17:51:52 RRSAgent has joined #au 17:51:52 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/02/10-au-irc 17:52:00 Zakim, this will be AUWG 17:52:00 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes 17:52:02 Meeting: WAI AU 17:52:17 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2014JanMar/0020.html 17:52:25 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 17:53:09 Regrets: Tim B., Alex L., Alastair C. 17:53:33 jeanne has joined #au 18:01:03 WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has now started 18:01:10 tbabinszki has joined #au 18:01:11 +[IPcaller] 18:01:33 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan 18:01:33 +Jan; got it 18:01:54 +Jeanne 18:02:09 +TomB 18:06:25 +[IPcaller] 18:07:51 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta 18:07:51 +Jutta; got it 18:08:02 Topic: 1. Any comments to pass along re: UAAG 2.0 Last Call? 18:08:07 JT: Any comments? 18:08:27 JT: Suggested topics...http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2014JanMar/0014.html 18:10:47 JR: SC 5.1.1 Comply with WCAG: Relationship with WCAG2 is nuanced as ATAG2's (http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#conf-rel-wcag). Does it need to be? 18:11:19 JS: Sending this in would help UA show they have received broad review 18:11:22 JT: OK 18:11:52 JT: So official comment would be better... 18:12:40 JR: I can come up with wording based on our back and forth with WCAG some time back. 18:14:44 Authoring tools that render the web content being edited (e.g. Word, Dreamweaver, HTML-Kit) 18:14:49 http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-UAAG20-20131107/#def-user-agent 18:15:09 Jutta has joined #au 18:17:02 JT: We have been making the point for many years that the boundary between user agents and authoring tools is arbitrary. 18:18:16 http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#def-comb-ua-authoring-tool 18:20:56 JT: So in review to UAAG what should we say? 18:21:22 JR: Maybe just word of advice to them to provide more detail around the fact that the ATAG-UAAG relationship exists. 18:22:15 JT: OK 18:22:45 Topic: 2. Candidate Recommendation (CR) process update 18:22:59 JS: MC has now added DB layer 18:23:09 JS: So now I can start adding things into DB 18:23:18 JS: MC has 2-3 more weeks of work 18:23:51 JT: How long till test harness can be used? 18:24:05 JS: I will work on putting in the test data. 18:24:20 JS: We have the 7 items that need to be prepared for testers. 18:24:34 JS: Certainly I will have DB populated soon. 18:25:04 JT: OK good news 18:25:27 JT: We put out call for help...has there been response? 18:25:48 JS: I haven't pushed it yet, because I want things to be ready right away. 18:25:55 JT: OK 18:26:05 Topic: 3. Gathering and building the SEVEN "Tools and Resources Needed for Testing ATAG 2.0 Success Criteria:" 18:26:34 scribenick: jeanne 18:27:01 JR: Web Content Accessibility Test Procedure (Level A, AA, AAA): Prob can use the WCAG2 test methodology 18:27:07 JR: WCAG Test Procedure: There is a good chance we will be able to use the WCAG test methodology that time is working on 18:27:17 JR: Platform Accessibility Service Test Procedure: still needs volunteer 18:27:27 s/that time is working/that Tim is working 18:27:33 scribe: Jan 18:28:17 TB: Can do Windows, MacOS, iOS 18:28:48 TB: I would personally start with Windows 18:29:30 Action TB: Prepare Platform Accessibility Service Test Procedure for Windows 7. 18:29:30 'TB' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., tbabins, fboland). 18:31:09 JR: User Agent Accessibility Test Procedure (Level A only): Not necessary unless authoring tool prevents in market tools from being used for preview 18:31:15 JR: So not needed now. 18:31:35 action: tbabins to prepare Platform Accessibility Service Test Procedure for Windows 7. 18:31:35 Created ACTION-390 - Prepare platform accessibility service test procedure for windows 7. [on Tom Babinszki - due 2014-02-17]. 18:31:58 JR: Accessible test content file (Level A, AA, AAA): I will do this. 18:32:18 JR: Non-accessible test content file (Level A, AA, AAA): I will do this. 18:32:34 JR: A selection of separate pieces of content: JR as well 18:32:52 JR: List of "accessible content support features" - this is just a form for tester to fill out - depends on tool. 18:33:40 JS: What Tom is doing can then be used as a model for other platforms. 18:34:05 Topic: 4. The group will cooperate on a full test of a tool to get a sanity check on our testing procedure. 18:35:14 JR: No conflict of interest I don't think. 18:35:24 JS: Someone else can be assigned to evaluate later 18:35:41 Topic: 5. Implementation report update (Jan) 18:35:54 JR: Nothing to report. 18:36:27 JS: On Friday I was pointed to Adobe open-source "Barackets"...I will be looking at this 18:36:51 s/open-source "Barackets"/open-source "Brackets" 18:36:53 JS: Brackets 18:37:33 JT: Sugar labs accessible gaming system prototype 18:38:24 [1] http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/ [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt 18:38:42 http://www.sugarlabs.org 18:39:14 Topic: 6. Re-chartering update 18:39:21 JS: Nothing to report. 18:39:27 Topic: 7. Other issues? 18:40:07 JT: Next meeting Feb 24 due to CDN and US holiday next Monday. 18:40:15 -TomB 18:40:16 -Jeanne 18:40:16 -Jan 19:05:01 disconnecting the lone participant, Jutta, in WAI_AUWG()1:00PM 19:05:02 WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has ended 19:05:02 Attendees were Jan, Jeanne, TomB, Jutta 20:10:05 RRSAgent, make minutes 20:10:05 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/10-au-minutes.html Jan 20:10:12 RRSAgent, set logs public 20:17:24 Zakim has left #au 22:10:10 RRSAgent, bye 22:10:10 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/10-au-actions.rdf : 22:10:10 ACTION: TB to Prepare Platform Accessibility Service Test Procedure for Windows 7. [1] 22:10:10 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/10-au-irc#T18-29-30 22:10:10 ACTION: tbabins to prepare Platform Accessibility Service Test Procedure for Windows 7. [2] 22:10:10 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/10-au-irc#T18-31-35