12:58:31 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:58:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-dwbp-irc 12:58:33 RRSAgent, make logs 351 12:58:33 Zakim has joined #dwbp 12:58:35 Zakim, this will be DWBP 12:58:35 ok, trackbot, I see DATA_DWBP()8:00AM already started 12:58:36 Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 12:58:36 Date: 07 March 2014 12:58:47 rrsagent, make logs public 12:59:06 Ig_Bittencourt has joined #DWBP 12:59:10 zakim, code? 12:59:10 the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan 12:59:16 antoine has joined #dwbp 12:59:17 +[IPcaller.a] 12:59:20 yaso has joined #dwbp 12:59:33 deirdrelee has joined #dwbp 12:59:44 martin has joined #DWBP 12:59:53 +??P3 13:00:00 +[IPcaller.aa] 13:00:06 zakim, IPcaller.a is me 13:00:06 +antoine; got it 13:00:12 zakim, IPcaller.aa is me 13:00:12 +antoine; got it 13:00:19 PhilA has joined #dwbp 13:00:21 Zakim, IPcaller.aa is me 13:00:21 sorry, dschwabe, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller.aa' 13:00:39 Zakim, IPCaller.aa is me 13:00:39 sorry, dschwabe, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller.aa' 13:00:43 zakim, code? 13:00:43 the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA 13:00:50 zakim, IPcaller.a is dschwabe 13:00:50 sorry, antoine, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller.a' 13:01:02 +Ivan 13:01:07 zakim, mute me 13:01:07 Ivan should now be muted 13:01:11 +??P8 13:01:18 zakim, who is here? 13:01:18 On the phone I see [IPcaller], antoine, ??P3, antoine.a, Ivan (muted), ??P8 13:01:21 On IRC I see PhilA, martin, deirdrelee, yaso, antoine, Ig_Bittencourt, Zakim, RRSAgent, dschwabe, CarlosIglesias, GiancarloGuizzardi, ivan, Caroline_, trackbot 13:01:23 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:01:27 zakim, ??P8 is me 13:01:27 +Ig_Bittencourt; got it 13:01:37 +Caroline 13:01:37 zakim, antoine is dschwabe 13:01:37 +dschwabe; got it 13:01:39 Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso 13:01:39 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' 13:01:44 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:01:44 +deirdrelee; got it 13:01:45 Zakim, IPCaller.a is me 13:01:45 sorry, dschwabe, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller.a' 13:01:48 zakim, antoine.a is me 13:01:48 +antoine; got it 13:01:56 Zakim, Caroline_ is Caroline 13:01:56 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' 13:02:06 Makx has joined #dwbp 13:02:07 zakim, who is here? 13:02:07 On the phone I see deirdrelee, dschwabe, ??P3, antoine, Ivan (muted), Ig_Bittencourt, Caroline 13:02:10 On IRC I see Makx, nathalia, PhilA, martin, deirdrelee, yaso, antoine, Ig_Bittencourt, Zakim, RRSAgent, dschwabe, CarlosIglesias, GiancarloGuizzardi, ivan, Caroline_, trackbot 13:02:28 Zakim, yaso has Nathalia, Vanessa 13:02:29 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:02:35 HadleyBeeman has joined #dwbp 13:02:51 Zakim, Yaso has nathalia 13:02:51 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso' 13:02:53 vanessa_tonini has joined #dwbp 13:02:53 +??P11 13:03:04 zakim, ??P11 is me 13:03:06 HadleyBeeman1 has joined #dwbp 13:03:06 +martin; got it 13:03:07 cgueret has joined #dwbp 13:03:09 +[IPcaller] 13:03:12 +HadleyBeeman 13:03:14 zakim, ipcaller is me 13:03:14 Caroline_ has joined #DWBP 13:03:14 +PhilA; got it 13:03:20 Zakim, Yaso has Vanessa 13:03:20 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso' 13:03:28 zakim, who is here? 13:03:28 On the phone I see deirdrelee, dschwabe, ??P3, antoine, Ivan (muted), Ig_Bittencourt, Caroline, martin, PhilA, HadleyBeeman 13:03:31 On IRC I see Caroline_, cgueret, HadleyBeeman1, vanessa_tonini, Makx, nathalia, PhilA, martin, deirdrelee, yaso, antoine, Ig_Bittencourt, Zakim, RRSAgent, dschwabe, CarlosIglesias, 13:03:31 ... GiancarloGuizzardi, ivan, trackbot 13:03:45 +??P15 13:03:45 Zakim, Caroline has Yaso, Vanessa, Nathalia, Vagner 13:03:45 +Yaso, Vanessa, Nathalia, Vagner; got it 13:03:51 zakim, ??P15 is me 13:03:51 +cgueret; got it 13:03:57 Hi there! 