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15:43:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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15:43:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
15:43:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
15:43:41 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:43:41 <trackbot> Date: 19 February 2014
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15:53:39 <Guus>    trackbot, start meeting
15:53:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:53:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
15:53:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
15:53:44 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:53:44 <trackbot> Date: 19 February 2014
15:54:46 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has now started
15:54:54 <Zakim> +Guus_Schreiber
15:55:06 <Guus> chair: Guus
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15:56:58 <Zakim> +??P8
15:57:12 <pchampin> zakim, ??P8 is me
15:57:13 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
15:57:36 <Zakim> +EricP
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15:58:24 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
15:58:24 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:58:26 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:59:29 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:59:31 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:59:34 <Zakim> +GavinC
15:59:35 <AndyS> bad zakim
16:00:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:00:16 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
16:00:16 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
16:00:21 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
16:00:22 <gavinc> and the patent infringment cases will be trival too!
16:01:41 <gkellogg> gkellogg has joined #rdf-wg
16:01:48 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
16:02:00 <AndyS> scribe: Andy Seaborne
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16:02:14 <TallTed> Zakim: who's here?
16:02:33 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, pchampin, EricP, Ivan, GavinC, AndyS, OpenLink_Software
16:02:39 <Zakim> +??P25
16:02:44 <gkellogg> zakim, I am ??P25
16:02:44 <Zakim> +gkellogg; got it
16:02:51 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
16:02:51 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
16:02:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:03:00 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
16:03:00 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
16:03:02 <Zakim> +Tom_Baker (was [IPcaller])
16:03:26 <Zakim> +Sandro
16:03:37 <tbaker> zakim, Tom_Baker is tbaker
16:03:37 <Zakim> +tbaker; got it
16:03:43 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: RDF WG - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ - next Agenda will be at http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.19
16:03:56 <Guus> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon:
16:04:40 <AndyS> RESOLVED to accept the minutes of the 12 Feb telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2014-02-12
16:04:54 <AndyS> topic: Action items
16:05:15 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF WG - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ - final(!) Agenda is at http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.19
16:05:20 <AndyS> ACTION-98?
16:05:21 <trackbot> ACTION-98 -- Sandro Hawke to Rdf: and rdfs: namespace should resolve to something that meets best practices -- due 2011-12-31 -- OPEN
16:05:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/98
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16:06:41 <Zakim> +??P28
16:06:47 <yvesr> Zakim, ??P28 is me
16:06:47 <Zakim> +yvesr; got it
16:07:08 <Zakim> +??P29
16:07:10 <markus> zakim, ??P29 is me
16:07:10 <Zakim> +markus; got it
16:07:17 <AndyS> Just one action open!
16:07:34 <AndyS> Topic: REC drafts
16:07:44 <AndyS> Guus: Now in REC space.
16:07:48 <ivan> zakim, unmute me
16:07:48 <Zakim> Ivan was not muted, ivan
16:07:50 <AndyS> ... can fix if necessary
16:07:59 <AndyS> ... needs team involvement
16:08:26 <AndyS> ... inc Turtle grammar fix and Turtle reference
16:08:44 <AndyS> Ivan: Director request sent this morning.
16:09:04 <Zakim> +PatH
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16:09:53 <AndyS> guus: Process on track.
16:10:14 <PatH> Apologies for being late.
16:10:29 <AndyS> ACTION Guus: Write a draft blog entry for REC
16:10:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-348 - Write a draft blog entry for rec [on Guus Schreiber - due 2014-02-26].
16:10:54 <AndyS> Guus: Hope to write Monday
16:11:00 <AndyS> topic: WG Notes
16:11:14 <AndyS> Guus: Some editorial work on primer.
16:11:22 <AndyS> ... Sandro's comments done.
16:11:37 <AndyS> ... Markus sent comments (on comments)
16:12:09 <AndyS> ... one major editorial change ... subsections of each syntax in section 5.
16:12:21 <gavinc> mmm "Turtle family of RDF languages"
16:12:38 <yvesr> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html
16:12:54 <gavinc> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax
16:12:58 <AndyS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#section-graph-syntax
16:14:03 <tbaker> q+ to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...
