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15:45:59 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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15:46:17 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
15:46:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:46:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:46:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
15:46:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
15:46:22 <trackbot> Date: 06 March 2014
15:46:38 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Mar/0004.html
15:46:47 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix
15:47:09 <aphillip> Regrets+ JcK
15:47:29 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR
15:47:42 <aphillip> agenda+ Quotation Marks in Multilingual Text
15:47:56 <aphillip> agenda+ Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs (deferred)
15:48:08 <aphillip> agenda+ What Time Is This Meeting At?
15:48:30 <aphillip> agenda?
15:48:42 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world
15:48:46 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:48:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:49:11 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:49:16 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:49:19 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
15:49:24 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:49:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:59:52 <matial> matial has joined #i18n
16:00:00 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
16:00:08 <Zakim> +aphillip
16:00:10 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
16:00:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip
16:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see matial, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, trackbot
16:00:27 <koji> koji has joined #i18n
16:00:28 <David> David has joined #i18n
16:01:02 <Zakim> +??P4
16:01:13 <matial> zakim, ??p4 is me
16:01:13 <Zakim> +matial; got it
16:01:16 <Zakim> +David_Clarke
16:01:48 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
16:01:48 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:01:49 <Zakim> +Richard
16:02:45 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
16:02:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, matial, David_Clarke, Richard
16:02:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see David, koji, matial, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, trackbot
16:03:37 <aphillip> agenda?
16:04:19 <Zakim> +koji
16:04:29 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
16:04:30 <aphillip> agenda?
16:04:48 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:04:54 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
16:05:48 <aphillip> close action-290
16:05:48 <trackbot> Closed action-290.
16:06:00 <aphillip> close action-291
16:06:00 <trackbot> Closed action-291.
16:06:49 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:06:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:07:26 <aphillip> agenda?
16:07:34 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:07:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]
16:07:44 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
16:09:35 <aphillip> CSS3 replies on borders and backgrounds
16:09:50 <r12a> zakim, who's noisy?
16:10:01 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_Clarke (59%)
16:10:03 <aphillip> action: addison: reply to CSS3 borders and backgrounds responses
16:10:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-294 - Reply to css3 borders and backgrounds responses [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-03-13].
16:10:13 <aphillip> agenda?
16:11:06 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:11:06 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs (deferred)" taken up [from aphillip]
16:11:07 <David> zakim, mute me
16:11:09 <Zakim> David_Clarke should now be muted
16:11:29 <aphillip> richard: don hollander contacted jeff jaffe
16:11:45 <aphillip> ... wanted to know if w3c would help with "universal access"
16:12:05 <aphillip> ... in particular to get IDN TLDs
16:12:12 <aphillip> ... because they don't work universally
16:12:28 <aphillip> ... he wants to get this solved by getting stakeholders
16:12:36 <aphillip> ... trying to facilitate
16:12:54 <aphillip> ... subscribed him to winter list
16:13:36 <aphillip> addison: there's a document?
16:13:45 <aphillip> richard: yep
16:14:03 <aphillip> agenda?
16:14:26 <aphillip> Topic: Two articles updates
16:14:27 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2014JanMar/0065.html
16:14:39 <aphillip>  Declaring character encodings in CSS http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset-new  Choosing & applying a character encoding http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-choosing-encodings-new
16:14:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:14:59 <aphillip> richard: related to article in wide review
16:15:13 <aphillip> ... was working on these also, was working on the css encoding artcile
16:15:29 <aphillip> ... some cultural shift since the lsat version of these articles
16:15:43 <aphillip> ... e.g.. CSS now prefers just using UTF-8 to using @charset
16:15:48 <aphillip> ... and make more digestable
16:15:56 <aphillip> ... give overview of answer right at top
16:16:00 <aphillip> ... please have a look
16:16:59 <aphillip> action: richard: send two new documents on choosing/declaring character encodings to wide review
16:16:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-295 - Send two new documents on choosing/declaring character encodings to wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-03-13].
16:17:05 <aphillip> agenda?
