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15:03:47 <koalie> -> http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-webizen-minutes.html Previous (2014-03-20)
15:03:57 <koalie> meeting: Webizen task force meeting
15:04:01 <koalie> chair: Jeff
15:07:51 <Zakim> +Jeff
15:08:30 <koalie> Topic: Action items
15:08:35 <koalie> scribenick: koalie
15:09:36 <Zakim> +Jean-Charles
15:09:43 <koalie> [JC arrives]
15:10:21 <koalie> Jeff: Having a new kind of AC reps might be disruptive from the systeam's point of view
15:10:26 <koalie> ... I asked Ted and he concurred
15:10:40 <koalie> ... I said OK, can you assign someone to estimate the cost
15:10:51 <bkardell_> bkardell_ has joined #webizen
15:11:00 <koalie> ... Ted wants to assign someone when this TF has more than a proposal
15:11:14 <koalie> ... But we might go out with a proposal not knowing how much it's going to cost
15:11:18 <koalie> ... That's a risk.
15:11:28 <koalie> Jeff: " Jeff to write a proposal to write up what an electoral college would look like. "
15:11:36 <koalie> ... action completed
15:11:38 <koalie> ... cf. wiki
15:11:51 <jeff> q+
15:12:15 <koalie> ack jeff
15:12:40 <koalie> Jeff: I'm going to reassign myself an action to elaborate on how elections should be done.
15:13:03 <koalie> ACTION: Jeff to elaborate on how elections should be done (college)
15:13:36 <koalie> Jeff: I did socialise this proposal briefly with W3M
15:13:55 <koalie> ... There is momentum for this proposal
15:14:05 <koalie> Veronica: " Veronica to figure what sort of discounts level to devcampus, VS etc. are high-enough to attract people, but not high-enough that they give the services away. "
15:14:13 <koalie> ... I sent my proposal to Jeff and Coralie in e-mail
15:14:30 <koalie> ... We have WebDevCampus, W3Conf, Validator Suite
15:14:35 <koalie> ... Today we have early bird rates
15:14:45 <koalie> ... for training courses and early bird W3Conf registration
15:14:53 <koalie> ... between 10 to 20%
15:15:15 <koalie> ... Recently, at MWC, we issues 200 free credits (20% of tiny package) for W3C Validator Suite
15:15:46 <koalie> ... proposal for a 20% discount that would be available anytime for Training
15:15:59 <bkardell_> Maybe if w3c had any partners doing training you could negotiate similar discount
15:16:02 <koalie> ... Also 20% for Validator Suite, with cap of medium package
15:16:32 <koalie> ... Registration fees: would be open with a 20% discount, at any point in time
15:16:52 <koalie> ... I talked to Doug (W3Conf orgniser) and he OK'ed this
15:17:00 <jeff> q+
15:17:03 <koalie> ... Alan thought the Training and VS discounts were reasonable.
15:17:05 <koalie> ack jeff
15:17:12 <koalie> Jeff: That all sounds very reasonable to me
15:17:27 <koalie> ... Should others weigh in? Marie-Claire, Jérôme
15:17:34 <koalie> ... once everyone agree, this should go in the wiki
15:17:38 <koalie> veronica: Yes
15:17:49 <koalie> ... I couldn't find Marie-Claire when I looked
15:17:59 <koalie> ... I'll get that feed back and update wiki
15:18:37 <koalie> ACTION: Veronica to socialise her proposal further and update wiki (discounts)
15:18:49 <koalie> Coralie: "Coralie to come up with comm plan for low-key start of webizen program. "
15:19:29 <koalie> ... added to plan: a banner or square at top of selected w3.org pages, pointing to Webizen landing page
15:20:19 <koalie> ... ribbons or badges
15:21:12 <koalie> ... twibbon, open badges
15:21:21 <koalie> ... looking at what would best match Webizen
15:21:48 <koalie> Jeff: I guess the comm plan, in my mind, I wouldn't call ribbons as a comm plan, but a benefit
15:22:18 <koalie> ... At this point in time we need to progress on benefits
15:22:32 <koalie> ... and be able to list the costs
15:22:42 <koalie> ... It's only March, we have time
15:23:42 <koalie> ... I'm thinking that next time we get together, rather than schedule weekly, I'd rather we get together when we have some ability to review and finalise items, such as list of benefit or comm plan
15:24:15 <koalie> Jeff: The wiki looks close to a complete proposal
15:24:29 <koalie> q+
15:25:41 <koalie> koalie: What about a survey of benefits to the public
15:25:43 <veronica> ack nex
15:25:50 <veronica> ack k
15:25:53 <koalie> ... it would link to the benefits and look for +1 or -1
15:26:12 <koalie> ... we would add a comments field; no guarantee they will make it to the cut
15:27:14 <bkardell_> koalie - what would such a survey look like?