16:14:19 <tbaker> zakim, unmute me
16:14:19 <Zakim> tbaker should no longer be muted
16:14:21 <Guus> ack tbaker
16:14:21 <Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to say that N-Triples refers to itself as a syntax, not a language...
16:14:29 <gavinc> +q
16:14:50 <AndyS> tbaker: "languages" vs "syntaxes"
16:15:16 <AndyS> Guus: hasn't been raised before
16:15:24 <tbaker> +1
16:15:43 <tbaker> zakim, please mute me
16:15:43 <Zakim> tbaker should now be muted
16:15:50 <AndyS> gavinc: primer reverses NT / TTL from the spec docs.
16:16:21 <AndyS> ... where NT is described as a subset of TTL
16:16:30 <Zakim> -EricP
16:16:52 <AndyS> guus: Going from simple to complicated, starting with triples.
16:17:30 <Zakim> +EricP
16:18:15 <AndyS> guus: will tell WG when stable
16:18:59 <AndyS> subtopic: datasets note
16:19:42 <AndyS> guus: less comments/review ... ask volunteers for help with editorial revisions
16:19:51 <AndyS> ... (pause) ...
16:20:08 <PatH> puff..puff..
16:21:31 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
16:21:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, pchampin, Ivan, GavinC, AndyS, TallTed (muted), gkellogg, tbaker (muted), Sandro, yvesr, markus, PatH, EricP
16:21:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatH, markus, TallTed, tbaker, gkellogg, gavinc, pchampin, Guus, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, AndyS, davidwood, yvesr, manu, sandro, ericP, trackbot
16:22:07 <AndyS> gavinc: The example syntax is different to anything else ... not am RDF syntax.
16:24:04 <Zakim> restarting zakim-bot in 3 minutes to recover bridge state; please save your agendas
16:25:11 <AndyS> guus: make those comments and/or make the changes directly.
16:25:22 <AndyS> ... still need volunteers.
16:26:51 <PatH> How urgently must this be done? I can do it but not until the weekend.
16:27:37 <Zakim> zakim-bot restarting
16:29:33 <AndyS> topic: testcases
16:30:20 <AndyS> gregg: fixes for errors for bad references (needs Sandro's help)
16:30:34 <AndyS> ... missing NS document.  NS doc created.
16:31:29 <AndyS> sandro: would be nice to get review
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16:32:20 <gkellogg> http://www.w3.org/2013/RDFXMLTests/
16:32:20 <AZ> is it over?
16:32:30 <pfps> pfps has joined #rdf-wg
16:32:49 <gkellogg> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default//rdf-xml/tests
16:33:41 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2013/N-QuadsTests/
16:34:51 <AndyS> gregg: Shall we ref the 2004 test suite (RDF/XML)?
16:35:02 <gkellogg> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-testcases/
16:35:55 <gkellogg> 2000 test cases: http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/
16:36:05 <AndyS> guus: Reminded that redirection box needs to go on test cases as well.
16:41:09 <AndyS> topic: Namespace documents
16:41:21 <AndyS> sandro: Under control
16:41:32 <AndyS> guus: take to email
16:41:52 <pfps> time to declare victory?
16:41:55 <AndyS> sandro: Will have future maintenance .
16:42:00 <AndyS> topic: The End
16:42:08 <ericP> many thanks to Guus!
16:42:13 <ericP> chair for life
16:42:16 <yvesr> :)
16:42:17 <pfps> so we have succeeded - 42
16:42:20 <AndyS> Guus: Thank you everyone.
16:42:23 <PatH> Three cheers to our chairs!!
16:42:35 <tbaker> thank you Guus!
16:42:38 <PatH> Byeeee
16:42:47 <gavinc> bye bye!
16:43:03 <ericP> guus says he'll chair validation, right?
16:43:20 <yvesr> bye :)
16:43:28 <AndyS> ADJOURNED
16:43:53 <Guus> trackbot, end meeting
16:43:53 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:43:53 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:44:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:44:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
16:44:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:44:02 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
16:44:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to Write a draft blog entry for REC [1]
16:44:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-rdf-wg-irc#T16-10-29