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15:02:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 63342
15:02:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
15:02:52 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:02:52 <trackbot> Date: 18 March 2014
15:02:53 <markw> Zakim, who is on the phone ?
15:02:53 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, markw
15:02:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, plh, johnsim, ddorwin, markw, jdsmith, paulc, wseltzer, trackbot
15:03:16 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Mar/0032.html
15:03:26 <plh> zakim, this is html
15:03:26 <Zakim> ok, plh; that matches HTML_WG()11:00AM
15:03:27 <paulc> zakim, who is making noise?
15:03:43 <Zakim> paulc, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: MarkW (83%)
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15:04:49 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:04:49 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:04:52 <markw> Zakim, MarkW is me
15:04:52 <Zakim> +markw; got it
15:05:16 <Zakim> +davide
15:05:26 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is jdsmith
15:05:26 <Zakim> +jdsmith; got it
15:05:32 <ddorwin> zakim, aaaa is me
15:05:32 <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
15:05:39 <johnsim> zakim, [microsoft] is me
15:05:39 <Zakim> sorry, johnsim, I do not recognize a party named '[microsoft]'
15:05:40 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is johnsim
15:05:40 <Zakim> +johnsim; got it
15:06:15 <johnsim> scribenick johnsim
15:06:54 <plh> scribeNick: johnsim
15:07:07 <johnsim> Topic: rollcall
15:07:15 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:07:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, jdsmith, markw, ddorwin, johnsim, Plh, davide
15:07:35 <johnsim> Topic: Action Items
15:07:42 <paulc> ACTION-61?
15:07:42 <trackbot> ACTION-61 -- Paul Cotton to Work with wendy to make sure we get a security review of eme -- due 2013-12-10 -- OPEN
15:07:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/61
15:08:24 <johnsim> paulc: no progress due to lack of resources
15:08:30 <paulc> ACTION-62?
15:08:30 <trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Paul Cotton to Report back about the plan for 20944 due 2013-12-15 -- due 2013-12-10 -- OPEN
15:08:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/62
15:08:53 <johnsim> This action is pending
15:09:08 <johnsim> Topic: Agenda Item #5 - new EME bugs since the last meeting
15:09:42 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24951
15:10:07 <paulc> Status: Blocks  17673 24673 24873
15:11:18 <johnsim> ddorwin: fell under the discussion with David Singer.
15:12:06 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673
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15:12:22 <johnsim> paulc: 17673 implementation is necessary - and last meeting Adrian agreed to implement 17673
15:13:08 <johnsim> ddorwin: need to fix the new bug 24951 first
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15:13:59 <johnsim> David and Adrian need to figure out who is actually going to do the work on 24951
15:14:23 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:14:26 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:14:26 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
15:15:26 <johnsim> <crickets>
15:16:31 <johnsim> adrianba: 24951 is describing the solution that Adrian is planning for 17673.
15:16:48 <johnsim> Assign 24951 to Adrianba
15:17:05 <johnsim> paulc: deals with agenda item 5a
15:17:27 <johnsim> Subtopic: persistent license
15:17:52 <johnsim> paulc: don't know if there is a bug for this but since there is active discussion...
15:18:09 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Mar/0020.html
15:18:23 <ddorwin> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24025
15:18:25 <johnsim> ddorwin: came out of a bug, two issues - load session with createsession and proposed persistent attribute is poorly defined
15:18:54 <johnsim> ddorwin: i have an action to break this bug into separate bugs with a better proposal for the persistent attribute, outlined in the email
15:19:08 <ddorwin> 24025 is the bug that started the email thread.
15:19:50 <johnsim> Topic: EME bugs for discussion
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15:20:30 <johnsim> paulc: eight items under this agenda
15:20:46 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24771
15:21:56 <johnsim> paulc: we have those actions done. Adrian, Jerry or John want more time since no clarity on who from MSFT was going to look at this according to the March 4th meeting
15:23:06 <johnsim> Microsoft will review and enter their position in the bug
15:23:31 <johnsim> Subtopic: 24873
15:23:36 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24873
15:24:18 <johnsim> paulc: as far as I know this bug has not been assigned, extensive dialog yesterday on this, can you summarize, David?