15:27:43 <koalie> Jeff: Maybe survey is not the right way to do it
15:28:11 <koalie> ... How about a new blog post pointing to the benefits package proposal and seek feedback and comments
15:28:16 <koalie> Coralie: OK
15:29:48 <bkardell_> Will this post contain stuff about the electoral college proposal?
15:30:13 <koalie> bkardell_, the electoral college is part of the benefits package
15:30:28 <bkardell_> very good.
15:30:56 <bkardell_> As someone who was in this spot a year or so ago (not a w3c member) it is honestly the most compelling thing to me
15:31:00 <Zakim> -Jean-Charles
15:31:02 <bkardell_> I have plenty of tshirts
15:31:06 <koalie> [JC departs]
15:31:28 <bkardell_> :)
15:32:53 <koalie> q?
15:32:56 <jeff> Coralie: Is this to get money or get people involved in W3C, and will it work?
15:33:00 <jeff> Jeff: I don't know
15:33:09 <jeff> ... I hear people want to Affiliate with W3C in some way.
15:33:18 <jeff> ... If we overthink it, we will get it wrong.
15:33:31 <jeff> ... So with Webizen we are putting something out there; see if it works
15:33:34 <bkardell_> IT seems an important question is *why* do you want to
15:33:37 <jeff> ... evolve organically over time.
15:33:37 <koalie> I|Coralie: Is this|scribenick: Jeff|
15:33:42 <koalie> i|Coralie: Is this|scribenick: Jeff|
15:34:05 <bkardell_> is it for business reasons, I've heard that - it makes you look professional.
15:34:12 <jeff> bkardell: The "why" is because we are hearing a community that wants to affiliate better with us.
15:34:15 <bkardell_> or is it because you want to participate and make a difference
15:34:45 <jeff> I would not say that business is the primary driver - it came up from participants at TPAC last year.
15:34:58 <jeff> Grass roots request.. not top down strategic plan
15:35:07 <jeff> whoops
15:35:33 <jeff> Ok.  misread what I wrote.  I wrote it right the first time.
15:36:03 <koalie> scribenick: koalie
15:36:18 <jeff> q?
15:36:22 <koalie> jeff: Please, at next wiki clean up, take into account the sentiment from this log
15:36:22 <jeff> AOB?
15:36:47 <koalie> Topic: Next meeting
15:37:00 <koalie> Jeff: It doesn't have to be a weekly meeting
15:37:11 <koalie> ... let's schedule next
15:37:49 <koalie> ... I have have a pass done in a week or so about voting action
15:37:54 <koalie> ... the comm part is more complicated
15:38:20 <koalie> Coralie: Meet 10-Apr?
15:38:24 <koalie> Jeff: Yes
15:38:26 <koalie> Veronica: Yes
15:38:39 <jeff> [adjourned]
15:38:47 <Zakim> -Veronica
15:38:48 <Zakim> -Jeff
15:38:50 <Zakim> -koalie
15:38:52 <Zakim> Team_JEFF(WEBIZ)11:00AM has ended
15:38:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Veronica, koalie, Jeff, Jean-Charles
15:38:56 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
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15:40:29 <koalie> i|Coralie: Is this to|scribenick: jeff|
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15:42:00 <koalie> RRSAgent, bye
15:42:00 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-webizen-actions.rdf :
15:42:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeff to elaborate on how elections should be done (college) [1]
15:42:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-webizen-irc#T15-13-03
15:42:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Veronica to socialise her proposal further and update wiki (discounts) [2]
15:42:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-webizen-irc#T15-18-37