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14:25:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
14:25:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:25:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:25:18 <trackbot> Date: 07 March 2014
14:25:25 <Kathy> zakim, this will be 6283
14:25:25 <Zakim> ok, Kathy; I see WAI_MATF()10:00AM scheduled to start in 35 minutes
14:25:45 <Kathy> chair: Kim Patch
14:26:03 <Kathy> agenda?
14:26:21 <Kathy> agenda+ WCAG 2.0 Techniques & Understanding Documents
14:26:54 <Kathy> agenda+ Gap Analysis with external mobile guidelines
14:27:01 <Kathy> agenda+ Next Steps
14:27:03 <Kathy> agenda?
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14:31:57 <KimPatch> agenda?
14:51:34 <Zakim> WAI_MATF()10:00AM has now started
14:51:41 <Zakim> +Kim_Patch
14:53:08 <Zakim> +Kathy_Wahlbin
14:56:03 <Kathy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140228-survey/?
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14:59:17 <Zakim> + +1.910.278.aaaa
14:59:35 <kathleen> zakim, aaaa is me
14:59:35 <Zakim> +kathleen; got it
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15:00:54 <Zakim> +??P8
15:01:03 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P8 is Michael_Cooper
15:01:03 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
15:01:16 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Alan_Smith
15:01:16 <Zakim> +Alan_Smith; got it
15:01:20 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, kathleen, Alan_Smith, Michael_Cooper
15:01:31 <Zakim> +WuWei
15:02:04 <MichaelC> zakim, Alan is David_Tood
15:02:04 <Zakim> +David_Tood; got it
15:02:11 <MichaelC> zakim, David is David_Todd
15:02:11 <Zakim> +David_Todd; got it
15:02:33 <Kathy> scribe: Kathy
15:02:48 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2014Mar/0000.html
15:02:51 <Kathy> zakim, take up next
15:02:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "WCAG 2.0 Techniques & Understanding Documents" taken up [from Kathy]
15:03:22 <Zakim> +Alan_Smith
15:04:10 <Kathy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140228-survey/results
15:04:24 <Kathy> TOPIC: Survey Results
15:06:45 <Kathy> Kim: need a volunteer for Silverlight Techniques
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15:07:39 <Kathy> Kathleen:  works on Netflix on a mobile device, not supported on Windows.  I will research more
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15:08:42 <jon_avila> zakim, aacc is jon_avila
15:08:42 <Zakim> +jon_avila; got it
15:08:59 <Kathy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_Understanding_WCAG_2.0
15:09:10 <Kathy> Kim - we need volunteers for the understanding document
15:10:00 <Kathy> Kathy: broken into sections
15:10:12 <Kathy> David - I will do 3.1 - 3.2
15:10:40 <Kathy> Kathy - I will do 1.1-1.4
15:11:10 <Kathy> Kim - this can be done over the next couple of weeks
15:11:38 <Kathy> Kim - we will email for additional volunteers for the remaining sections
15:12:08 <Kathy> zakim, take up next
15:12:08 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Gap Analysis with external mobile guidelines" taken up [from Kathy]
15:12:23 <Kathy> Kim - Alan had a suggestion
15:14:01 <Kathy> Alan - mobile app has a main menu that flies in from the side that either replaces the content, the menu do not get read correctly.  This happens quite frequently when views are used
15:14:15 <jon_avila> q+
15:14:55 <Kathy> jon - are we doing techniques for specific platform
15:15:33 <Kathy> kathy - we have not determined that yet
15:15:58 <Kathy> jon - we should talk to organizations
15:16:12 <MichaelC> ack me
15:16:51 <Kathy> Michael - Apple is a member and we can solicit them
15:16:52 <jon_avila> q-
15:16:56 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
15:16:56 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
15:17:46 <Kathy> Kathy - jon how would we phrase that
15:17:55 <Kathy> Jon - there is a change of context and hiding content
15:18:10 <Kathy> Jon - I will look up and suggest this
15:19:09 <Kathy> Alan - issues when AT is turned on but works fine when not turned on
15:19:36 <Kathy> Kim - are there other missing techniques
15:20:06 <Kathy> Kim - Jan has sent a gap analysis with the BBC guidelines
15:20:34 <Kathy> Kim - the other two big guidelines should be reviewed.  Are there other guidelines?
15:21:04 <Kathy> Kim - BBC, Funka Nu and IBM
15:21:40 <Kathy> Kim - we are looking for volunteer for Funka Nu and IBM guidelines and put together similar report like Jan did for BBC
15:21:47 <Kathy> Alan - I will do the IBM guidelines
15:22:27 <MichaelC> ack me
15:23:00 <Kathy> http://www.funkanu.com/PageFiles/18509/Mobile-Navigation-Guidelines-Funka-2014.pdf
15:23:06 <Kathy> http://www.funkanu.com/PageFiles/18509/Guidelines_for_the_development_of_accessible_mobile_interfaces.pdf
15:23:20 <MichaelC> s/Alan - I will do/David - I will do/
15:23:25 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
15:23:25 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
15:23:48 <jon_avila> q+
15:24:46 <Kathy> jon - the guidelines are best practices and may not have direct mappings.  We should think about how they would be categorized - failures, advisory, best practice
15:25:40 <Kathy> kathy - good idea
15:26:01 <Kathy> Jon - look at the research between touch size
15:26:33 <Kathy> Kathy - look at MIT touch lab study
15:27:03 <Kathy> Kim - should we look at the on the research side
15:27:32 <Kathy> Kathy - we will reach out to the mailing list
15:27:43 <Kathy> zakim, take up next
15:27:43 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Kathy
15:29:27 <Kathy> Kathy - take the rest of the meeting to work on the techniques and the understanding doc
15:30:18 <Kathy> Kim - we will have a meeting next week
15:30:24 <jon_avila> q+
15:30:28 <Kathy> Kim - no meeting the following week
15:30:58 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:30:59 <Zakim> -Alan_Smith
15:30:59 <Zakim> -David_Todd
15:31:00 <Zakim> -jon_avila
15:31:00 <Zakim> -kathleen
15:31:02 <Zakim> -Kathy_Wahlbin
15:31:07 <Zakim> -WuWei
15:31:15 <MichaelC> q- j
15:31:16 <Kathy> 	1. zakim, list attendees
15:31:22 <Kathy> zakim, list attendees
15:31:22 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, +1.910.278.aaaa, kathleen, +1.720.663.aabb, Michael_Cooper, Alan_Smith, WuWei, David_Tood, David_Todd,
15:31:26 <Zakim> ... +1.703.637.aacc, jon_avila
15:31:42 <Kathy> rrsagent, make minutes
15:31:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kathy
15:31:47 <Zakim> -Kim_Patch
15:31:48 <Zakim> WAI_MATF()10:00AM has ended
15:31:48 <Zakim> Attendees were Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, +1.910.278.aaaa, kathleen, +1.720.663.aabb, Michael_Cooper, Alan_Smith, WuWei, David_Tood, David_Todd, +1.703.637.aacc, jon_avila
15:32:23 <Kathy> rrsagent, make log world
15:33:01 <Kathy> Regrets: Alistair, Jan
15:33:04 <Kathy> rrsagent, make minutes
15:33:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kathy
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