15:25:49 <markw> Looks ok to me
15:26:00 <johnsim> paulc: anyone else who wants to review this before we move forward?
15:26:05 <johnsim> looks okay to me
15:27:02 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24873#c0
15:27:44 <johnsim> pal: concrete example of how this would work?
15:28:03 <johnsim> ddorwin: examples for key systems and type, but not on capability
15:28:37 <adrianba> i continue to think the idea of an unspecified string is probably going to be problematic
15:28:38 <johnsim> pal: significant change, an attempt what this would look like with common combinations of container, content protection systems
15:28:48 <johnsim> ddorwin: are examples in the bug
15:29:44 <johnsim> paulc: up the priority on 24951
15:30:12 <johnsim> pal: this is suggesting that video - two proposals at the top
15:30:24 <johnsim> ddorwin: the first one is the primary one, not tied to either one of them
15:30:58 <johnsim> paulc: this bug is assigned for implementation to ddorwin
15:31:19 <johnsim> Subtopic: 24874
15:31:23 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24874
15:31:42 <paulc> See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24874#c1
15:32:02 <johnsim> paulc: best plan to ask for someone to review this?
15:32:05 <johnsim> ddorwin: yes
15:32:25 <johnsim> jdsmith will review
15:32:33 <johnsim> Subtopic: 24904
15:32:36 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24904
15:33:59 <johnsim> paulc: there is a recent update, 24687 was resolved by specifying a copy should be made, in the html5 specification - proposing the same solution?
15:34:25 <johnsim> ddorwin: just an observation
15:34:43 <johnsim> paulc: html5 has decided to take a copy, does anyone object to doing the same?
15:35:05 <johnsim> paulc: not hearing an objection, should put it on the implementation list - assigned to ddorwin
15:35:11 <johnsim> based on solution in html5
15:35:21 <johnsim> subtopic: 29718
15:35:34 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21798
15:35:57 <johnsim> paulc: pending, lower priority
15:36:00 <johnsim> s/29718/21798/
15:36:17 <johnsim> subtopic: 24027
15:36:18 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24027
15:36:50 <johnsim> paulc: Mark, ready to be processed?
15:36:56 <ddorwin> q+
15:37:32 <paulc> ack dd
15:38:34 <johnsim> ddorwin: read this when markw sent it. confused on content
15:38:45 <johnsim> markw: from new version of common encryption spec
15:39:05 <johnsim> ddorwin: will want to review in more detail
15:39:22 <johnsim> johnsim: johnsim will review that also
15:40:04 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24419
15:40:21 <johnsim> depends on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27682
15:41:10 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17682
15:41:39 <johnsim> awaiting concrete proposal on solution which would have been used in 17682
15:42:20 <johnsim> Subtopic: 24419
15:42:32 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24419
15:42:45 <johnsim> Subtopic: 24673
15:42:50 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24673
15:42:55 <johnsim> depends on 24951
15:43:09 <johnsim> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24951
15:43:26 <johnsim> Topic: Implemented EME bugs awaiting review
15:44:05 <johnsim> Topic: 8. EME bugs awaiting Editor implementation or action
15:44:24 <johnsim> Topic: 9. EME bugs on hold or lower priority
15:44:57 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:44:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/18-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:45:21 <Zakim> -jdsmith
15:45:22 <Zakim> -davide
15:45:22 <Zakim> -adrianba
15:45:22 <Zakim> -markw
15:45:23 <Zakim> -paulc
15:45:23 <Zakim> -Plh
15:45:27 <Zakim> -pal
15:45:30 <Zakim> -ddorwin
15:45:32 <Zakim> -johnsim
15:45:33 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
15:45:33 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.425.936.aaaa, Plh, paulc, markw, davide, jdsmith, ddorwin, johnsim, pal, adrianba
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