15:10:03 RRSAgent has joined #hcls 15:10:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/18-hcls-irc 15:11:22 SimonLin has joined #hcls 15:11:32 Claude has joined #hcls 15:12:11 topic: RDF FHIR in OWL 15:12:29 Claude: want to discuss the approach 15:12:40 ... keeping the hierarchy as flat as possible 15:13:10 ... and then fit stuff into a Clinical Decision Support hierarchy 15:14:45 + +1.469.226.aabb 15:15:17 aabb is neda 15:15:25 Zakim, aabb is neda 15:15:25 +neda; got it 15:16:02 Claude: in the top of the hierarchy, there's a notion of an extensible FHIR element 15:16:24 ... subclasses are ClinicalDatatype (all FHIR Datatypes) and Resource 15:19:29 ericP: i'm expecting that extensions won't be extremely common in deployed FHIR 15:19:44 Claude: right, and we want the ontology to describe an open world 15:20:22 ... ExtensibleFhirElement is a disjoint union of ClinicalDataType and Resource 15:22:23 -> http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/datatypes.html FHIR datatypes 15:23:56 ericP: so the non-primative types are 21090 datatypes? 15:24:08 Claude: simplified 21090 15:26:26 ... example: Identifier:Label has a type (fhir:string) and a value (a string) 15:27:01 ... added IntervalDataType above Period and Range 15:27:30 ... Quantity already had children (e.g. Age, Count, Distance...) 15:27:53 ... Added RatioDataTypes above Ratio 15:28:52 ... you can have different types of ratios 15:29:24 ... current Ratio is of quantities 15:33:49 cnanjo@gmail.com 15:33:57 Zakim, aaaa is SimonLin 15:33:57 +SimonLin; got it 15:34:28 SimonLin: how would you represent questionairs? 15:34:46 Claude: Healthy Decisions ontology 15:35:09 mike has joined #hcls 15:35:50 Claude: introducing a hierarhcy for DateTime is useful as there are opperations you can perform uniformly across the hierarhcy 15:36:03 +Mike_Denny 15:36:14 ... i was trying to get the actual reasoner error 15:36:50 ... prob was that i need to utter all kinds of disjoint statements 15:37:40 ... so it makes sense that a Practitioner is disjoint from a ValueSet and an Organization. 15:37:53 ... when they're also a patient, they get a new identifier 15:39:13 ... CDS has a notion of a Person as a Practitioner or Patient 15:41:13 ericP: RIM cost is that you can end up creating on-the-fly participations for every Act 15:41:35 ... so querying a particular physician's outcomes is marginally more complex 15:41:43 -SimonLin 15:42:20 Claude: FHIR simplified by ending with a Patient or Practitioner 15:42:57 ... you can see other specializations of the (non-existent) Person like family member 15:46:44 -> http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/patient.html FHIR patient resource 15:47:14 Claude: min cardinalities > 0 are rare in FHIR 15:49:00 https://join.me/391-961-978 15:59:05 https://github.com/jmandel/fhir-rdf/blob/master/generic/tests/other-nonmon.ttl#L14 16:00:05 https://github.com/jmandel/fhir-rdf/blob/master/generic/tests/other-nonmon.ttl#L14 16:00:19 https://github.com/jmandel/fhir-rdf/blob/master/generic/tests/medicationprescription-nested-nonmon.ttl#L28 16:15:03 -Mike_Denny 16:15:43 -ericP 16:15:46 -[IPcaller] 16:15:54 -neda 16:15:56 SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended 16:15:56 Attendees were ericP, [IPcaller], +1.715.389.aaaa, +1.469.226.aabb, neda, SimonLin, Mike_Denny 16:41:21 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 16:41:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/18-hcls-minutes.html ericP 16:41:31 RRSAgent, please make log world-visible 16:57:56 mscottm has joined #hcls 17:05:26 egonw has joined #HCLS 17:33:08 egonw has joined #HCLS 17:46:31 mscottm has joined #hcls 18:01:42 Zakim has left #hcls 18:46:17 mscottm has joined #hcls