IRC log of webperf on 2014-03-05

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Zakim, this will be WPWG
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 05 March 2014
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present+ tobint
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present+ JatinderMann
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present+ Puneet
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zakim, this is per
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ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()3:00PM
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zakim, passcode?
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the conference code is 97373 (tel:+1.617.761.6200, plh
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present+ plh
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topic: Open Actions
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JatinderMann: Action item 73 looks like beacon - can we close
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close action-73
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Closed action-73.
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action-97 -- Tony Gentilcore to Check with Adam Barth on Memory Leak API -- due 2012-09-30 -- OPEN
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20:10:04 [tobint]
JatinderMann: Action Item 97. We've talked about this a number of times, but we likely should close this for now. We can come back to it later.
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plh: There are some security issues here for now. I agree we should close.
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close action-97
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Closed action-97.
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JatinderMann: This one keeps coming up. Should we close or open?
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plh: We should likely lean toward keeping them open if we are not sure. We can follow up with the owner.
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JatinderMann: You can switch between networks very rapidly (LTE, 3G, WiFi). You may check one network, but quickly end up on another network. Let's follow up with Alois.
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plh: I agree. Let's check with Alois.
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Puneet: Someone suggested that we should look at bytes transfered.
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plh: Bytes transfered can change from one moment to the next as well. Maybe people should use information in resource timings.
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JatinderMann: we talked about adding byte information to resource timing, but I don't think we've done that yet.
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JatinderMann: Regarding Action 104: Resource Timing 1 doesn't include information for audio or video elements because they come down in chunks.
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plh: Do we add XHR to resource timing? If so we should consider adding this.
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JatinderMann: We do.
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Jatinder: We should get this on the agenda at some point soon.
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JatinderMann: Action 106. This one is on plh.
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plh: I haven't done this yet.
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JatinderMann: Action-111 onward are from TPAC
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JatinderMann: Action-111:
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JatinderMann: We decided to not have a limit and wait for implimentation. We should probably keep this open so we know it's still an issue.
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plh: We could close the action and open an issue.
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JatinderMann: Let's document that. Close the action item and open an issue.
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plh: you can close the action item, I am looking at creating an issue.
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close action-111
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Closed action-111.
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JatinderMann: Action-112:
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JatinderMann: We should get it into a spec and get some more people looking at it for feedback.
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JatinderMann: Let's keep it open until ig gets it into a spec. Let's assign this one to Ilya
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JatinderMann: Action-113 should be done, but tobint will follow up to verify.
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tobint: will do.
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JatinderMann: Action-116.
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JatinderMann: We might want a security review on this one. Can we do detailed error logging securely.
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JatinderMann: Is there someone from w3c that we can loop in for a review?
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plh: I have a name but I need to double check.
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JatinderMann: Let's update the spec to do basic error logging and see if we can do detailed error logging later.
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JatinderMann: Action item 117
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JatinderMann: Let's leave this one open.
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JatinderMann: Action-118:
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JatinderMann: plh will ping Mark tomorrow
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plh: I'll do that tomorrow.
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JatinderMann: Action-119:
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JatdinerMann: This one is on tobin. We discussed this at TPAC.
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JatinderMann: Action-120, 121, 122: Sounds like JavaScript injection thing.
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JatinderMann: Let's ping Arvind on this. Tobin and I will follow up with Microsoft people.
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JatinderMann: Action-123: That's on Arvind. We should ping him on that.
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JatinderMann: Action-125: I think mark has already done this. We should take his proposal and update the spec.
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plh: Agree.
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JatinderMann: We should put this on tobin to get him to update the spec.
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JatinderMann: We might want a little more clarification. What does SDPY return today. Perhaps some examples of what we want.
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plh: I think we talked about this in the past.
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JatinderMann: Yes. We did. We will look into this and get back to the wg.
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JatinderMann: Action-126 still open - assign to tobin
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plh: Didn't we agree to drop postpone and go after lazyload.
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plh: I think that was what we discussed at TPAC
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JatinderMann: I think you're right. We should review TPAC notes to verify.
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JatinderMann: I think we said we should drop postpone for now and kill the CSS property.
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plh: We should update the action item title to match
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JatinderMann: We should open an action item to remove postpone from resource priorities.
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JatinderMann: That brings us up to date on TPAC. Will likely want to open more action items.
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close issue-8
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Closed issue-8.
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JatinderMann: We can likely close Issue-8
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plh: Agreed.
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plh: Close issue 10
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JatinderMann: Agreed
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close issue-10
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Closed issue-10.
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JatinderMann: Issue-11 should be closed
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close issue-11
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Closed issue-11.
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plh: agreed
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plh: Add DOM events with high res time to agenda for next week
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JatinderMann: we should do all of our work out of the action tracker:
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plh: Agreed.
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plh: requestanimationframe need test cases to move spec from CR to PR
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JatinderMann: We need to start a new push to get tests for these.
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JatinderMann: we should probably send out a mail.
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plh: Yes. Here is a link which is useful for us to help us track test needs:
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plh: Two of them are from Microsoft.
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JatinderMann: once we get the tests, I think this can get us moved forward
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Topic: Web Performance Guidance
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plh: We should put a template together to allow us to build web performance guidance.
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tobint: I'd love to help. I'm busy, as I'm sure others are, but am happy to help.
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JatinderMann: I think it would be cool. Today we solve a bunch of problems and our APIs try to help solve a lot of these perf-related issues.
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Attendees were [Microsoft], +1.408.349.aaaa, plh
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