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16:17:18 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:17:18 <Zakim> agendum 4. "What Time Is This Meeting At?" taken up [from aphillip]
16:17:48 <Zakim> +??P11
16:19:36 <aphillip> addison: propose to keep same time
16:19:36 <matial> earlier is better for me too
16:19:44 <aphillip> .. but new asian members
16:19:51 <aphillip> ... do we want to run a poll?
16:19:58 <aphillip> richard: same time fine by me
16:20:02 <aphillip> koji: me too
16:20:31 <David> time is fine by me, but...
16:20:52 <aphillip> action: addison: navigate DST/Summer Time transition to keep call's time intact after DST change
16:20:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-296 - Navigate dst/summer time transition to keep call's time intact after dst change [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-03-13].
16:20:55 <David> the people not on the call are the ones who may find it most inconvenient
16:21:48 <David> Keep it on GMT until Europe changes
16:22:41 <matial> yes
16:23:15 <aphillip> Time     : 16:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140227T1600
16:24:31 <David> I'll run the poll
16:24:47 <aphillip> action: david: poll users for What Time is this Meeting At
16:24:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-297 - Poll users for what time is this meeting at [on David Clarke - due 2014-03-13].
16:25:31 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:25:42 <David> is doodle.com OK for poll?
16:26:03 <David> zakim, unmute me
16:26:03 <Zakim> David_Clarke should no longer be muted
16:26:51 <David> zakim, mute me
16:26:51 <Zakim> David_Clarke should now be muted
16:26:52 <aphillip> agenda+ CSS3 Text bugs
16:26:57 <aphillip> agenda+ BOM in IE
16:27:06 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 6
16:27:06 <Zakim> agendum 6. "BOM in IE" taken up [from aphillip]
16:27:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:27:38 <aphillip> richard: CSS3 changed spec to say BOM has higher precedence than HTTP
16:27:43 <aphillip> ... similar to HTML
16:27:50 <aphillip> ... and browsers used to do that
16:28:00 <aphillip> ... except IE10 changed to follow older CSS2.1
16:28:09 <aphillip> ... so now IE is out of line
16:28:24 <aphillip> ... claimed it's a mistake and thoght to change in IE11
16:28:31 <aphillip> ... but didn't appear to happen in IE11
16:28:58 <aphillip> ... so want to seek status of change in IE12
16:29:58 <aphillip> action: richard: ask MSFT for information on IE12 respecting BOM over HTTP encoding change
16:29:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-298 - Ask msft for information on ie12 respecting bom over http encoding change [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-03-13].
16:30:10 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 5
16:30:10 <Zakim> agendum 5. "CSS3 Text bugs" taken up [from aphillip]
16:30:21 <aphillip> richard: sent in issues about css3 text
16:30:29 <aphillip> ... some of them wrapped into another discussion
16:30:35 <aphillip> koji: aware of them
16:31:00 <aphillip> ... working on other things, then hope to take up in a couple of weeks
16:31:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:32:01 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:32:41 <Zakim> -David_Clarke
16:32:43 <Zakim> -fsasaki
16:32:51 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:32:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:33:20 <Zakim> -matial
16:33:34 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
16:33:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, Richard, koji
16:33:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see koji, matial, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, trackbot
16:42:51 <Zakim> -aphillip
16:42:55 <Zakim> -koji
16:43:13 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
16:43:13 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
16:43:14 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
16:43:14 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, matial, David_Clarke, Richard, koji, fsasaki
16:43:26 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:43:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:43:29 <aphillip> zakim, bye
16:43:29 <Zakim> Zakim has left #i18n
16:43:54 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, David, Mati, Koji
16:43:59 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:43:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:44:06 <aphillip> present+ Felix
16:44:10 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:44:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:44:49 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: reply to CSS3 borders and backgrounds responses [1]
16:44:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-irc#T16-10-03
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: send two new documents on choosing/declaring character encodings to wide review [2]
16:44:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-irc#T16-16-59
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: navigate DST/Summer Time transition to keep call's time intact after DST change [3]
16:44:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-irc#T16-20-52
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: david: poll users for What Time is this Meeting At [4]
16:44:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-irc#T16-24-47
16:44:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: ask MSFT for information on IE12 respecting BOM over HTTP encoding change [5]
16:44:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/06-i18n-irc#T16-29-58