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17:01:15 Zakim, this will be html_wg
17:01:16 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:01:16 Date: 20 February 2014
17:01:17 ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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17:01:38 zakim, who's on the phone?
17:01:38 On the phone I see [Microsoft.a]
17:01:39 trackbot, start meeting
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17:01:43 Zakim, this will be html_wg
17:01:44 ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
17:01:44 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:01:44 Date: 20 February 2014
17:01:52 zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
17:01:52 +krisk; got it
17:01:52 zakim, what is the code?
17:01:53 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:01:58 +[Microsoft]
17:01:59 +??P6
17:02:01 Zakim, Microsoft has me
17:02:01 +Eliot; got it
17:02:05 zakim, ??P6 is me
17:02:05 +janina; got it
17:02:15 +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:18 zakim, microsoft.a has me
17:02:18 +jaymunro; got it
17:02:21 +[Microsoft.aa]
17:02:27 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0014.html
17:02:27 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
17:02:27 +paulc; got it
17:02:34 Chair: paulc
17:02:39 scribe: krisk
17:02:43 -[Microsoft.aa]
17:03:01 +[Microsoft.a]
17:03:08 zakim, microsoft.a has me
17:03:08 +jaymunro; got it
17:03:35 +??P7
17:03:51 rrsagent, who is on the phone?
17:03:51 I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'who is on the phone'
17:04:05 rssagent, who is on the phone?
17:04:16 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:04:16 On the phone I see krisk, [Microsoft], janina, paulc, [Microsoft.a], ??P7
17:04:18 [Microsoft] has Eliot
17:04:18 paulc has jaymunro
17:04:18 [Microsoft.a] has jaymunro
17:05:34 paulc: who is ??P7
17:05:50 zakim, ??P7 is Paul_Rogers
17:05:50 +Paul_Rogers; got it
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17:06:57 *helo
17:07:07 TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, February 20
17:07:10 paulc: none
17:07:17 TOPIC: Publications this week
17:07:18 +Plh
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17:07:30 EME Heartbeat published
17:07:34 http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3670
17:07:39 see-> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3670
17:08:01 paulc: lots of discussion, but document has been published and media task force is working on closing bugs
17:08:08 TOPIC: Last Calls closing next week
17:08:25 Polyglot Markup: A robust profile of the HTML5 vocabulary Last Call ends Feb 25
17:08:30 paulc: not alot of comments
17:08:43 paulc: we took this back to last call to get more comments, prior to CR
17:09:19 See-> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3670
17:09:39 paulc: Note DOM4 last call is March 4th
17:09:44 http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-dom-20140204/
17:10:11 plh: I want to make sure that people look at the document
17:10:23 DOM4 LC open bugs: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=DOM4&list_id=32864&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced
17:10:40 ..specifically part that have not been implemented and what items could be at risk due to no implementations
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17:12:51 *I'm back...
17:13:05 Original chairs@w3.org announcement of DOM4 LC: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2014JanMar/0067.html
17:13:29 +??P10
17:13:30 janina: We are looking at DOM4 and the date seems tight given the canvas work
17:13:39 zakim, ??p10 is tantek
17:13:39 +tantek; got it
17:13:47 zakim, mute tantek
17:13:48 tantek should now be muted
17:14:05 paulc: I suggest you respond back to the mail thread above and register a request for an extension for the DOM4 LC event
17:14:21 TOPIC: Outstanding CR bugs
17:14:41 paulc: see http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq
17:14:50 paulc: We have 10 bugs total
17:14:59 * HI!
17:15:25 paulc: The first three bugs are time zone issues that travil is working on and should be fixed this week
17:15:29 See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Feb/0035.html
17:15:31 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16957
17:15:32 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16959
17:15:36 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16960
17:15:50 paulc: The others I don't have data on status for
17:16:13 paulc: Revert deletion of table@border, Robin and editorial team
17:16:28 paulc: The chairs are not going to get to this item until next week
17:16:28 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24705
17:16:49 paulc: I have asked the editor team to deal with this as a high pri
17:16:56 see -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24705
17:17:20 paulc: So we should expect movement on this item for next week
17:17:30 paulc: One other bug I think needs to be treated as a CR bug
17:17:38 Re-add the media attribute to the specification
17:18:01 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24731
17:18:01 paulc: This also is a revert request
17:18:31 paulc: I hope that this one also become as CR request
17:18:56 paulc: 3 should close, 2 revert requests which the chairs will drive to close for the next meeting
17:19:05 TOPIC: HTML WG F2F meeting, San Jose, Apr 8-9
17:19:16 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda
17:19:18 paulc: Please add agenda items
17:19:46 paulc: Potential topics - open CR bugs, HTML5 at risk features, extension spec status
17:20:01 zakim, who is here?
