: no further comments
12:41:40 <fsasaki> topic: Issues and proposed features
12:41:54 <fsasaki> pablo: no time to move forward on readiness
12:42:09 <fsasaki> .. pending issues are the same - need to review semantic process list
12:42:23 <fsasaki> .. no further update
12:42:38 <fsasaki> felix: do you need input from people in the group?
12:42:55 <fsasaki> pablo: people to check the text, help with the process list, help to review
12:43:18 <fsasaki> felix: any volunteer? please consider helping out
12:44:05 <fsasaki> topic: other usual work items
12:44:59 <fsasaki> felix encouraging people to contribute as their time permits
12:45:06 <pnietoca> I anybody is interested you can email me and then we could talk about how to distribute the tasks
12:45:27 <pnietoca> I'll try to move forward but this month I was very busy
12:46:01 <Yves_> I'll try to look at it Pablo, but like you I'm a bit busy.
12:46:20 <fsasaki> topic: ITS application
12:46:20 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Apr/0002.html
12:46:52 <fsasaki> its-ta-ident-ref
12:47:20 <fsasaki> http://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/demo/football/
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12:48:59 <pnietoca> thanks Yves much appreciated :)
12:50:46 <fsasaki> multilingual article http://www.multilingual.com/articles/201403-44/
12:51:18 <fsasaki> christian: good point in time to thank people on the phone
12:51:29 <fsasaki> .. what we did was: including information that people provided to us
12:51:42 <fsasaki> .. e.g. the percentage of improvement came from Pedro
12:52:32 <fsasaki> +1
12:52:45 <fsasaki> topic: aob
12:53:08 <fsasaki> leroy: we will document ITS ontology for falcon
12:53:43 <fsasaki> .. the linport vocabulary - for workflow with translation documents. We translated that vocabulary into linked data
12:53:55 <fsasaki> felix: where will that be made avail?
12:54:06 <fsasaki> leroy: should be up in falcon site soon
12:54:11 <fsasaki> .. in deliverable section
12:54:34 <leroy> http://falcon-project.eu/deliverables
12:55:16 <leroy> more information on falon http://falcon-project.eu/sample-page
12:55:37 <fsasaki> adjourned
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