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16:36:55 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
16:37:04 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Any new issues and  introductions
16:37:16 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Review of user goals
16:37:24 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Table of content for gap analysis
16:37:50 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Next steps and setting time
16:37:56 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Table of content for roadmap
16:40:02 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Liddy Nevile, Deborah Dahl,Mary Jo Mueller,Kinshuk
16:53:09 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
16:53:15 <Zakim> +??P0
16:54:08 <janina> zakim, code?
16:54:08 <Zakim> the conference code is 2642 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), janina
16:54:32 <Zakim> +??P1
16:54:39 <janina> zakim, ??P1 is me
16:54:39 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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16:55:44 <Zakim> +Jim_Allan
16:56:15 <Zakim> +Barry_Johnson
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16:57:46 <Zakim> +??P6
16:59:24 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:59:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, janina, Jim_Allan, Barry_Johnson, ??P6
16:59:26 <allanj> scribe: allanj
16:59:46 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P1 is me
16:59:46 <Zakim> I already had ??P1 as janina, Lisa_Seeman
16:59:53 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P0 is me
16:59:53 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
17:00:13 <Lisa_Seeman> who just joined the call
17:00:15 <allanj> zakim, agenda?
17:00:15 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
17:00:16 <Zakim> 1. Any new issues and  introductions [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:00:16 <Zakim> 2. Review of user goals [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:00:16 <Zakim> 3. Table of content for gap analysis [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:00:16 <Zakim> 4. Next steps and setting time [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:00:16 <Zakim> 5. Table of content for roadmap [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:00:26 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
17:00:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, janina, Jim_Allan, Barry_Johnson, ??P6
17:00:37 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P6 is Katie
17:00:37 <Zakim> +Katie; got it
17:00:52 <Zakim> + +1.804.749.aaaa
17:01:08 <allanj> zakim, aaaa is Debra Ruh
17:01:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa is Debra Ruh', allanj
17:01:45 <allanj> zakim, aaaa is really DebraRuh
17:01:45 <Zakim> +DebraRuh; got it
17:02:17 <Zakim> +Joseph_O´Conno
17:02:19 <allanj> zakim, open item 1
17:02:19 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Any new issues and  introductions" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:02:43 <BarryJohnson> Are there instructions somewhere about how to be a scripe?
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17:04:25 <allanj> zakim, open item 2
17:04:25 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review of user goals" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:04:27 <Zakim> +Neil_Milliken
17:04:30 <Zakim> +Suzanne_Taylor
17:04:50 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
17:04:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, janina, Jim_Allan, Barry_Johnson, Katie, DebraRuh, Joseph_O´Conno, Neil_Milliken, Suzanne_Taylor
17:04:52 <st> st has joined #coga
17:05:00 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
17:05:14 <Zakim> +Michel_Fitos
17:05:18 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Feb/0032.html
17:05:30 <allanj> ls: hope to set a schedule for goals
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17:05:51 <BarryJohnson> *allenj - thanks
17:06:11 <Zakim> +??P20
17:06:30 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
17:06:32 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
17:06:47 <allanj> ls: reviews email
17:08:34 <allanj> ... user questions, applications, critical information, ict systems, etc.
17:09:15 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:09:27 <allanj> ls: any comments
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17:09:37 <allanj> jr: like the broadness.
17:10:07 <allanj> ... when talking with folks, a large problem was communicating with loved ones.
17:10:32 <allanj> jf: under applications. web apps in general or a specific application?
17:10:56 <NeilMilliken> I think it could be either
17:11:28 <allanj> jf: specific application or more broad?
17:11:35 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:11:57 <allanj> ls: both, people get frustrated with both
17:12:47 <allanj> ... last week...looking at tasks, with user scenarios...want broad strokes.
17:13:04 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:13:46 <allanj> janina: W3 is web technology. desktop may be out of scope. mobile apps may be in scope (if web backend)
17:14:00 <allanj> ??: what about internet of things
17:14:20 <allanj> janina: it is the web, ipv6
17:15:51 <allanj> ls: create action, add examples to wiki
17:16:00 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Lisa_Seeman update goals
17:16:16 <allanj> zakim, open item 2
17:16:16 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review of user goals" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:16:26 <allanj> zakim, open item 3
17:16:26 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Table of content for gap analysis" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:16:28 <NeilMilliken> I am happy with the goals
17:16:41 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
17:16:56 <JohnRochford> I too am pleased with the goals
17:17:11 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
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17:18:49 <allanj> ls: review Gap TOC
17:20:44 <allanj> ls: Section 3 (brainstorming) collect ideas - don't want to lose them
17:22:07 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:22:13 <allanj> ls: are people comfortable with sections?
