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15:08:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub
15:08:44 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 52 minutes
15:08:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
15:08:45 <trackbot> Date: 03 March 2014
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15:58:23 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P0 is me
15:58:23 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it
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16:00:34 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
16:00:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see gcapiel, Tzviya, azaroth, philm, Ivan, +1.917.447.aabb, ??P14
16:00:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see benjaminsko, fjh, tzviya, philm, gcapiel, mgylling, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, tmichel, dauwhe, ivan, liam, astearns, plinss
16:00:43 <mgylling> zakim, ??P14 is me
16:00:43 <Zakim> +mgylling; got it
16:00:50 <Zakim> +dauwhe
16:00:56 <ivan> zakim, aabb is benjaminsko
16:00:56 <Zakim> +benjaminsko; got it
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16:02:32 <mgylling> regrets: Tom De Nies, Bill Kasdorf, Julie Morris
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16:03:28 <Zakim> +Liam
16:04:18 <Zakim> + +33.1.41.23.aacc
16:04:43 <ivan> zakim, aacc is Luc
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16:04:49 <ivan> zakim, pick a victim
16:04:49 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Tzviya
16:05:04 <Zakim> +Bert
16:05:04 <Zakim> + +1.303.475.aadd
16:05:09 <ivan> zakim, pick a victim
16:05:09 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose madi
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16:05:31 <mgylling> scribe: madi
16:05:32 <tmichel> zakim, ??P31 is me
16:05:32 <Zakim> +tmichel; got it
16:05:52 <madi> Madi is recognized as scribe
16:06:04 <ivan> zakim, aadd is casey
16:06:04 <Zakim> +casey; got it
16:06:14 <madi> We'll be picking up from last week's meeting of reports
16:06:23 <madi> Last week's meeting have been approved.
16:06:30 <tzviya> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Feb/0069.html
16:06:36 <madi> Latin Req continues
16:06:37 <Zakim> +Suzanne_Taylor
16:06:58 <tzviya> Latin Req http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/index.html
16:07:01 <madi> Examples of draft issues recently published.
16:07:31 <tzviya> s/draft/drop cap
16:07:46 <madi> Today, we'll figure out the logistics of publishing and next steps after the draft is out.
16:07:53 <madi> Identifying a common understanding
16:07:54 <Zakim> +Stearns
16:08:08 <mgylling> q?
16:08:30 <madi> Ivan commented on images that need fixing.
16:08:47 <madi> markus:   on to logistics
16:08:56 <madi>  Ivan: first drafts are registered with a short name
16:09:13 <madi> Ralph will be asked for a green light for Latin Req
16:09:35 <madi> \A date will have to be agreed on; Tuesday and Thursdays.  If agreed, send this to the webmaster.
16:10:06 <madi> In practice for first time, let's agree that the document is ready one week before the publishing date.  Thierry will place the document in its final place.
16:10:45 <madi> Editors will check details, links, etc.
16:11:32 <madi> If we can agree on March 13, we should have the document ready this Thurs or Friday.
16:11:46 <madi> Publishing on March 13 is acceptable.
16:12:15 <azaroth> And to Rob too please for the annotation doc
16:13:07 <madi> Identifying final editors
16:15:11 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules
16:15:17 <madi> Feedback welcome on the basic structure of the document
16:16:05 <madi> Document will be ready by Thursday.
16:16:20 <ivan> PROPOSED: publish latinreq on the 13
16:16:21 <madi> From Ralph, we'll need a resolve to publish Latin Req.
16:16:23 <liza> Hooray!
16:16:30 <ivan> RESOLVED:  publish latinreq on the 13
16:16:36 <madi> Markus: Any rejections?  No  Resolved.
16:16:37 <Luc> well done!
16:17:28 <madi> Since the Annotations draft to the Implementation COmmunity Group, received some feedback.
16:17:40 <mgylling> s/rejections/objections
16:17:48 <madi> May be some more use cases from the Community Group.
16:18:34 <madi> Annotations for Accessibility and Internationalisation added
16:19:03 <madi> Use case of annotating complete phrases rather than enumeration's added
16:19:16 <madi> Ivan:  this is very important.  Very clear use case.
16:19:38 <madi> After adding the two use cases, document would be ready to go.
16:20:03 <azaroth> http://www.openannotation.org/usecases.html
16:20:46 <azaroth> is the static version. The editor version is https://github.com/w3c/dpub-annotation
16:21:02 <ivan> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/
16:21:25 <madi> Markus:  Rob - the same timeline will be acceptable
16:21:34 <ivan> PROPOSED: publish ann use cases on the 13
16:21:35 <madi> First working draft of Use Cases - any objections?
16:21:38 <ivan> ...
16:21:41 <liza> Hooray x2
16:21:46 <Luc> +1
16:21:46 <tzviya> :)
16:21:46 <ivan> RESOLVED: publish ann use cases on the 13
16:21:53 <madi> Markus: Great!  Resolved.
16:22:09 <madi> Thierry will be doing work on both.
