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11:14:58 darobin: where for art thou?
11:16:01 Why is darobin? Well his parents loved each other very much. And when two people love each other very much…
11:19:20 hmpf?
11:23:58 darobin: bad bear wondering about Remove at risk features from CR HTML5 spec bug
11:24:18 there is some stuff on that list that is implemented
11:24:34 color for example chrome and firefox
11:24:47 SteveF: I think the idea behind opening that bug was precisely to ferret out what shouldn't be on the list anymore
11:25:10 darobin: ok will go back to sleep then
11:25:14 heh
11:26:35 ;-)
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15:49:16 13syntax/06master 140bc936f 15Michael[tm] Smith: Exit the meta@name maintenance business.
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16:59:15 trackbot, start meeting
16:59:17 RRSAgent, make logs public
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16:59:19 Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:59:19 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
16:59:20 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:20 Date: 27 February 2014
16:59:44 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
16:59:51 +Sam
17:00:05 +[Microsoft]
17:00:07 Zakim, Microsoft has me
17:00:07 +Eliot; got it
17:00:55 +[Microsoft.a]
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17:01:39 zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
17:01:39 +krisk; got it
17:01:49 Zakim, [Microsoft.a] is krisk
17:01:49 sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft.a]'
17:01:59 Zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
17:01:59 sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft.a'
17:02:05 Zakim, who is on the phone
17:02:05 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', krisk
17:02:12 Zakim, who is on the Phone?
17:02:12 On the phone I see Sam, [Microsoft], krisk
17:02:14 [Microsoft] has Eliot
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17:03:03 RRAAgent, make logs public
17:03:09 RRSAgent, make logs public
17:03:17 zakim, what is the code?
17:03:17 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:03:34 +Plh
17:03:46 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:04:01 +[Microsoft.a]
17:04:09 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0017.html
17:04:14 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
17:04:14 +paulc; got it
17:04:32 Date: 27 February 2014
17:04:40 Chair: rubys
17:04:44 Scribe: krisk
17:05:02 +??P4
17:05:08 TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, February 27
17:05:17 rubys: none
17:05:26 TOPIC: Last Calls
17:05:31 +glenn
17:05:38 SUBTOPIC: Polyglot Markup: A robust profile of the HTML5 vocabulary Last Call
17:06:01 rubys: we have one bug that really shoudl have been multiple
17:06:05 rubys: see http://tinyurl.com/pzo933q
17:06:23 Eliot: working on the bug -editoria
17:06:35 SUBTOPIC: W3C DOM4: Last Call ends 04 March 2014
17:06:52 rubys: no bugs http://tinyurl.com/q6ea7mn
17:06:59 A11y TF has yet to ask for an extension
17:07:10 glenn: How many issues/bugs?
17:07:24 rubys: I don't expect much
17:07:44 paulc: robin indicated we have tests for most as well
17:07:59 glenn: It would be good to bring CSS OM into this doc
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17:08:32 plh: It's my understanding lots of work would be needed to bring this into the DOM4 spec
17:09:02 plh: We have recharted the working group which woudl take alot of time to change the charted to include this work
17:09:10 plh: CSS is also rechartering right now
17:09:36 glenn: It's odd because it's JS api's in the CSS working group which doesn't get alot of attention
17:09:44 paulc: I suggest you raise this on public html
17:09:51 glenn: sounds great, will do
17:10:02 TOPIC: CR Progress
17:10:12 SUBTOPIC: Canvas2D:
17:10:18 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0052.html
17:11:02 janina: Expect some hit testing is needed, Firefox has it in a nighly and a test page exists
17:11:26 janina: We have not heard back from google, a date to match Firefox
17:11:46 janina: which would let us meet the min requirements for getting this in the L1 spec
17:12:11 janina: Basically by have two implementation and getting the spec correctly written which will take time
17:12:20 rubys: The time is weeks to get this done?
17:12:27 janina: yes
17:12:41 rubys: any other comments?
17:12:47 SUBTOPIC: HTML5.0
17:13:03 rubys: we are down to 6 plus 1 bugs (http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq)
17:13:23 Robin and Steve are going to get down with their bugs by March 15th
17:13:30 Alt issues, Steve Faulkner:
17:13:36 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23059
17:13:45 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24182
17:14:10 https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References
17:14:14 glenn: How are we going to get normative parts of the WhatWG spec?