13:04:00 +??P14 13:04:08 zakim, mute me 13:04:08 cgueret should now be muted 13:04:09 Hi cgueret! 13:04:11 Zakim, Yaso has Vanessa_tonini 13:04:11 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso' 13:04:22 BernadetteLoscio has joined #dwbp 13:04:25 PhilA has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140307 13:04:27 Zakim, mute me 13:04:27 Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted 13:04:35 meeting: DWBP Weekly telecon 13:04:37 zakim, mute me 13:04:37 martin should now be muted 13:04:38 Zakim, Caroline has Newton 13:04:38 +Newton; got it 13:04:39 chair: Yaso 13:04:46 gatemezi has joined #dwbp 13:05:24 Scribe: Caroline 13:05:28 Caroline is scribe today 13:05:38 thx Caroline 13:05:46 No problem! :) 13:05:49 Yes 13:05:52 +1 13:05:53 Vagner_Br has joined #dwbp 13:05:54 +??P16 13:06:07 zakim, ??p16 is me 13:06:07 +CarlosIglesias; got it 13:06:12 Agenda: 13:06:12 Ig_Bittencourt Zakim, mute me 13:06:33 PROPOSAL: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-28 13:06:34 Zakim, mute me 13:06:34 dschwabe should now be muted 13:06:37 +1 13:06:38 +1 13:06:39 +1 13:06:41 +1 13:06:41 +1 13:06:45 +1 13:06:48 APPROVE last minutes call http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-28 13:06:49 +1 13:06:50 +1 13:06:59 newton has joined #dwbp 13:07:02 adler1 has joined #DWBP 13:07:03 +1 13:07:05 +1 13:07:06 APPROVED: last minutes call http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-28 13:07:19 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014#Agenda 13:07:22 Topic: London Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014#Agenda 13:07:26 + 13:07:31 Yaso: we should discuss London's Agenda 13:07:34 s/+ /+ 13:07:55 ... we have a proposition for 2 working days for the face to face meeting 13:07:56 q+ 13:07:58 + +1.516.944.aaaa 13:08:27 zakim, aaaa is adler1 13:08:28 +adler1; got it 13:08:28 q? 13:08:39 ack HadleyBeeman 13:08:41 Vagner_Br has joined #dwbp 13:08:48 +[IPcaller] 13:08:54 HadleyBeeman1: Spoke to Paul Maltby who is director of transparency at the UK Cabinet Office 13:08:56 Zakim, who's making noise? 13:08:58 q+ 13:08:59 zakim, who is noisy? 13:09:06 yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (10%), HadleyBeeman (14%), ??P14 (90%) 13:09:06 zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio 13:09:09 +BernadetteLoscio; got it 13:09:14 Zakim, mute P14 13:09:14 sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to P14 13:09:16 zakim, mute ??P14 13:09:16 ??P14 should now be muted 13:09:18 PhilA, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P14 (53%) 13:09:46 Hadley: for the first speaking on the face to face probably will be Paul Maltby 13:09:50 q? 13:09:58 ... we are waiting for his answer about the time schedule 13:10:23 Antoine: I also asked for the street maps person to come to the face to face meeting 13:10:47 Steve: the street map guy would love to come and speak to us 13:11:06 Phil: if money becomes an issue there are other options 13:11:22 q? 13:11:22 Steve: I just want to found out if there was not restriction about funding him 13:11:36 q+ 13:12:00 Ack antoine 13:12:02 q+ To clarify position on T&S funding generally 13:12:14 Steve: Hadley could check if Paul Maltby will speake in the morning 13:12:20 Q? 13:12:26 ack Caroline_ 13:12:45 Caroline: is it ok, that we will have 2 speakers? 