IRC log of html-wg on 2014-03-20

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be html_wg
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ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 20 March 2014
15:55:53 [paulc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0026.html
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HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
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+[Microsoft]
16:01:03 [paulc]
zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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+paulc; got it
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+Sam
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+[Microsoft]
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Zakim, Microsoft has me
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+Eliot; got it
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+[Microsoft.a]
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zakim, microsoft.a has me
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+jaymunro; got it
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16:03:22 [paulc]
plh: are you scribing today?
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+Plh
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scribe: plh
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+Daniel_Austin
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+[Microsoft.aa]
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zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
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+adrianba; got it
16:06:01 [plh]
Topic: Action items
16:06:06 [plh]
Paul: none
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Topic: HTML 5.0 issues
16:06:43 [plh]
Paul: only one is issue 151, about WHATWG references in the status section of the document
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+[Microsoft.aa]
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16:06:58 [plh]
... Sam sent a note about that earlier and we're working with the editors
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... we're trying to make sure we have everything covered
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issue-151?
16:07:21 [trackbot]
issue-151 -- Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document -- open
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151
16:07:28 [plh]
Topic: Last Call Status
16:07:39 [plh]
Paul: Polyglot
16:07:47 [plh]
... one large LC comment, worked on by the editor
16:08:26 [paulc]
One section to revisit: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24451#c9
16:08:29 [plh]
Elliott: there is one section that needs to be revisited. should be done in a couple of days
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s/Elliott/Eliot/
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POaul: once this gets closed off, the LC will be done and we'll need to figure how to get to CR
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... so, we'll need exit criteria
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Eliot: Leif is making a draft for that
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... should have something in a couple of weeks
16:09:59 [plh]
Topic: W3C DOM4
16:10:06 [plh]
Paul: that's in last call
16:10:11 [plh]
... didn't hear back from Robin
16:11:00 [plh]
plh: I don't have an update unfortunately
16:11:12 [plh]
Paul: ok, we're still on schedule. there are issues in the spec btw
16:11:18 [plh]
Topic: longdesc status
16:11:34 [plh]
Paul: TF preference is to skip CR phase
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... Status: "The A11Y coordination team continues to make progress on the Exit Criteria. We are getting closer to reaching consensus.
16:11:51 [plh]
Good news is the implementation report is getting developed in parallel."
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Paul: the individuals are all at CSUN this week
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Topic: CR progress
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+cabanier
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Paul: Moving canvas2d back to last call
16:13:13 [plh]
... it appears that the hit region algorithm is in the L2 spec, and they're trying to figure which subset needs to be in L1
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Rik: it's becoming apparent that what people think is in the spec is not there
16:13:57 [plh]
... we're working on it
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Paul: any discussion in the sub-team on if f2f discussion?
16:14:38 [plh]
Rik: I won't be able to attend (conflict with SVG)
16:14:46 [plh]
... and Rich won't be able to either
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Paul: ok, we'll figure the next steps
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Topic: status of HTML 5.0
16:15:17 [plh]
Paul: good news, we're done to 0 bugs
16:15:34 [plh]
... only remaining is the one about at risk features
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... see also https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c11
16:17:48 [plh]
plh: this is a moving target discussion btw. firefox shipped this week without an HTML5 feature (input color). blink-dev is discussing whether to remove another one (style scoped)
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Paul: big thanks to the HTML editors for their work!
16:19:23 [plh]
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References
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plh: Robin has been cleaning some of the references earlier this week
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... this affects HTML5
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Paul: 4 specs are still problematic
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Paul: re features at risk. the bug concentrates on the list from the status
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c10
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... any study on others?
16:21:45 [plh]
plh: c10 is one of them
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plh: we'll have hundreds of test results in time for f2f
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Topic: f2f meeting
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Paul: end date for registration is March 28
16:23:50 [plh]
... long list of potential topics
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https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics
16:24:31 [plh]
Paul: plh, you've been talking about testing results
16:24:40 [plh]
... Mike came with canvas results in the past
16:26:49 [plh]
plh: i expect we'll generate test results in the week of April 1
16:27:01 [plh]
Paul: ok, I added a forward pointer to that in the agenda
16:28:21 [plh]
... announcing the test results as early as possible will be useful
16:30:28 [plh]
Paul: for media task force, we're aiming on the second day in the morning
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... we'll need a teleconference facility
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Daniel: we'll have this
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Topic: AOB
16:32:13 [plh]
Paul: we covered testing results
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q+
16:33:06 [plh]
plh: re MSE tests from Google. is there someone looking at them>
16:33:37 [plh]
paul: it's been taken care of. won't have them stable by f2f
16:34:14 [adrianba]
q?
16:34:22 [paulc]
ack tobin
16:34:28 [tobint]
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webperf/raw-file/tip/specs/ResourcePriorities/Overview.html
16:34:30 [plh]
tobin: I'm from the web performance working group
16:34:34 [plh]
... following up on resource priorities
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http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html#item19
16:34:52 [plh]
... the work is continuing ion web performance
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http://www.w3.org/2014/03/19-webperf-minutes.html
16:35:02 [plh]
... some questions making sure we're still in sync with HTML 5.1
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... just want to make sure the html group is aware of it
16:35:35 [plh]
paul: this is an extension spec
16:35:50 [plh]
... is this an item where you need hooks or future merge?
16:36:01 [plh]
tobin: potentially, we might ask for a merge
16:36:33 [plh]
paul: if your working group needs hooks, please feel free to ask
16:37:26 [plh]
paul: thank you to the editors for getting us to 0 bug
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Topic: next meeting
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plh can scribe again
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Sam will chair
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-Sam
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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-Daniel_Austin
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-adrianba
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-[Microsoft]
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-Plh
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[adjourned]
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-[Microsoft.a]
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-[Microsoft.aa]
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zakim, list attendees
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As of this point the attendees have been paulc, Sam, Eliot, [Microsoft], jaymunro, Plh, Daniel_Austin, adrianba, cabanier
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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-cabanier
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zakim, drop paul
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paulc is being disconnected
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HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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Attendees were paulc, Sam, Eliot, [Microsoft], jaymunro, Plh, Daniel_Austin, adrianba, cabanier
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zakim, bye
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985801
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