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15:55:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
15:55:25 <trackbot> Date: 12 February 2014
15:55:40 <Steven_> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Feb/0006
15:55:53 <Steven_> Steven_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Feb/0006.html
15:55:59 <Steven_> Chair: Steven
15:56:08 <Steven_> Regrets: Uli
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16:00:43 <Zakim> +??P16
16:00:44 <Steven_> zakim, I am ?
16:00:44 <Zakim> +Steven_; got it
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16:01:50 <alain> Zakim, I am [IPcaller]
16:01:52 <Zakim> ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
16:02:21 <Zakim> +ebruchez
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16:05:14 <pfennell> Sorry I'm a bit late, I'll join the call shortly.
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16:08:09 <Steven> Topic: Editorial notes currently in the spec
16:08:09 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Feb/0005.html
16:08:35 <Steven> Steven: I've done 1, and can do 2.
16:09:52 <Steven> ... isn't the Schema note from long ago?
16:11:16 <Steven> Erik: It's true we want feedback in general
16:11:29 <Steven> Steven: Hmm, no the note is quite reent
16:11:36 <Steven> ... I don't recall why.
16:12:09 <Steven> Erik: I suggest removing all of them actually
16:13:03 <Steven> Steven: We need to fix 5
16:13:20 <Steven> Erik: It would be good to have some input on it.
16:15:39 <Steven> ... we have ways to handle that kind of error
16:16:49 <Steven> ... it should be an xforms-expression-error
16:17:03 <Steven> ...n just a matter of sonmewhere saying what happens
16:17:08 <Steven> s/nm/m/
16:17:21 <Steven> \s/..n/.. /
16:17:29 <Steven> s/..n/.. /
16:19:10 <ebruchez> https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_xforms-compute-exception_Event
16:19:48 <Steven> Erik: 10.5.7 The xforms-compute-exception Event
16:20:00 <Steven> ... there are still places where this is dispatched
16:21:21 <Steven> ... the question is if there are ways to get out of the error
16:22:43 <Steven> ... I like the idea of never stopping anympre, except in really bad situations
16:22:50 <Steven> s/mpr/mor/
16:24:01 <Steven> Steven: I agree -errors are preferable to -exceptions, if you can catch the problem
16:25:15 <Steven> Erik: Saving the data before exiting after an error is one use-case
16:25:52 <Steven> Erik: I will think about this offline
16:26:46 <Steven> Steven: And then #7, in section 11.8.4
16:26:53 <Steven> Erik: I don't know why it's here
16:27:35 <Steven> Steven: Agree. Delete it.
16:28:07 <Steven> Topic: Introduction (draft)
16:28:07 <Steven> http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html
16:29:09 <Steven> Steven: I've tried to cut it down and simplify it.
16:29:37 <Steven> ... I would be grateful for comments: what is not mentioned and ought to be, and what is superfluous.
16:30:33 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
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16:30:38 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
16:30:38 <Zakim> -Steven_
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16:30:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven_, [IPcaller], ebruchez, pfennell
16:30:52 <Steven> present+Alain
16:30:58 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
16:30:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-forms-minutes.html Steven
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