13:12:56 Antoine: I will be not able to stay on the afternoon on the second day 13:12:56 ack Phil 13:12:56 PhilA, you wanted to clarify position on T&S funding generally 13:13:03 q? 13:13:05 gsuarez has joined #dwbp 13:13:17 q+ 13:13:48 Ack antoine 13:13:59 Phil: I just want to clarify that is no W3C founding to the face to face meeting 13:14:24 Antoine: I am wondering for what the intervations would be used for the documents 13:14:24 q+ 13:14:31 q+ 13:14:43 ... I think we need more gerenal discussion and aligning different goals for the documents 13:15:11 ack deirdreelee 13:15:26 q? 13:15:31 deirdrelee? 13:15:34 ack deirdrelee 13:15:41 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:15:41 On the phone I see deirdrelee, dschwabe (muted), ??P3, antoine, Ivan (muted), Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, martin (muted), PhilA, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), ??P14 (muted), 13:15:43 zakim, unmute me 13:15:44 ... CarlosIglesias, adler1, BernadetteLoscio 13:15:44 Caroline has Newton 13:15:44 Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted 13:15:47 Yaso: we can start discussing the next topics on the face to face agenda regarding Antoine propositions 13:15:51 ack Ig_bittencourt 13:15:58 q? 13:15:58 http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter 13:16:08 Ig: my question is about the charter http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter 13:16:08 q? 13:16:13 zakim, unmute dschwabe 13:16:13 dschwabe should no longer be muted 13:16:20 ... the vocabularies deliverable are for April 13:16:43 q+ to talk about timescales 13:16:44 q? 13:16:46 ... just to answer Antoine this discussion would take place on the 2nd day of the face to face meeting 13:16:57 ... maybe it is too rearly? 13:17:11 Steve: I think this 2 activities can be done at the same time 13:17:35 Ack deirdrelee 13:17:37 Ig: in the agenda it says we should wirte also these 2 documents on vocabulary 13:17:45 mute me 13:17:54 deirdrelee: the use cases document should be a note 13:18:15 q+ 13:18:19 ... hopefully we will have documents ready to agree during the face to face meeting 13:18:38 Steve: I think there is 2 different leves of maturity in this group 13:19:07 q+ 13:19:08 Ack PhilA 13:19:08 PhilA, you wanted to talk about timescales 13:19:25 ... some people have an idea what to belong in the document and other people want to discuss what wouls be in the document 13:19:36 Zakim, ??P3 is me 13:19:36 +dschwabe; got it 13:19:40 q- 13:19:45 PhilA: it is very imporant that the group has a draft and seems to be producing stuff 13:19:47 -??P14 13:19:51 q- 13:20:01 ... the WG should publish something at least every three months 13:20:12 Zakim, mute me 13:20:12 Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted 13:20:20 +??P14 13:20:21 ... it shows that is publishes documents, which don't have to be finished 13:20:49 zakim, p14 is me 13:20:49 sorry, Makx, I do not recognize a party named 'p14' 13:20:53 ... at the end of the face to face meeting we should have document that will provide at least a draft, which could be changed latter 13:21:01 zakim, ??P14 is makx 13:21:01 +makx; got it 13:21:10 ... it should help to clarify where the group is going 13:21:29 q? 13:21:31 Ack hadleybeeman 13:21:39 ... we do need to get the use cases, and then we could make a start on the vocabularies as well 13:22:01 q- 13:22:07 Hadley: I hear Steve points that we may have different things going on, but I think it is a good thing 13:22:15 ... we could make some divisions 13:22:15 Zaquim, q- 13:22:26 Zakim, q- 13:22:26 I see ??P3 on the speaker queue 13:22:33 zakim, mute me 13:22:33 makx should now be muted 13:22:44 Zakim, mute me 13:22:44 dschwabe should now be muted 13:22:45 ... I think we may end up adding a few categories hegarding best practices 13:22:51 Zakim, Who is ??P3 13:22:51 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Who' 13:22:54 q? 13:23:02 Zakim, who is ??P3 13:23:02 I don't understand 'who is ??P3', yaso 13:23:09 q? 13:23:12 ... I think it would be great to encourage anybody who wants to have these conversations or who wants to start writting 13:23:13 ??P# 13:23:18 why couldn't we have discussions organized by deliverable sections with supporting use cases and scribes who record salient information into the documents? 13:23:22 ack ??P3 13:23:32 zakim, who is here? 13:23:32 On the phone I see deirdrelee, dschwabe (muted), dschwabe.a, antoine, Ivan (muted), Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, martin (muted), PhilA, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), 13:23:34 Vagner_Br has joined #dwbp 13:23:36 ... CarlosIglesias, adler1, BernadetteLoscio, makx (muted) 13:23:36 Caroline has Newton 13:23:36 On IRC I see gsuarez, adler1, newton, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio, Caroline_, cgueret, hadleybeeman, vanessa_tonini, Makx, nathalia, PhilA, martin, deirdrelee, yaso, antoine, 13:23:36 ... Ig_Bittencourt, Zakim, RRSAgent, dschwabe, CarlosIglesias, GiancarloGuizzardi, ivan, trackbot 13:23:43 q? 13:23:51 Steve: I think we can do all the things we discussed rigth now 13:24:04 PhilA: we should aim to have first public working draft of Use Case document after F2F 13:24:09 ... we can have the discussion about use cases and at the same time we can put them in the documents 13:24:24 ... the document should be based on the use cases almost as foot notes 13:24:25 +1 to BPs based on use cases. That's important 13:24:43 q+ 13:25:04 ... we are talking and someone is scribing, we are negotiating who is talking and who is scribing, we could do the same at the face to face meeting 13:25:24 +1 13:25:31 ack antoine 13:25:34 Yaso: it seems to me that we are slowing the document with the use cases. We should use them to have something to work on 13:25:49 Zakim, dschwabe.a is me 13:25:49 +dschwabe; got it 13:26:04 q? 13:26:07 Antoine: we are all meeting today to discuss about the document. I think we know we all agree 13:26:08 Zakim, mute me 13:26:08 dschwabe was already muted, dschwabe 13:26:17 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014#Agenda 13:26:26 q+ 13:26:29 Yaso: still not a consensus about the proposal agenda 13:26:39 Zakim, dschwabe is me 13:26:39 +deirdrelee; got it 13:26:47 q? 13:26:50 ack me 13:26:51 ... the question Caroline put earlier: do we want 2 keynote speakers or more of a working agenda? 13:26:55 Ack PhilA 13:27:11 s/discuss about the document/discuss about the meeting not the minutes of it/ 13:27:11 Zakim, dschwabe.a is me 13:27:11 +dschwabe; got it 13:27:17 q? 13:27:22 s/we know/we now 13:27:27 PhilA: Yaso, you said we don't agree with teh agenda, but I think there is more agreement than we think 13:27:36 q+ 13:27:36 s /founding/funding 13:27:44 Yaso: I just want to finish this discussion to go further to the next topic 13:27:48 q+ 13:28:04 PROPOSAL: do we with the agenda that is in the week? 13:28:17 Ack adler 13:28:36 Steve: maybe we could change the agenda appearing to be more inclusive of what we just discussed 13:28:45 No sure to understand the proposal.. 13:28:48 q+ 13:28:53 ... we want to use the use cases to make the documents? 