17:22:15 <JohnRochford> I am confortable with the sections
17:22:25 <NeilMilliken> Yes I am comfortable
17:22:42 <allanj> ls: worked on these in China, they are open to change.
17:23:05 <allanj> ls: now is good time to speak...
17:23:15 <allanj> SILENCE
17:23:33 <allanj> zakim, open item 4
17:23:33 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Next steps and setting time" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:23:47 <allanj> ls: setting schedules.
17:23:49 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/userTemplate
17:24:55 <NeilMilliken> II should be able o get some user scenarios up by end of this week
17:26:33 <allanj> ls: want reasonable about of time needed to complete an area
17:26:42 <NeilMilliken> I have less to put up than most :-)
17:26:57 <NeilMilliken> dyscalculia has less info
17:27:14 <allanj> ls: perhaps 6 weeks
17:27:32 <allanj> dr: don't know what is reasonable
17:27:52 <allanj> ls: at least a draft
17:28:19 <allanj> ls: want people to build a section and present to group
17:28:45 <allanj> ... so 6 weeks and a month later have a second draft
17:28:56 <NeilMilliken> q+
17:29:15 <JF> Q+
17:30:02 <allanj> jr: sounds ok, getting started is important
17:30:27 <allanj> nm: can use my stuff as an example
17:30:59 <allanj> jf: +1, some of the ideas
17:31:34 <josephoconnor> Non-vocal encompasses a wide range of developmental and situational etiologies, which do no always intersect with intellectual disabilities. I'll have to narrow the focus to get anything done at all.
17:31:35 <allanj> ... next 6 weeks should not be a vacuum, get feedback through out the time
17:32:06 <allanj> jf: gaps...write what you know, then we will fill in what's missing
17:32:23 <allanj> ls: if you know something is missing add that also
17:32:45 <allanj> ls: add agenda request for help for next week
17:33:24 <allanj> jr: looked at orgs working on cog a11y. have a list, willing to post.
17:33:30 <JohnRochford> http://www.clearhelper.org/Resources/CWA/Promoters/
17:33:32 <allanj> ls: add to wiki page also
17:34:25 <BarryJohnson> Yes. That soyunds good
17:34:32 <BarryJohnson> *sounds
17:34:34 <josephoconnor> 6 weeks is good for now.
17:34:39 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:34:55 <Lisa_Seeman> ack neil
17:35:01 <Lisa_Seeman> ack JF
17:35:02 <BarryJohnson> I think we need a target to start with.
17:35:02 <JF> ack JF
17:35:07 <allanj> resolution: 6 weeks timeline for completing Gap Analysis
17:35:16 <JF> Q?
17:35:25 <BarryJohnson> +1 to JF - Don't be afraid to start
17:36:09 <Michel> +Q
17:36:20 <allanj> ls: if anyone is not doing a user group, or want to do other research (i.e. executive function, specific technology, etc.)
17:37:06 <allanj> dr: ADHD and executive function are closely related. though EF deficits show up elsewhere
17:37:09 <Michel> -q
17:37:42 <Zakim> -DebraRuh
17:37:44 <allanj> s/dr: ADHD/michel: ADHD
17:38:17 <JF> zakim, who is noisy
17:38:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is noisy', JF
17:38:28 <allanj> ls: michel do you want to take executive function and run with it.
17:38:45 <allanj> michel: sure, I will do that
17:39:15 <allanj> ls: anyone want to look at specifications
17:40:06 <allanj> rs: specifications for which technologies?
17:40:28 <allanj> ls: FLUID, emotion markup, etc
17:40:50 <allanj> rs: will take specifications (FLUID etc)
17:41:26 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:41:51 <josephoconnor> I will be at CSUN.
