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15:53:48 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:53:48 <trackbot> Date: 20 March 2014
15:55:53 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0026.html
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16:00:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:01:03 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:01:03 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
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16:01:35 <Zakim> +Sam
16:01:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:01:58 <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft has me
16:01:58 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
16:02:36 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:02:39 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.a has me
16:02:39 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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16:03:22 <paulc> plh: are you scribing today?
16:03:41 <Zakim> +Plh
16:03:56 <plh> scribe: plh
16:04:21 <Zakim> +Daniel_Austin
16:04:40 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
16:04:44 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
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16:06:01 <plh> Topic: Action items
16:06:06 <plh> Paul: none
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16:06:12 <plh> Topic: HTML 5.0 issues
16:06:43 <plh> Paul: only one is issue 151, about WHATWG references in the status section of the document
16:06:47 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
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16:06:58 <plh> ... Sam sent a note about that earlier and we're working with the editors
16:07:08 <plh> ... we're trying to make sure we have everything covered
16:07:21 <plh> issue-151?
16:07:21 <trackbot> issue-151 -- Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document -- open
16:07:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151
16:07:28 <plh> Topic: Last Call Status
16:07:39 <plh> Paul: Polyglot
16:07:47 <plh> ... one large LC comment, worked on by the editor
16:08:26 <paulc> One section to revisit: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24451#c9
16:08:29 <plh> Elliott: there is one section that needs to be revisited. should be done in a couple of days
16:08:40 <plh> s/Elliott/Eliot/
16:09:04 <plh> POaul: once this gets closed off, the LC will be done and we'll need to figure how to get to CR
16:09:10 <plh> ... so, we'll need exit criteria
16:09:28 <plh> Eliot: Leif is making a draft for that
16:09:35 <plh> ... should have something in a couple of weeks
16:09:59 <plh> Topic: W3C DOM4
16:10:06 <plh> Paul: that's in last call
16:10:11 <plh> ... didn't hear back from Robin
16:11:00 <plh> plh: I don't have an update unfortunately
16:11:12 <plh> Paul: ok, we're still on schedule. there are issues in the spec btw
16:11:18 <plh> Topic: longdesc status
16:11:34 <plh> Paul: TF preference is to skip CR phase
16:11:51 <plh> ... Status: "The A11Y coordination team continues to make progress on the Exit Criteria. We are getting closer to reaching consensus.
16:11:51 <plh> Good news is the implementation report is getting developed in parallel."
16:12:17 <plh> Paul: the individuals are all at CSUN this week
16:12:24 <plh> Topic: CR progress
16:12:27 <Zakim> +cabanier
16:12:43 <plh> Paul: Moving canvas2d back to last call
16:13:13 <plh> ... it appears that the hit region algorithm is in the L2 spec, and they're trying to figure which subset needs to be in L1
16:13:44 <plh> Rik: it's becoming apparent that what people think is in the spec is not there
16:13:57 <plh> ... we're working on it
16:14:28 <plh> Paul: any discussion in the sub-team on if f2f discussion?
16:14:38 <plh> Rik: I won't be able to attend (conflict with SVG)
16:14:46 <plh> ... and Rich won't be able to either
16:14:54 <plh> Paul: ok, we'll figure the next steps
16:15:07 <plh> Topic: status of HTML 5.0
16:15:17 <plh> Paul: good news, we're done to 0 bugs
16:15:34 <plh> ... only remaining is the one about at risk features
16:16:06 <plh> ... see also https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c11
16:17:48 <plh> plh: this is a moving target discussion btw. firefox shipped this week without an HTML5 feature (input color). blink-dev is discussing whether to remove another one (style scoped)
16:17:57 <plh> Paul: big thanks to the HTML editors for their work!
16:19:23 <plh> https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References
16:19:39 <plh> plh: Robin has been cleaning some of the references earlier this week
16:19:48 <plh> ... this affects HTML5
16:20:22 <plh> Paul: 4 specs are still problematic
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16:21:05 <plh> Paul: re features at risk. the bug concentrates on the list from the status
16:21:32 <plh> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c10
16:21:39 <plh> ... any study on others?
16:21:45 <plh> plh: c10 is one of them
16:22:50 <plh> plh: we'll have hundreds of  test results in time for f2f
16:23:03 <plh> Topic: f2f meeting
16:23:35 <plh> Paul: end date for registration is March 28
16:23:50 <plh> ... long list of potential topics
16:23:59 <plh> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics
16:24:31 <plh> Paul: plh, you've been talking about testing results
16:24:40 <plh> ... Mike came with canvas results in the past
16:26:49 <plh> plh: i expect we'll generate test results in the week of April 1
16:27:01 <plh> Paul: ok, I added a forward pointer to that in the agenda
16:28:21 <plh> ... announcing the test results as early as possible will be useful
16:30:28 <plh> Paul: for media task force, we're aiming on the second day in the morning
16:31:37 <plh> ... we'll need a teleconference facility
16:31:50 <plh> Daniel: we'll have this
16:32:04 <plh> Topic: AOB
16:32:13 <plh> Paul: we covered testing results
16:32:52 <tobint> q+
16:33:06 <plh> plh: re MSE tests from Google. is there someone looking at them>
16:33:37 <plh> paul: it's been taken care of. won't have them stable by f2f
16:34:14 <adrianba> q?
16:34:22 <paulc> ack tobin
16:34:28 <tobint> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webperf/raw-file/tip/specs/ResourcePriorities/Overview.html
16:34:30 <plh> tobin: I'm from the web performance working group
16:34:34 <plh> ... following up on resource priorities
16:34:36 <tobint> http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html#item19
16:34:52 <plh> ... the work is continuing ion web performance
16:34:59 <tobint> http://www.w3.org/2014/03/19-webperf-minutes.html
16:35:02 <plh> ... some questions making sure we're still in sync with HTML 5.1
16:35:29 <plh> ... just want to make sure the html group is aware of it
16:35:35 <plh> paul: this is an extension spec
16:35:50 <plh> ... is this an item where you need hooks or future merge?
16:36:01 <plh> tobin: potentially, we might ask for a merge
16:36:33 <plh> paul: if your working group needs hooks, please feel free to ask
16:37:26 <plh> paul: thank you to the editors for getting us to 0 bug
16:37:34 <plh> Topic: next meeting
16:37:45 <plh> plh can scribe again
16:37:52 <plh> Sam will chair
16:38:00 <Zakim> -Sam
16:38:01 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:38:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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16:38:02 <Zakim> -adrianba
16:38:02 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:38:03 <Zakim> -Plh
16:38:08 <plh> [adjourned]
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16:38:28 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
16:38:41 <plh> zakim, list attendees
16:38:41 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been paulc, Sam, Eliot, [Microsoft], jaymunro, Plh, Daniel_Austin, adrianba, cabanier
16:38:44 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:38:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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16:38:55 <plh> zakim, drop paul
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16:38:56 <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, Sam, Eliot, [Microsoft], jaymunro, Plh, Daniel_Austin, adrianba, cabanier
16:39:05 <plh> zakim, bye
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