13:28:58 Steve++ 13:29:08 ... we can work on the documents and the use cases at the same time 13:29:08 Ack Vagner_Br 13:29:18 s/found/find 13:29:22 Zakim, unmute me 13:29:23 deirdrelee was not muted, deirdrelee 13:29:31 Vagner: I am no sure that we are clear about what we want with this face to face meeting 13:29:52 s/week/wiki 13:29:56 ... we tried to propose an agenda with very specific deliverables at the end of this face to face meeting in London 13:30:10 ... I am not sure we agree with the deliverables on this face to face meeting 13:30:24 ... we must agree with what we want at the end of the meeting 13:30:44 ... the agenda proposed on the Wiki it has 3 deliverables for the face to face meeting 13:31:02 s/no/not 13:31:45 +1 to Vagner_Br, we still don't have consensus on what we want from the F2F meeting 13:31:51 ... we have to work more in the documents to be able to deliverable this items 13:32:13 -HadleyBeeman 13:32:18 ... we should have the document of use cases more advanced to be notes 13:32:24 q? 13:32:40 ... if each of us assume tasks to wirte the document before London it would be easier 13:32:42 +HadleyBeeman 13:32:57 IMHO, the goal of the meeting is to get to know each other and learn how to become efficient working together 13:33:09 zamim, unmute dschwabe 13:33:10 zakim, unmute dschwabe 13:33:10 dschwabe was not muted, PhilA 13:33:13 q? 13:33:33 zakim, unmute deirdrelee 13:33:33 deirdrelee was not muted, deirdrelee 13:33:45 Yaso: we are not sure what we want from the face to face meeting 13:34:01 q+ 13:34:07 Sorry, there was some confusion on the phone line between Deirdre and me, but I think I fixed it... I should be dschwabe.a (caller) 13:34:15 Vagner: I just want to add some point about my point. My reflection on this is very much connected with the deadlines on the charter 13:34:25 ok, dschwabe 13:34:26 ... we must delivery some products on May 13:34:31 zakim, unmute dschwabe.a 13:34:31 sorry, deirdrelee, I do not know which phone connection belongs to dschwabe.a 13:34:44 +1 to vagner. We do need to deliver things, and should make the most of the time we have together. 13:34:51 (and the time beforehand) 13:34:51 Zakim, dschwabe.a is me 13:34:51 sorry, dschwabe, I do not recognize a party named 'dschwabe.a' 13:34:59 ... if you want to keep this agenda and the deadlines on the charter we must work hard before the face to face meeting 13:35:02 +1 to Vagner 13:35:04 q+ 13:35:07 ack me 13:35:12 ack PhilA 13:35:13 ... if we are not ready to do it we should do some changes on the charter 13:35:21 the deadlines are creating anxiety 13:35:22 q- 13:35:35 agree with Vagner_Br 13:35:35 PhilA: it is clear that we will not get the public document on May 13:35:42 -deirdrelee.a 13:35:51 ... the best practices must be grounded on the use cases 13:35:57 q+ 13:36:03 ... it will set the scope on the work ahead 13:36:07 +[IPcaller] 13:36:11 PhilA+++++++++++ 13:36:19 PhilA+ 13:36:21 ... I feel that if we spend the 2 days on the use cases it would be okay 13:36:33 Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:36:33 +deirdrelee; got it 13:36:47 ... my preference for a target if you want a specific target is that there is enough information for the use case document 13:36:56 ... we could consider the vocab documents 13:36:57 q+ 13:37:09 ... the use cases are fundamental for any wg 13:37:18 Zakim, unmute me 13:37:18 deirdrelee was not muted, deirdrelee 13:37:20 ... you get basis to solve the problems 13:37:33 q- 13:37:39 ack deirdreelee 13:37:40 Yaso: it seems that the last topic on the agenda has just been answered by PhilA 13:37:56 deirdreelee: the first point is related to the agenda 13:38:16 q? 13:38:21 ... one task about the use cases and the other about the vocabs does not make sense to be runing in paralel 13:38:22 ack deirdrelee 13:38:22 ack deirdrelee 13:38:25 Deirdre+ 13:38:43 ... regarding the use cases we are trying to progress them. At the moment we have 4 use cases 13:38:47 q+ 13:39:00 ... I suggest the writers speake about them 13:39:12 ... I encourage everyone writes about use cases 13:39:15 s/deidreelee/deirdrelee 13:39:19 q? 13:39:27 ack adler 13:39:29 ack adler 13:39:39 Steve: I think this has been a really constructive conversation today 13:39:52 ... all of us as a group have not met 13:40:05 ... social integration is as important as deliverables 13:40:25 +1 to Steve 13:40:26 working is social integration :-D 13:40:30 +1 ! 