17:41:56 <NeilMilliken> I wish I was attending
17:41:57 <allanj> rs: CSUN will have COGA panel discussion
17:42:05 <Lisa_Seeman> I will be there
17:42:14 <NeilMilliken> send me details just in case I can
17:42:15 <allanj> ja: I will be there
17:42:20 <BarryJohnson> If we could get an idea of when & where
17:42:38 <richardschwerdtfeger> Cognitive Accessibility Task Force March 21, 2014 Seapart A - IBM 2nd floor
17:42:50 <allanj> zakim, agenda?
17:42:50 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
17:42:51 <Zakim> 1. Any new issues and  introductions [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:42:51 <Zakim> 2. Review of user goals [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:42:51 <Zakim> 3. Table of content for gap analysis [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:42:51 <Zakim> 4. Next steps and setting time [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:42:51 <Zakim> 5. Table of content for roadmap [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:05 <allanj> zakim, close item 1
17:43:05 <Zakim> agendum 1, Any new issues and  introductions, closed
17:43:06 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:43:06 <Zakim> 2. Review of user goals [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:12 <allanj> zakim, close item 2
17:43:12 <Zakim> agendum 2, Review of user goals, closed
17:43:13 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:43:13 <Zakim> 3. Table of content for gap analysis [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:16 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Roadmap
17:43:17 <NeilMilliken> I have to go but dont let me stop you
17:43:19 <allanj> zakim, close item 3
17:43:19 <Zakim> agendum 3, Table of content for gap analysis, closed
17:43:20 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:43:20 <Zakim> 4. Next steps and setting time [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:29 <allanj> zakim, open item 5
17:43:29 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Table of content for roadmap" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:43:40 <allanj> zakim, close item 4
17:43:40 <Zakim> agendum 4, Next steps and setting time, closed
17:43:41 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
17:43:41 <Zakim> 5. Table of content for roadmap [from Lisa_Seeman]
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17:44:27 <josephoconnor> http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/2014/sessions/index.php/public/presentations/view/260
17:44:59 <allanj> ls: any comments?
17:45:26 <allanj> rs: business needs, mobile? why we are addressing it now, rather than later
17:45:38 <allanj> ... want people interested. could be in the intro
17:45:52 <allanj> ... want to get it in peoples faces
17:46:00 <JohnRochford> I think it would be worthwhile to add mobile
17:46:05 <allanj> jr: the world is going mobile
17:47:07 <allanj> rs: could put after intro, in separate section (business and mobile)
17:47:19 <allanj> ls: 2 sections or just 1
17:47:32 <JohnRochford> I just realized there is another John (JF) on the call, and I have been answering questions directed to him. I apologize.
17:47:52 <allanj> rs: mobile - mean different input methods, or something else.
17:48:11 <josephoconnor> focus on users
17:48:35 <allanj> janina: what is difference between mobile and standard input...if no difference don't call out. just add into issues
17:48:36 <josephoconnor> users not restricted to one environment
17:49:12 <allanj> ls: will add business case after the intro. Business Case and urgency
17:49:33 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:49:39 <allanj> ls: any other comments?
17:49:49 <josephoconnor> Voice output devices now generally have web access in addition to email and IM.
17:49:52 <allanj> rrsagent, make minuses
17:49:52 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minuses', allanj.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:49:57 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
17:49:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:50:08 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
17:50:10 <Zakim> -Katie
17:50:11 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:50:12 <allanj> rrsagent, set logs public
17:50:15 <Zakim> -Suzanne_Taylor
17:50:15 <BarryJohnson> Thank you everyone
17:50:16 <Zakim> -Michel_Fitos
17:50:16 <Zakim> -janina
17:50:17 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:50:34 <josephoconnor> Going to Disneyland.
17:50:43 <Zakim> -Barry_Johnson
17:51:13 <Zakim> -Jim_Allan
17:51:24 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
17:51:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:51:35 <allanj> zakim, please part
17:51:36 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were janina, Jim_Allan, Barry_Johnson, Lisa_Seeman, Katie, +1.804.749.aaaa, DebraRuh, Joseph_O´Conno, Neil_Milliken, Suzanne_Taylor,
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17:51:46 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
17:51:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:52:37 <allanj> meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task-force telecon
17:52:46 <allanj> chair: Lisa Seeman
17:52:49 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
17:52:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:53:06 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/
17:53:12 <allanj> rrsagent, please part
17:53:12 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-actions.rdf :
17:53:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Lisa_Seeman update goals [1]
17:53:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-irc#T17-16-00