17:20:01 On the phone I see krisk, [Microsoft], janina, paulc, [Microsoft.a], Paul_Rogers, Plh, tantek (muted)
17:20:03 [Microsoft] has Eliot
17:20:03 paulc has jaymunro
17:20:03 [Microsoft.a] has jaymunro
17:20:03 On IRC I see krisk, karl, tantek, pladd, paulc, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, jaymunro, Eliot, lgombos, glenn, plh, Lachy, krijnhoetmer, SteveF, heath, hober, paul___irish, Josh_Soref,
17:20:04 ... pdr_, tobie__, timeless, anssik, mattur, tH, jgraham, cabanier_
17:20:08 paulc: Some may get closed prior which is fine but this is just a start
17:20:29 paulc: I'm asking TFs if they have items they would like to discuss as well
17:20:46 janina: I'll know more next week
17:20:54 q+
17:21:08 ack plh
17:21:21 paulc: We will run the meeting like normal - unconferenced style where we will spend the first 30-45 minutes building the agenda for the F2F
17:21:38 plh: I'd like to discuss the testing status report
17:22:16 plh: When an item is listed as 'Needs Testing' it was marked last April as needing testing.
17:22:30 plh: So this should be reviewed again at the meeting
17:23:11 See -> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit/
17:23:37 SUBTOPIC: F2F registration
17:23:39 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Feb/0063.html
17:24:01 paulc: Please register so that the event can be planned properly (food, room size, etc)
17:24:16 paulc: Registration closed on March 28th
17:24:25 TOPIC: Other Business
17:24:26 zakim, unmute tantek
17:24:26 tantek should no longer be muted
17:24:33 Canvas Last Call and Canvas L2 heartbeat
17:24:36 q+
17:24:40 see -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0001.html
17:24:54 paulc: Alot of discussion occured this morning
17:25:02 paulc: Do you have minutes?
17:25:06 Canvas options for TF email list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0052.html
17:25:51 TF minutes: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-html-a11y-minutes.html
17:26:05 janina: Can you summerize?
17:26:34 janina: We had agreement for min accessibility for 502 requirements
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17:28:25 Moz added hit testing in about a week
17:29:01 janina: Ally is going to make a recommendation by next week for the L1 Canvas spec
17:29:05 zakim, mute tantek
17:29:05 tantek should now be muted
17:29:23 paulc: I think this is due to the 502 regulatory tension for the document
17:29:34 I found this one: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards
17:29:40 q+
17:29:41 I found this one: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards
17:29:46 paulc: janina can you send the 502 references at least on the Ally TF list?
17:29:48 zakim, unmute tantek
17:29:48 tantek should no longer be muted
17:30:13 ack tantek
17:30:16 tantek: For the F2F should we just add items to the wiki?
17:30:33 paulc: Just add them no need for a discussion to be added
17:31:11 tantek: I have some conserns about timezone issues/bugs which would seem like a good topic to discuss
17:31:30 paulc: Great add them and feel free to add bugs, links to the lists, etc
17:31:49 paulc: tantek please review the bugs that travil is looking and provide feedback
17:31:56 ack plh
17:31:59 zakim, mute tantek
17:31:59 tantek should now be muted
17:32:07 plh: I was looking at the minutes of the ally meeting
17:32:28 plh: The charter that was quoted is the old version and the new one needs to be cited
17:32:33 http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
17:32:58 paulc: I'll respond back to the meeting notes to have this corrected
17:34:05 paulc: any other items to discuss?
17:34:11 paulc: I hear none
17:34:21 paulc: chair next week is rubys
17:34:27 I can scribe next week
17:34:36 paulc: meeting adjourned
17:34:50 -[Microsoft]
17:34:52 -Paul_Rogers
17:34:52 -janina
17:34:52 -Plh
17:34:58 -tantek
17:35:03 -[Microsoft.a]
17:35:06 -paulc
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17:36:04 rrsagent, generate minutes
17:36:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-html-wg-minutes.html krisk_
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