13:40:30 +1 13:40:36 ... I think the excitment about the deliverables are important, but we should have the moment to get to know each other during the first meeting 13:40:57 q? 13:41:01 q- 13:41:06 ... we should give ourselves the freedom to get to know each other so everybody feels they are contributing with the group 13:41:15 ack hadleybeeman 13:41:26 ack antoine 13:41:30 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/index.php?title=London_2014#Attendees 13:41:38 Antoine: about the discussion on the agenda 13:41:45 ... ?? 13:42:03 q+ 13:42:04 +1 antoine 13:42:14 Zakim, unmute me 13:42:14 Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted 13:42:14 antoine: Sees only 8 people on the attendee list - if people are going they need to add themselves to the list on the wiki 13:42:20 +1 13:42:22 ... I think if we are really 8 people on the meeting there will be a lot of consequences of what we could do during the face to face meeting 13:42:25 ack Ig_bittencourt 13:42:35 Ig: I will attend 13:42:40 Zakim, mute me 13:42:40 Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted 13:42:55 ack Vagner_br 13:42:58 q? 13:43:14 q+ 13:43:15 Vagner: I am surprise that we should not be pressured on the deadlines 13:43:35 ... I though we should follow the deadlines on the charter 13:43:40 ack hadleybeeman 13:43:51 ... unless we would like to change the deadlines 13:43:58 Vagner, I mean that the deadline to produce the first draft 30 days after our meeting is too soon 13:44:26 Hadley: my understading is that the end of the charter is fixed, but we can be flexible with the deliverables in the meantime 13:44:57 ... I agree we don't have a lot of time on the WG an each of us don't have much time as well 13:45:03 I would propose moving out the 1st draft date another 30-60 days to June or July 13:45:09 ... we should setting a concrete as we can, agenda 13:45:21 q+ 13:45:22 q? 13:45:32 ... so we each of us can know how and with what we can contribute 13:45:59 PhilA: it says in the charter that we should have the 1st public WG document by may 13:46:05 PhilA +1 13:46:21 ... if we can get the use cases document published we are showing progress 13:46:23 q+ 13:46:26 PhilA +1 13:46:36 +1 13:46:50 +1 to PhilA. Sounds productive to me. 13:47:08 ack adler 13:47:10 +1 13:47:24 q- 13:47:49 adler1: I think it is not easy to have long conversations on the phone about the use cases 13:48:15 ... we can discuss it in person and organize to discuss the use cases 13:48:32 +1 to adler1, telling the marketplace that we're starting with their problems. Well said. 13:48:36 ... we are also honoring all the people that have contributed with the use cases 13:48:37 q? 13:48:52 q- 13:49:01 ... we will show them that we are actually using the use cases they have contributed with 13:49:22 Yaso: I think we have to work on the agenda during this week 13:49:34 ... now we should discuss about the time zone change 13:49:36 q+ to pick up on Deirdre's point 13:49:43 q+ 13:49:48 Ack philA 13:49:48 PhilA, you wanted to pick up on Deirdre's point 13:50:22 PhilA: deirdrelle said about helping with the use cases 13:50:27 +1 13:50:31 It is really important to discuss a little more about the use cases 13:50:33 s/deirdelle/deirdrelee 13:50:34 +1 13:50:41 ... we must agree