16:22:21 <madi> Markus:  moving on...
16:22:34 <Zakim> + +1.609.216.aaee
16:22:42 <madi> Agenda was too packed last week, so hereby extending the topic here
16:23:52 <madi> Tsyvia: Behavioural UI discussion:  1) creating something that enables a system to do something interesting
16:24:26 <madi> Tzviya: another we haven't gotten into, extending the ePub3 vocabulary to refine HTML to a books vocabulary
16:24:37 <madi> Possibly through an HTML extension
16:25:13 <madi> Tzviya:  further refinements for messaging
16:25:56 <madi> Markus:  Category on adaptational styles for dynamically manipulating CSS
16:26:18 <mgylling> q?
16:26:26 <madi> Tzviya:  a lot of ways to readers want to manipulate content.  Three players:  Readers, Systems, and the Author
16:26:39 <madi> Must make sure the reader is still manipulable.
16:27:13 <madi> Scratch that.  Readers are not manipulable.
16:27:40 <madi> Markus:  Multiple examples for dynamic manipulations with precision.
16:27:49 <madi> Tzviya:  Yes, like colors.
16:28:10 <madi> Markus:  Those are the 2 or 3 threads circulating.  You also mentioned that Use Cases are lacking
16:28:34 <madi> Tzviya:  Yes.  Short cut behaviour has not generated a lot of interest.  There might be more with the others.
16:28:52 <madi> Aria?
16:29:42 <madi> Tzviya: let's temporarily table the stage two, and get to structure and metadata with Aria (sp)
16:29:53 <madi> This is coming up with the eduPub group, so may work well.
16:29:59 <liza> ARIA is right
16:30:10 <madi> Markus:  CSS Style manipulation - anyone interested?
16:30:27 <madi> Markus: Anyone with more examples?
16:30:49 <madi> Markus: One of the most common complaints regarding content in reading systems.
16:31:03 <ivan> q+
16:31:15 <madi> Markus:  Would be great to find to advocate a solution on this
16:31:29 <madi> CSS manipulation?
16:31:43 <madi> Suzanne: Happy to contribute.
16:33:08 <madi> Markus: to Tzviya ok to table the CSS stuff and continue to gain use cases to flesh out
16:33:30 <liza> Ahem
16:33:38 <madi> Markus:  reading system developers are in the group: Google, Apple.  They might provide guidance.
16:33:45 <ivan> q-
16:33:52 <liam>  /me q-
16:33:56 <madi> Madi notes:Safari
16:34:06 <liza> Hooray!
16:35:05 <madi> Does anyone know of any Service providers that have documented declarative extension of HTML5?
16:35:06 <Luc> q+
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16:35:24 <mgylling> ack luc
16:35:25 <madi> Need to understand what kind of extensions are available.
16:36:35 <madi> Tzviya: ARIA example
16:37:56 <madi> Markus to Tzviya: plan for the short term agreed
16:37:58 <mgylling> q?
16:38:06 <madi> Any questions regarding behaviour?
16:38:12 <madi> No questions
16:38:20 <madi> Next in line is Jean K
16:38:53 <madi> In the absence of Jean, anything we can do with STEM...
16:39:02 <madi> Table this for next week?
16:39:05 <ivan> q+
16:39:08 <madi> No objections.
16:39:17 <madi> AOB?
16:39:44 <madi> 2 documents that are planned for publication.  Short name request.  Please agree on short names that were proposed.
16:39:56 <madi> for Annotations...will paste in IRC...
16:39:56 <tmichel> dpub-annotation-uc/
16:40:12 <azaroth> q+
16:40:20 <ivan> q- later
16:40:31 <azaroth> q-
16:40:37 <madi> Markus:  shouldn't reserve Annotation just to us, there are others.
16:40:38 <tzviya> dpub-anno-uc?
16:40:42 <mgylling> q?
16:40:57 <madi> Ivan: keeping the dpub is good
16:41:06 <madi> Any objections to the short name for annotation?
16:41:08 <madi> Resolved.
16:41:12 <tmichel> dpub-pagination/
16:41:12 <tmichel>      or  dpub-latinreq/
16:41:24 <azaroth> dpub-latinreq-uc ?
16:41:37 <azaroth> okay :)
16:41:38 <madi> LatinReq is preferred
16:42:12 <madi> latinereq - any objections?
16:42:23 <madi> correction: latinreq
16:42:41 <liza> dpub-latinreq
16:42:55 <madi> yes, dpub-latinreq
16:43:25 <madi> IVan: summer hours changing in Europe
16:43:46 <liza> Technically, US changes
16:43:54 <liza> but US meeting time does NOT change
16:43:56 <madi> This weekend the times change in the US, not EUR
16:44:17 <madi> Markus: Anything else?
16:44:27 <madi> Markus:  Thank you all.
16:44:32 <Zakim> -Vlad
16:44:34 <Zakim> -Suzanne_Taylor
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16:44:48 <tmichel> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:44:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/03-dpub-minutes.html tmichel
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16:51:14 <Zakim> -tmichel
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