17:14:24 ..added to the w3c version?
17:14:38 glenn: For example url parsing
17:14:54 plh: robin has a page
17:15:15 plh: It sounds like a bug, please open one or more if needed
17:15:21 glenn: what about encoding?
17:15:29 plh: This was very recent
17:15:35 glenn: What about xml parsing?
17:15:40 plh: It's a bug
17:15:58 glenn: Sounds like you are working on this plh so I trust it's in good hands
17:16:04 s/xml parsing/xml http request/
17:16:27 rubys: Hoping to hear back from hober
17:16:37 ..on Caseless matching (Ted O'Connor)
17:17:15 rubys: We'll review and remove at risk features after the F2F
17:17:30 plh: Area and Aria won't be at risk
17:17:48 see -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812
17:18:12 plh: We will be talking with IETF about url parsing next week in london
17:18:19 TOPIC: Task Force Reports
17:18:30 SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
17:18:53 I don't have much to report but will send out some info about DOM4/request
17:19:04 plh: some more pull requests have been made
17:19:13 plh: so we are going in the right direction
17:20:32 krisk: I looked at some that appear old, but they were waiting for an update from the submitter
17:20:51 krisk: I also will take a peek at all the tests looking for any brokeness
17:21:04 SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
17:21:53 janian: We want to skip CR and go to PR before the F2Ffor long desc
17:22:03 janina: since we have implementation
17:22:20 janina: We looked a DOM4 and don't have issues
17:22:33 s/janian/janina/
17:22:53 janina: This is because DOM mutation events have been added which is a boom for accessibility
17:23:23 janina: I'll send this formally later
17:23:53 janina: We do have some editorial comments, but these are not accessibility conserns
17:24:16 rubys: Will these come in as comments of bug reports?
17:24:30 janina: comments and not bugs
17:24:55 q+ to mention the testing dashboard
17:24:58 rubys: Bugs please for these comments on the DOM4 spec
17:25:04 ack plh
17:25:04 plh, you wanted to mention the testing dashboard
17:25:09 http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#wg-html
17:25:22 http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#html
17:25:57 krisk: That is nice, I was using github links https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues?labels=2dcontext
17:26:28 paulc: Can I ask plh a question on these pages?
17:26:42 paulc: Is this for HTML or others?
17:27:06 plh: Others as well just change the drop down and the first one will list all pull requests
17:27:29 paulc: The most look on HTML, is this correct?
17:27:37 plh: Yes about 100 total and 50 on HTML
17:27:43 paulc: This is useful
17:27:51 SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force
17:28:01 EME agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Feb/0012.html
17:28:27 paulc: On EME the task force is dealing with hard bugs (~20 bugs) and once we fix one another new hard bug comes up
17:28:53 paulc: We are going to meet more often to make faster progress
17:28:53 Canvas a11y support in Firefox nightly thread begins at:
17:28:54 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0074.html
17:29:19 http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#media-source
17:29:33 paulc: For MSE we should see some tests submitted soon if not already
17:29:47 paulc: TF has been mostly focused has been on EME
17:30:12 paulc: It's not clear if Media TF will ask for time at the F2F
17:30:34 plh: A few have registered already from the Media TF
17:30:58 plh: one pull request does exist for MSE
17:31:15 plh: Who is working on these tests?
17:31:37 paulc: I can't recall
17:31:45 TOPIC: Other Business
17:31:55 F2F Agenda
17:32:04 please updated the wiki if needed see https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics
17:32:23 rubys: As normal we'll refine at the start of the F2F
17:32:31 rubys: any, other, other business?
17:32:44 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Feb/0084.html
17:32:56 plh: Art asked a question http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0018.html
17:33:28 rubys: The topic was about heartbeat hell for EME
17:33:55 paulc: The chairs should choose and report back on how we want to deal with this request
17:34:07 rubys: any other business?
17:34:14 I can scribe
17:34:21 regrets from me
17:35:06 rubys: let's adjourn
17:35:09 -paulc
17:35:11 -Plh
17:35:12 -??P4
17:35:12 -glenn
17:35:13 -Sam
17:35:13 -[Microsoft]
17:35:19 rrsagent, generate minutes
17:35:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/27-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
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18:17:38 Attendees were Sam, Eliot, [Microsoft], krisk, Plh, paulc, glenn
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