on the use cases before the face to face meeting in London 13:50:48 PhilA +1 13:50:56 Yaso: we could use more the mail list 13:51:08 ... we should talk more about the use cases document by email 13:51:18 ack Caroline_ 13:51:22 topic: Time Zones 13:52:00 Info - the US cnages to Summer Time, i.e. moves ahead this weekend 13:52:08 s/cnages/changes/ 13:52:08 +q 13:52:10 Antoine suggest to just pick a slot: it's just for two weeks 13:52:21 ack Makx 13:52:23 yes 13:52:26 ack Maks 13:52:35 ack Makx 13:52:52 q? 13:52:52 Makx: I just said 3pm would be more difficult 13:53:08 Makx: 15:00 CET will be more difficult for me, but not impossible 13:53:14 ... I'll go with the majority 13:53:17 ... I just go with the majority 13:54:06 PROPOSAL: move the call to 1 hour later, which would be at 9am in USA time zone 13:54:06 so the time will remain at 8am ET, but that will be 3pm Brussels time 13:54:31 +1 13:54:34 +1 13:54:35 +1 13:54:36 no, 9am ET next week will still be 7 hours later than 9am 13:54:38 +1 13:54:44 +1 13:54:47 s /USA/USA EST/ 13:54:47 +1 13:54:48 +q 13:54:52 +1 13:54:55 zakim, unmute me 13:54:55 Ivan should no longer be muted 13:54:56 ack adler 13:54:57 ack adler 13:55:52 got it 13:56:09 +1 13:56:13 +1 13:56:16 abstain 13:56:18 +1 13:56:43 It's a permanent change 13:57:02 Vagner_Br has joined #dwbp 13:57:20 As one of the europeans, I am fine with the change 13:57:42 abstain 13:58:22 why don't we refer to UTC? 13:58:22 q+ 13:58:23 Steve, my concern is I am sceptical with the possibility of writing a document in a meeting. As far as the wiki is evolving I don't believe we will have a substantive document to discuss about. On the other hand I guess it is to much burden to put upon editor's shoulder. Again, if we don't distribute tasks among the group I guess we may arrive in London with very few to move ahead. 13:58:34 ack adler 13:58:50 Steve: I would like to organize 2 more use cases 13:58:59 zakim, mute me 13:58:59 Ivan should now be muted 13:59:14 ... next week will be about NYC, regarding the programm that runned 3 years ago 13:59:25 Next Week's meeting will be at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DWBP+Weekly+telecon+Fri+14+March+2014&iso=20140314T09&p1=43&ah=1 13:59:26 ... the following on will be about LA 13:59:43 ... I hope the time is good and people can participate 13:59:58 Yaso: we should put that on the wiki and I can do that for you 14:00:17 +1 14:00:26 no i abstained 14:00:29 ... about the time of the follow meetings we all agreed on the proposal that it will be at EST 9am 14:00:36 zakim, drop me 14:00:38 Ivan is being disconnected 14:00:38 -Ivan 14:00:43 ACCEPTED: The regular meeting time will be 09:00 Eastern Standard Time 14:00:50 suggest we do lightening rounds for use case discussions - each member gets 5 minutes to present a use case 14:01:02 bye 14:01:02 +1 to adler1 14:01:04 next week 14:01:13 bye! 14:01:14 bye 14:01:15 Bye. Thanks 14:01:17 thanks! bye! 14:01:17 bye 14:01:18 martin has left #dwbp 14:01:18 -HadleyBeeman 14:01:18 thx bye 14:01:19 -adler1 14:01:19 -PhilA 14:01:20 -antoine 14:01:20 bye! 14:01:21 -makx 14:01:23 bye 14:01:24 -martin 14:01:24 bye 14:01:25 -deirdrelee.a 14:01:25 -cgueret 14:01:25 bye 14:01:29 nathalia has left #dwbp 14:01:29 -Ig_Bittencourt 14:01:44 -CarlosIglesias 14:03:39 -dschwabe 14:03:59 -Caroline 14:04:01 -deirdrelee 14:04:21 -GiancarloGuizzardi 14:04:46 zakim, bye 14:04:46 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Ivan, Ig_Bittencourt, deirdrelee, antoine, martin, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, Yaso, Vanessa, Nathalia, Vagner, cgueret, Newton, 14:04:47 Zakim has left #dwbp 14:04:50 ... 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