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15:22:53 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
15:22:53 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 38 minutes
15:23:05 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
15:23:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:23:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:23:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 37 minutes
15:23:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
15:23:10 <trackbot> Date: 20 March 2014
15:23:31 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Mar/0014.html
15:23:34 <aphillip> Regrets: Jan
15:23:53 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR
15:24:00 <aphillip> agenda+ What time is this meeting at?
15:24:12 <aphillip> agenda+ Quotation Marks in Multilingual Text
15:24:22 <aphillip> agenda+ Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs, Deterministic Encoding, and other URL issues
15:24:33 <aphillip> agenda+ HTML Issues 342, 343
15:24:38 <aphillip> agenda+ TPAC plans
15:24:47 <aphillip> agenda?
15:24:56 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:25:45 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:25:49 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:25:53 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
15:26:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:33:38 <r12a> hi addision
15:33:51 <r12a> meeting starts at 16:00 UTC right?
15:33:57 <r12a> oh, yes
15:34:01 <r12a> sorry coming
15:34:09 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:34:09 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:34:32 <r12a> hmm, no ringing
15:34:46 <r12a> zakim, this will be i18n
15:34:46 <Zakim> ok, r12a; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 26 minutes
15:34:53 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:34:53 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:35:06 <r12a> how about skype?
15:48:52 <aphillip> agenda?
15:48:56 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:48:56 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM has not yet started, aphillip
15:48:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, trackbot
16:01:13 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM has now started
16:01:20 <Zakim> +aphillip
16:02:58 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:02:58 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:03:00 <Zakim> +Richard
16:05:10 <aphillip> agenda?
16:05:17 <matial> matial has joined #i18n
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16:06:39 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda?
16:06:41 <aphillip> agenda?
16:07:31 <Zakim> +??P12
16:07:31 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:07:54 <matial> zakim, ??p12 is me
16:07:54 <Zakim> +matial; got it
16:08:13 <Zakim> +koji
16:09:24 <aphillip> koji: group in japan is working on the ruby spec
16:09:29 <aphillip> ... getting feedback
16:09:53 <aphillip> ... could someone look at?
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16:11:38 <Zakim> +JcK
16:12:43 <aphillip> agenda?
16:12:52 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:12:52 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]
16:13:14 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar#Scheduled_Last_Call_reviews
16:13:34 <aphillip> agenda?
16:13:45 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 6
16:13:45 <Zakim> agendum 6. "TPAC plans" taken up [from aphillip]
16:14:22 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Mar/0008.html
16:15:17 <aphillip> action: addison: send a note on member about TPAC attendance
16:15:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-299 - Send a note on member about tpac attendance [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-03-27].
16:15:58 <aphillip> action: addison: respond to TPAC survey to reserve us a room
16:15:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-300 - Respond to tpac survey to reserve us a room [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-03-27].
16:16:20 <aphillip> agenda?
16:16:33 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:16:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "What time is this meeting at?" taken up [from aphillip]
16:16:43 <aphillip> http://doodle.com/9nnds2bywyrgfpy8
16:22:58 <aphillip> action-296: change the time to 1400Z
16:22:58 <trackbot> Notes added to action-296 Navigate dst/summer time transition to keep call's time intact after dst change.
16:24:04 <aphillip> agenda?
16:24:43 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:24:43 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs, Deterministic Encoding, and other URL issues" taken up [from aphillip]
16:25:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:25:19 <aphillip> richard: the URL spec seems to be of "looming importance"
16:25:48 <aphillip> JcK: universal acceptance not a part of that
16:26:26 <aphillip> ... this started off to cover issues found by ICANN for IDNA TLDs
16:26:39 <aphillip> ... some did not work well
16:26:55 <aphillip> ... partially to do with input and exchange issues
16:27:04 <aphillip> ... but also because some were confusable
16:27:28 <aphillip> ... browsers adopted "confusion reduction" things
16:27:33 <aphillip> ... each browser was different
16:28:10 <aphillip> ... in some cases showing encoded form
16:28:16 <aphillip> ... or blocked, etc.
16:28:34 <aphillip> ... this made the domains "not work"
16:28:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:30:50 <aphillip> richard: my understand was that this was about fact that IDNA doesn't work for stuff like email or certain forms
16:31:07 <aphillip> ... so not as useful to have an IDN address
16:33:01 <aphillip> ... came up in MLWW
16:33:14 <aphillip> ... expressing in terms of needing to get email and other things to support
16:33:30 <aphillip> ... small breakout
16:33:46 <aphillip> ... Don Hollander asked to spead at next MLWW in Madrid
16:33:57 <aphillip> ... and others interested will be there
16:35:05 <aphillip> richard: may not have direct role in solving, but we should probably facilitate them working on it?
16:35:53 <aphillip> JcK: may just require patience
16:36:36 <aphillip> addison: keep eye on and encourge interested parties to "chat amoungst themselves"
16:37:19 <aphillip> addison: deterministic encoding?
16:37:46 <aphillip> Martin chimed in: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Mar/0015.html
16:38:27 <aphillip> richard: always been a bit of an issue with sending data in a URL
16:38:35 <aphillip> ... such as "get"
16:38:45 <aphillip> ... can't tell what the character encoding of the bytes in the URL is
16:39:00 <aphillip> ... Microsoft proposes adding an extra HTTP header field to indicate the encoding
16:39:31 <aphillip> addison: up to the query part
16:39:49 <aphillip> ... it's UTF-8
16:40:04 <aphillip> JcK: URLs encoded in one encoding and then embedded into text in another encoding
16:40:18 <aphillip> matial: something else to MSFT's proposal
16:40:28 <aphillip> .. anxious to keep compatible with existing stuff
16:40:51 <aphillip> ... when you don't have new headers the servers keep existing behavior
16:41:10 <aphillip> ... but if we standardize on UTF-8 can't be both
16:41:50 <aphillip> ... if queries are UTF-8 in future, that breaks existing servers
16:51:40 <aphillip> h4p://tools.ie:.org/id/dra<-­‐montenegro-­‐h4pbis-­‐uri-­‐encoding/
16:51:59 <aphillip> add to review radar
16:52:29 <aphillip> addison: seek community comment but only after we review
16:52:39 <r12a> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft%E2%80%90montenegro-httpbis-uri-encoding/
16:52:59 <r12a> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-montenegro-httpbis-uri-encoding/
16:53:04 <aphillip> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-montenegro-httpbis-uri-encoding-00.txt
16:55:43 <aphillip> richard: should track url spec and participate as needed
16:57:02 <aphillip> addison: add URL spec to review
16:57:25 <aphillip> agenda?
16:57:46 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:57:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:58:06 <aphillip> richard: published the article on encoding
16:58:17 <aphillip> ... hope to publish the other two on Monday
16:58:22 <aphillip> ... last chance to comment
16:58:26 <aphillip> ... please to hurry
16:58:51 <Zakim> -JcK
16:58:52 <Zakim> -aphillip
16:58:52 <Zakim> -koji
16:58:55 <Zakim> -matial
16:59:00 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
16:59:01 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
16:59:01 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:59:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:59:02 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:00PM has ended
16:59:02 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, Richard, matial, koji, JcK
16:59:50 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Mati, Koji, JcK
17:01:01 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:01:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-i18n-minutes.html aphillip